Do messages really need to be marked as abused- for them to be removed from discussion board.
Why can irrelevant messages be removed moderator only. (if irrelevant messages constitute an abuse)
Rediff discussion boards has become mockery, Whatever may be the news topic, people write whatever they feel and get through. I see mostly all rubbish; don't feel reading . Can moderators be proactive and more strict about this. And any way of communicating with moderators? Any info on what is expected decorum here on rediff discussion boards?
RE:TO- moderator.
by Money tvs on Jun 18, 2008 11:40 AM Permalink
It will be a huge task for the moderators to go through all the messages. when someone reports a message, the moderators will only check those messages.
RE:TO- moderator.
by shaker on Jun 18, 2008 11:46 AM Permalink
Read carefully Mr.googlinglife or whatever, what others write is non of your business, keep reading and if possible chip in and please bypass what you do not like. No one is forcing anything on you. Its your problem what you read and how you react, if possible as I said earlier do post otherwise leave the forum.
RE:VALMIKI
by JGN on Jun 18, 2008 11:14 AM Permalink
Mr.samuel, you are so eloquent on Ramayana. Pl tell me which Stanza is considered at the "most important" one in Ramayana. Give straight answer. Don't beat about the bush.
RE:VALMIKI
by shaker on Jun 18, 2008 11:14 AM Permalink
What a pity isn't it Sameul I agree with you, its the same as what you are till yesterday you were or rather your anscestors were believing everything what was told in Ramayana and today it is Jesus I guess what is it for to ommoorrow. Who knows todays truth is to ommorrow's false and today's false might the truth the day after. Well good luck Samuel Keep it up. Do hope that you keep doing this even after adopting another religion may be who know if not you your predecessor.
RE:RE:VALMIKI
by JGN on Jun 18, 2008 11:16 AM Permalink
According to the likes of Mr. Samuel, a dead jew on a stick is the saviour of whole mankind and he holding all the entry tickets to heaven!
RE:VALMIKI
by Nanchil on Jun 18, 2008 11:21 AM Permalink
According to the likes of JGN the religion (in his language: culture) that has salient features like 'mulakaram' and 'sambandam' is the greatest one.
RE:RE:VALMIKI
by JGN on Jun 18, 2008 11:30 AM Permalink
No, Nanchil, there was a report in yesterday's Indian Express about Yohannan amassing wealth of over Rs. One thousand crores. That is the real spirituality. And of course the sins of all Christians have been washed away in the blood of Jesus over 2000 years abck. So go ahead and commit as much sin as possible.
Visit the web of Christian Aggression to know more about the "noble" works of Keralite Christians!
RE:VALMIKI
by micky on Jun 18, 2008 11:21 AM Permalink
@SAMUEL YOU CHANT RAM NAAM JUST 10 MINS DAILY IN THE MORNING HOURS FOR JUST 3 MONTHS. SEE THE DIFFERENCE IN YOUR LIFE. THEN YOU YOURSELF WILL COME TO KNOW RAMA WAS JUST HUMAN BEING OR GODS INCARNATION IN HUMAN FORM. JUST LEARN FROM YOUR OWN EXPERIENCE.
RE:CASTE SYSTEM
by JGN on Jun 18, 2008 10:57 AM Permalink
Mr.sridhar gorantla, no amount of justification is sufficient enough. Caste system is an obxnious practice and the same needs to be eliminated. Of course Caste system existed/still exists in Islam and Christianity and in some other countries also.
Change is the only thing constant. Change with the times or time will change you. The problem in Islamic society is due to their obsession with the culture of 7th century Arabia. The teachings of Muhammed was meant for the inhabitants of 7th century Arabia and the same cannot be followed in 21st century anwhere in the world (even in Saudi). Our muslim friends have to realize this truth and they should not try to divide the world into "believers" and non-beleivers".
RE:CASTE SYSTEM
by shaker on Jun 18, 2008 11:18 AM Permalink
Mr. Sridhar caste system will never die out as long as the world is. It will be there in some form or other, its in the eyes of the person, so do not blame the caste system. Its there and will be here. Just how you put into operation the system is what matters.
