RE:AArushi
by rajeev krishnan on Jun 25, 2008 12:46 PM Permalink
As per the current survey India is the murder capital of the world with 3 murders / hours.
All this is sheer madness ! There are hundreds of aarushi that die everyday ! Only if media brings it to the attention of the ppl , something happens, else all of it goes under the carpet without anything !
It seems Talwar is scared of Narco test as he knows his secrets will be out of the bag,as it is also recorded for further investigations.If Telgi could be administered the drug for Narco analysis test even can it be done on Talwar.He should surely know that all the route for his escape has ended so that he will surely come out with truth if he is innocent or a conspirator for the crime each and single detail.
RE:RE:Narco test can bring out the truth,and end this long drama by some..........
by AnakotKalathil rajarajan on Jun 23, 2008 04:06 PM Permalink
Does anyone know what Dr. Talwar is saying without narco test about the night? It appears to me that everyone has taken that for granted that he slept through - or so he said!
RE:Narco test can bring out the truth,and end this long drama by some..........
by Punyakumar on Jun 24, 2008 01:48 PM Permalink
It looks like CBI is giving time for Talwar to come out of guilt and then conduct narco analysis. Then only they can tell, he is innocent. By the time they decide to do this test on him, he will be touch enough to evade all questions. It is a known fact that a mentally tough person will not spill out anything during narco analysis.
RE:Narco test can bring out the truth,and end this long drama by some..........
by sambit mohanty on Jun 23, 2008 01:58 PM Permalink
Is there anything progress in this case? Or CBI is just moving around the fake message given by Krishna.
RE:Narco test can bring out the truth,and end this long drama by some..........
by dakshin on Jun 24, 2008 09:28 AM Permalink
Dr. Talwar is not put to narco analysis. His test was psycho analysis. This raises many questions. Why is Dr. Talwar shielded from Narco Analysis. Narco test on Krishna was done in a haste. The investigating officer who mentioned nothing came out during narco test was also transferred. This is pointing out to something being done to cook up a story. The manner in which CBI took up the case also suggests, there may be some people in CBI who can shield Dr. Talwar. When Scarlet' murder was referred to CBI, CBI did not take up the case immediately mentioning technical problems. Whereas in this case they jumped and took up the case.
the headline says..Narco test was done n talwar..whereas the news reads as polygraph test...this is very misleading as both are different tests altogether..! rediff better improve its reporting standards..pathetic this!
If Rajesh Talwar is able to escape just shrugging off "I don't know, I was sleeping" without concrete endorsements to that effect by the investigating agencies, it will embolden many others to follow these methods to eliminate inconvenient people who can be patients, family members or friends using hi-tech melodrama and misleading tactics.
The case needs deeper investigation as vital proofs are systematically destroyed, which can never happen in impulsive muders.
Let the CBI convince the society and nation, which is shocked and outraged as to who is the actual killer and conspirator and who are not. This is more than a crime--perhaps worse than terrorists attack and a grave threat to humanity and civilization.
RE:Society is Shocked-they need reassurance
by Tommy Cat on Jun 21, 2008 06:55 PM Permalink
Very well said my dear friend....these sophisticated family murders will become part and parcel of middle class India......nething can hppen over property matters...borther may eliminate brother for property...father may eliminate son ofr property and vice versa....son in law may be eliminated for property and vice versa....
You are very right...the police and the CBI need to make a case out of this family murder...even if Talwar is not the murderer, he is part of the plot to Kill Aarushi...an innocent girl!!
RE:Society is Shocked-they need reassurance
by Vijaya Prabha on Jun 24, 2008 01:43 PM Permalink
You are right. This is a very well planned and executed murder. There are strong indicators to believe actual hand behind these murders is an educated man. If Krishna or any other servant had committed these murders, they would not have stayed in the locality. It is a common sense - there was no need for these people to stay in the places knowing that they will be caught. Even after initial questioning and prior to their arrest they continued to stay in the place they are staying. Rajesh Talwar's behaviour is very peculiar. If the news has to believed. Initial refusal of Rajesh Talwar to identiy Hemaraj speak volumes. Probably it was the guilt that made him to behave that way. How did they accept the PM report that had chronological error. It is hard to believe, Talwars are not involved.
RE:Society is Shocked-they need reassurance
by sweeto t on Jun 24, 2008 07:47 PM Permalink
You said it Vijaya Prabha all these while i was wondering how a post mortem report can be goofed up and the police and the CBI not investigating on this point.
If Krishna is done that (as what CBI want to bring to the people which is a crap) then how can that poor chap can influence the post mprtem.
