Let there be a general public consensus on the deal. India is not property of a few crazy Chinese Commies Agents and after the consensus result all commies should be thrown to the other side of border in China. Let them be slaves of Hu Jintao
RE:Consensus
by amit gupta on Jun 19, 2008 04:13 PM Permalink
Listen u BJP agent. If you will come to power u will sign this off and show the country how great u r. BJP doesn't have any ideology of its own, someone else cook the food and BJP relishes on it. That is the BJP policy in totto.
The BJP cannot win the next election. They will get thrashed in Rajasthan and MP> I am pro-Indian. I donot like people selling the nation!!. The deal we got is worse than what China got. Why?
1. Guaranteed supply of uranium irrespective of testing. The Aussies for example have no intention of supplying us Uranium at all. Where will be get Uranium from, Niger?
RE:Consensus
by Sudhir Kant Dhingra on Jun 19, 2008 04:26 PM Permalink
Chinese dont have a better deal with US, to set the facts straight, we are get the reprocessing rights which Chinese dont have. This is best deal for us, we need not get the tech. or the fuel from US, once the deal is signed - we can get these from any of the 45 NSG countries like France, Russia etc. They are willing to do the commercial transactions with us. What we need to understand is - the way NSG is structured. Without US approval first, any new country wont be able to commercially deal in civil nuclear fuel and tech with the NSG countries. Lets us realize that that is how NSG is structured. We need to be smart and then deal with any country that we choose to. History alone will tell that what Left did was wrong. I am surprised why BJP is not supporting. BJP should rise above its own desire to sign the deal and think in India's interest and support the current govt. to get this deal through. We shouldnt waste time and sign it now. I would say that UPA govt. should act bold and get a voting done in the parliament on N-deal and lets record official stances of our political parties so that history can judge for itself what an honest prime minister did.Even if the parliament disapproves, still the govt. should go and sign the deal because as per the constitution , the govt. does not need parliament's go ahead for signing bi-lateral agreements.
RE:Consensus
by BRIJ MIMANI on Jun 19, 2008 05:14 PM Permalink
Dear Mr Dhingra. Thanks for your comment and suggestion. I would like to raise 2 questions. Had at any given point of time, congress had asked the BJP to come on board for nuclear deal. Pls refer to the meeting of the some amrican person who visited to advani and rajnath. Overthrowing the parmiliament for getting the work done would be a good precedent (if at all done) though we do not need the ratification of the parliament.
If India pulls out of the deal now, it will have zero credibility....in all future deals, foreigners will ask "whats the guarantee that your left parties wont kill the deal"?
What a silly hypothesis. Legislative processes will have to be followed and they are being. Both the BJP and the left oppose the deal. That is a majority of MPs.
Can you explain why your stupid congress Govt is yet to help 28 B worth of power projects off the ground for the last 3 years? If they cannot get basic projects to be launched who will allow them to set up nuclear plants?
But,who are you...???How did you sniff out this development that CIA and China is so intrested to control India???Where did you get the information from??? Man,stop your imagination,and stand for doing somethings which are atleast correct. Even though many of us does't like the party called Congress...we do respect the primeminister,who is the most eligible man any country has seen in the executive post.Start supporting him...hes there for a cause...the cause of doing some good things.
The PM is pro-American. Why else did he remove Mani Shankar aiyar as Petroleum minister. During Mani Aiyar's time, ONGC videsh was aggressively gathering oil wells. Now, who was Mani Aiyar replaced by? Murli Deora. Murli deora was the head of the Indo-US parliamenterians association or something and often regarded as extremely pro-American
RE:CIA vs Chinese
by arp on Jun 19, 2008 04:07 PM Permalink
No one has guts to control India.But one thing is clear in this nuke deal that both cogi and cummies are trying to get meximum milage from it.It seems that both parties reached on mutual understanding on this issue.Cong. will pass this deal,left will withdraw support and both parties will try to cash it.Cummies will say we opposed the deal and cong. will try to cash sympathy in coming loksabha election.All are power hunger.
Left by Chandra SK on Jun 19, 2008 03:53 PM Permalink | Hide replies
I donot agree with a single thing as far as the left is concerned but I am very excited with their stance on the nuclear deal. This deal is not what the Chinese have got from the Yanks and I donot see any reason why we should accept this deal. This whole thing about the Yanks not negotiating is crap. The only desperation is by Manmohan wanting to leave a stamp before he is thrown out as the PM. The BJP's stance is correct in this instance. The current MM Singh Govt will sell the nation if required.