RE:RE:RE:MUSLIM
by secret on Jun 18, 2008 10:22 AM Permalink
watch the mallu movie 'Veluttha Catharina' - meaning 'white catherina' - basically a converted Dalit christian whose skin color is white..!!
it deals very subltey about the casteism. my heart goes out to Dalits...who have been marginalized by caste and socio-economic parametes...but they shouldn't try to find answers by converting....they like the rest of humanity are to be respected and accepted for what they are....
RE:RE:RE:MUSLIM
by JGN on Jun 18, 2008 10:18 AM Permalink
Mr. Samuel, have you hard of "Syrian Christians" of Kerala who claim to be converted brahmins and look at other sects with contempt? The would not give their girls in marriage to any other sects of christianity in Kerala (there are more than 30 sects in a small state like Kerala itself).
Have you heard names like "Chacko Pulayan" and Orotha (Rose) Pulayi? Have you heard of "Latin Catholics" (converted fisher folks who are considered as dalits?)? Have you heard ofthe fights between "Bawa" and "Metran"? Whom are you trying to fool?
RE:RE:MUSLIM
by JGN on Jun 18, 2008 10:12 AM Permalink
Not only in India but the world over the Christians practice racism. Has there been even a single "black" Pope in all these years? Pl visit the web of "Dalit Voice" to understand the supression of Dalit Christians. There are even separate burial grounds for Dalit Christians.
Atleast the crematoriums owned by the local governments do not discriminate between upper castes and lower castes in hinduism!
RE:RE:RE:MUSLIM
by Nanchil on Jun 18, 2008 11:44 AM Permalink
Stone pieces have no souls. It is an insult for humans, most intelligent creatures in the world to bow down before stone pieces. But Jesus is God who won death. Even if you do not believe Jesus as God, at least He is a man as per your way of thinking. FYI worshipping statues of Mary or any other person is prohibited in christianity and those who practice idol-worship are ignorants.
RE:RE:RE:MUSLIM
by JGN on Jun 18, 2008 11:38 AM Permalink
Nanchil, what is the difference between "bowing down before stone pieces just like a savage" and worshipping the statue of a dead jew on a cross? Do you not worhsip the statues of Mother Mary, various Saints, etc? What you are doing is "pot calling kettle black"
RE:RE:RE:MUSLIM
by secret on Jun 18, 2008 10:16 AM Permalink
precisely...the lies and propaganda about equality by Christiands is already out...down south there are hoards of Dalits converting back to Hinduism after burning their fingers with Church..
also the lie about caste is only a Hindu thing is also invalidated...IF anything Muslims and Christians are equally casteist..not to forget the racist angle as you rightly point out
RE:RE:MUSLIM
by shaker on Jun 18, 2008 11:21 AM Permalink
Samuel come on do not cheat yourself, there is caste system in all community and christianty is not an exemption. I too pity your anscestors for what ever reason they got converted. If you can fight suppression I would rather die.
RE:infinity
by JGN on Jun 18, 2008 09:54 AM Permalink
Yesterday's Indian Express has reported that Mr. Yohannan (self-styled Bishop) has amassed wealth in excess of Rs. 1000 crores and his business of spirituality is still flourishing. Same with the spiritual business of the likes of Mata Amritanandamayi, Sri Sri Ravi Shandkar, various Thangals, etc. That is called infinity or un-ending business of selling spirituality.
RE:RE:infinity
by Money tvs on Jun 18, 2008 11:56 AM Permalink
leave alone yohanan, there is an evangelist in andhra pradesh called Paul. who behaves as if he was born and brought up in USA. He himself admitted that he owns a private jet and hundreds of crores of rupees
There are many countries on planet earth, each with different rulers and different sets of rules and regulations. Similarly there could be many parts to heaven and hell. The Gods or their accredited agents many be waiting at the gate of heaven/hell (some sort of no-man's land) to catch hold of the "souls" and push them into the heaven or hell. There are more than 2000 religions the world over (some of them have hundreds of sects), each having its own god/gods.. Then why one should believe that there is only one God or Supreme Creator???????????