How can Krishna be a murderer??
The murder is well planned and have done every bit to evade the clues bsides every vital information is distorted.
Can a compounder do that???? What is the motive??? Is that lust? If so then how can such a well planned murder can be done???
Its definitly an educated and influential persons act.
Why CBI is all ready to grill Krishna??
Why all the servents are caught and questioned???
Why Talwar family didn't inform the police the very minute they saw their daughters body in blood??
Why Ms. Talwar's and Mr. Talwars statement differ when questioned "who saw the arushis body first?"
Why there is an error in post mortem report??
Does krishna can influence the report?? does he have that financial power and influence ??
Why CBI are not touching these topics?? Why they are not answering these questions??
How can CBi say that because of ac's noice Talwar family couldn't here anything while they were sleeping/ Is that a silly statement made by CBI ??
RE:Society is Shocked-they need reassurance
by Punyakumar on Jun 25, 2008 10:03 AM Permalink
Inconsistency in Krishna's statement is taken seriously where as inconsistencies in Dr. and Mrs. Talwar' statement are not taken so seriously. No one with common sense will clean up crime site, this family has cleaned the house thoroughly - why were they in such a hurry.
RE:Society is Shocked-they need reassurance
by Dominic Manuel on Jun 25, 2008 02:17 PM Permalink
There is systematic destruction of evidence at every possible level. This cannot happen with servants. The murder weapon is missing, the cell phones are missing, pictures on camera are missing, cloth worn by killers are missing, clear finger prints are missing, the PM report is tampered with. Can an uneducated person think in all directions like this. Even if he thinks in all these direction the execution will be very difficult. The pattern of injuries on both the victims are similar - it is highly impossible for an uneducated and unplanned killer to cause such injuries. Killing takes time, collection of all objects that can serve as witness takes time too. The killers have not definitely gone out (if there was any killer from outside) with blood soaked hands and cloth. He/they have taken time to hide Hemaraj's body using a cooler cover, locked up the terrace from inside. They have cleaned the floor (no signs of blood stained foot mark or foot wear mark anywhere), they have washed themselves. Why will an outside killer take so much of time? He will be afraid of his own life and will flee the site of crime once his job is done. It is highly impossible to cause similar wounds on both the victims. His stabbing will be random. If killer is an outsider he will secure his life first by latching Dr. and Mrs. Talwar's room first. What is the need for him to hide Hemaraj's body? He would have killed him and gone. In a normal state it is impossible to kill one person without
RE:Society is Shocked-they need reassurance
by sweeto t on Jun 25, 2008 08:31 PM Permalink
Have you seen news channel these days Dominic?? Few days before they were taking footage of Arushis murder investigation minute by minute.
Now you see no channel is talking of it now. Can CBI putting pressure on media going via IB ministry??
Should not forget that because of medias constant probing the case is known to a vast majority of people else it by now must have gone in to oblivion.
History will repeat.With various charades and Narcotic drama authors of crime will go scot free and their paid staff will get the stick.We must not forget Pandher of Nithari and the out of the way efforts of CBI to give him a clean chit.
The biggest question : WHO CLOSED THE TERRACE DOOR ON THAT FATEFUL NIGHT FROM INSIDE THE HOUSE?? It cannot have been one of the murderers cos they would have escaped via the terrace route only....so it has to be Talwar....did he not see Hemraj's body lying??
RE:Let the truth come out!!
by dakshin on Jun 25, 2008 11:18 AM Permalink
The killer knows each and everything in Talwar residence. He knows where to find cooler cover, he kwows where locks and keys are, he knows the ac is on. If a killer knows everything in detail he cannot be an outsider. If an outsider knows each and everything in detail, that suggests Dr. Talwar's family as an abnormal family. No one will allow servants to party. If the reports are true and servants had party and if the partying was a for the first time the partcipants of that party would be afraid to move around in the house.
In truth only Narco test has not been conducted on Dr.Talwar and only polygraph test is done !The Narco test till date has not been done on Dr.Talwar on one pretext or other !It is said that Dr.Talwar is Asthama patient and Narco test is not good for Asthamatic patient as it may endanger them !But it is forgetten by Police that it had carried Narco Test Telgi who is also Asthama patient !Narco test must be done on Dr.Talwar to ascertain truth !
RE:Only polygraph test is conducted on Dr .Talwar !And not Narco Test!
by Vismay on Jun 25, 2008 01:56 PM Permalink
Postponing or delaying of Narco test on Dr. Talwar or even not considering him for Narco test gives room for suspicion. What are they waiting for?