RE:LEFT
by Vinod Pandey on Jun 19, 2008 04:07 PM Permalink
Left parties are stooges (tattoos) of China. They are worried about India's proximity to USA and China is tacitly encouraging them to sabotage the deal. Only USA and India combindly can check the ever growing imperialistic designs of China. Let both the countries come together otherwise China will grab Arunachal P and Sikkim and Indian Marxists will celebrate the Chinese victory in their own way. Leftists are curse for India and need to be checked by the people themselves otherwise it would be too late to mend.
I donot know about China but I sure know that we should trust no country. The yanks see us a major future threat and therefore the nuclear deal is a major leverage against us. Why dont they give us the same deal as they gave the Chinese?
RE:Commendable behaviour by the left
by Navin T on Jun 19, 2008 03:51 PM Permalink
Mona Shah is nothing but Anom Hahs or benami account of Vrinda Karat.
RE:Commendable behaviour by the left
by Mona Shah on Jun 19, 2008 03:56 PM Permalink
Truth is bitter my friends. No point in abusing. Fact is comrades r the most trustworthy persons of all political parties of india apart from congress.
RE:Commendable behaviour by the left
by Sriram Rags on Jun 19, 2008 03:59 PM Permalink
Beneficial to the sovereignity of India does also means opposing the claims of China with regards to Sikkim, Arunachal Pradesh and Kashmir. Well in reality its not the case.
RE:Commendable behaviour by the left
by Anup on Jun 19, 2008 03:57 PM Permalink
I somehow find her always on the wrong side and with wrong thoughts. She is a pessimist and thats why always sides with communists......They cant do any good and she cant think any good.
RE:RE:Commendable behaviour by the left
by popat laal on Jun 19, 2008 03:53 PM Permalink
there goes monajee.. again talking about the paradox "communism and prosperous india..
Left is also trying to look in to the draft because they want to show to their bosses in china,one good thing is that congress has not given the draft to yhem.
The foolish Bongs and Mallus are voting these Commies without realizing that their game plan is to weaken India by scuttling the N-deal.They need to be blamed for this unfortunate fiasco of N-deal with US.
RE:Bongs and Mallus should be blamed for N-fiasco
by sokuni mama on Jun 19, 2008 03:51 PM Permalink
Bongs and Mallus should be blamed for N-fiasco by Navin T on Jun 19, 2008 03:42 PM Permalink | Hide replies
The foolish Bongs and Mallus are voting these Commies without realizing that their game plan is to weaken India by scuttling the N-deal.They need to be blamed for this unfortunate fiasco of N-deal with US.
RE:Bongs and Mallus should be blamed for N-fiasco
by Faltoo Comments on Jun 19, 2008 04:06 PM Permalink
Being a bong, I agree with you Mr Navin T. Yes we are dumb to vote for leftist parties when better alternatives are available in the name of BJP, BSP, SP, RJD, JD, JDS, Congress, and innumerable others. See Mr Navin T, how samrt you and your brothers are to vote for Mayawati so that she can beautify the State with aesthetically built statues of her's and her dead mentor (so what if the smart guys pay for this beautification). Or for that matter Laluji or Rabri Devi. Undoubtedly a better choice over the well educated, selfless breed of commies who are passionate about the ideology. Or how about the Modis, so what if that means burning of thousands of innocent people. Or brining some Gowda clan into power so that they can misrule generation after generation. Or a Jayalalitha so that she can grab half the preoperty of the state. Yes Mr Navin T, we are not so smart to make those kind of right decisions.
RE:Bongs and Mallus should be blamed for N-fiasco
by Tamal Basu on Jun 19, 2008 04:02 PM Permalink
My Dear Navin T, in your overzealousness, you forgot that more than 50% Bongs vote against commies. It is the division created by by dividing the electorate in different parties with candid support of congress that they are coming to power in last 10 years. And mallus change their government every 10 years. Neverthless, CPM in west bengal had done commendle job in their first 10 years by land reform by which a large no of peasants own land, whatever small it may be and it is sailing through the eletion even after 15 years due to this.At least bongs are devoid of feudal mentality as practiced widely in cow belt of North india like honour killing, torture on lower castes, glorifying sati etc etc., all close to heart of BJP.