Chapman Cohen, in his "Theism or Atheism," clearly states: "We know that man does not discover God, he invents him, and an invention is properly discarded when a better instrument is forthcoming. To-day, the hypothesis of God stands in just the same relation to the better life of to-day as the fire drill of the savage does to the modern method of obtaining a light. The belief in God may continue awhile in virtue of the lack of intelligence of some, of the carelessness of others, and of the conservative character of the mass. But no amount of apologizing can make up for the absence of genuine knowledge, nor can the flow of the finest eloquence do aught but clothe in regal raiment the body of a corpse."
Religion arose as a means of explanation of natural phenomena at a time when no other explanation of the origin of natural phenomena had been ascertained. God is always what Spinoza called it, "the asylum of ignorance. “When causes are unknown, God is brought forward; when causes are known, God retires into the background. In an age of ignorance, God is active; in an age of science, he is impotent. History attests this fact.
RE:Chapman Cohen on God
by Virgo on Jun 18, 2008 10:04 AM Permalink
That's it! Religion is the creation of man. Only fools will believe that their religion is the very word of God. What is surprising is that in this 21st century of scientific enlightenment, even educated people believe that their religion is directly from God!
Cultists such as Branch Davidians, Jonestowners, Heaven's Gate and so on believe that their leader is/was a prophet and their teachings came directly from God's inspiration. If these characters were there in there 1400 years ago, there will now be millions of their followers all over the earth claiming their "religion" is the only true religion directly from God!
I hope every dogmatic religionists, especially the Muslims, think about it and contemplate on it. One cannot logically claim that some old book was written by God or his direct agent. That is utterly foolish. Once we accept religions are man-made, the dogmatism will immediately vanish.
RE:RE:Chapman Cohen on God
by shaker on Jun 18, 2008 11:35 AM Permalink
Salahudeen, first can you challenge whether you great grandmother was raped or not. Do not be sure of anything you do not know your own identity and you talk of things which happened long before,that too which you have adopted just recently by sheer misfortune.
RE:Chapman Cohen on God
by salahu deen on Jun 18, 2008 11:03 AM Permalink
If you can challenge any of the things written in the Holy Quran, then you are right. But from the day it revealed, no body on earth could challenge it and this is the magic of Quran. If you have any doubt, please try to understand what is written in Quran(At least the 1st and 2nd Chapters). There are translations of Quran availble in almost all the languages. So please try to understand what actually Quran is and the true ISLAM. And also do not think that whatever all muslims do is Islam.
RE:RE:Chapman Cohen on God
by JGN on Jun 18, 2008 11:24 AM Permalink
These are some of the verses from The Glorious Quran. Is there any thing that is to be challenged or magical in these?
"Spend your wealth for the cause of Allah." 2:195
Those who fail in their duty to Allah are proud and sinful. They will all go to hell. 2:206
War is ordained by Allah, and all Muslims must be willing to fight, whether they like it or not. 2:216
Those who die in their disbelief will burn forever in the Fire. 2:217
Those who marry unbelievers will burn in the Fire. 2:221
The disbelievers, they are the wrong-doers. 2:254
Disbelievers worship false gods. The will burn forever in the Fire. 2:257
Allah does not guide disbelievers. 2:264
"Those who swallow usury ... are rightful owners of the Fire." 2:275
"Give us victory over the disbelieving folk." 2:286
RE:Chapman Cohen on God
by JGN on Jun 18, 2008 11:21 AM Permalink
Mr.salahu deen, I have read two versions (English translations) of The Quran and know for sure what its contents are. There are any number of contradictins, absurdities, hatred, etc in the same. As a beliver you might not have observed the same. Pl search for The Skpetics Annotated Bible. It has category-wise verses like Absurdities, Contradictions, Hatred, Good-stuff, etcfrom The Bible, The Quran and The Book of Mormon. Pl read the same and understand for yourself. Anythng that would be written today would a thousand times better than The Quran. Even the teachings of Gautama the Buddha (pre-dates Quran by more than 900 years) are much better than the principles of any other religion in the world. The buddhists think of the well being of all living things (not only humanbeings).
