RE:Did Minority in Kashmir, Bangladesh, Pakistan burnt a train full with Muslims returning from a pilgrimage?
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Jun 17, 2008 09:31 PM Permalink
It will never happen. But the opposite do takes place. WHY ITS SO ?
RE:Did Minority in Kashmir, Bangladesh, Pakistan burnt a train full with Muslims returning from a pilgrimage?
by Wahaj Faridy on Jun 17, 2008 09:37 PM Permalink
Justice Banerjee report proved Muslim mob did not burn the train.
RE:Did Minority in Kashmir, Bangladesh, Pakistan burnt a train full with Muslims returning from a pilgrimage?
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Jun 17, 2008 09:40 PM Permalink
HIS REPORT IS DEFUNCT. HIGH COURT HAS STOPPED THAT FROM BEING FILED OR ACTION TO BE TAKEN.
RE:Did Minority in Kashmir, Bangladesh, Pakistan burnt a train full with Muslims returning from a pilgrimage?
by mighty on Jun 17, 2008 09:37 PM Permalink
Even if it happens they wont leave any trace of them.And they call it bravery.
RE:Muslims show little/no remorse for Hindus/Sikhs/Buddhists of Kashmir, Pakistan, Bangladesh
by Wahaj Faridy on Jun 17, 2008 09:32 PM Permalink
Sikhs live freely, and peacefully in Kashmir - land of Quran loving people. They rejected Jagmohan's communal politics and never faced any trouble in highly troubled Kashmir all along in last 20 years.
Budhists and Hindus fell pray to BJP's communal games, and paying the price of folly of believing in him.
Muslims of Kashmir did not harm them (death of 10 persons is not as significant), Jagmohan did.
RE:Muslims show little/no remorse for Hindus/Sikhs/Buddhists of Kashmir, Pakistan, Bangladesh
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Jun 17, 2008 09:34 PM Permalink
Sikhs were born in the first place because of islamic atricities. Two of their gurus were slaughtered by Mughals.
Abdali desecrated Golden temple, filled it with Cow's blood.
RE:Muslims show little/no remorse for Hindus/Sikhs/Buddhists of Kashmir, Pakistan, Bangladesh
by Kris iyer on Jun 17, 2008 10:07 PM Permalink
Faridy,
Just prior to ex-President Clinton's visit to New Delhi and Kashmir, about 20 Sikhs were shot dead by Kashmiri-Pak militants. You can verify from Indian and International newspapers.
You know that muslims fear the Sikhs, because they will retaliate with greater militancy than the muslims - as was the case in 1947-49.
With increases in fundamentalist Islam, there is a possibility that you will find similar militancy amongst Hindu groups. It may take time but will happen.
Muslims like you are playing into the hands of right-wing hindu parties by your skewed logic for terrorism. Do you want us to beleive that even the Lal Masjid episode, assassination of Ms. Benazir Bhutto, etc were also the handiwork of the "Sanghies"? Post-Godhra was the only incident in Independent India where the hindus used more than enough force (I am not justifying the same) and that should be an eye opener for all. Nobody is willing to tolerate your belligerance in the name of religion anywhere in the world. The Quran is inherently violent. You cannot convert the majority in India in 21st century by terrorising them. India has the third largest army in the world and there is no way any one can challenge the might of the Indian State. The terrorists can at the most harm some innocent citizens (and that is precisely their motive).
RE:@ Wahaj Faridy
by JGN on Jun 17, 2008 09:25 PM Permalink
At least we should make them understand the reality.
The muslims the world over think that the failure to establish an Islamic State the world is as an "Utopia dalayed" but they do not realize what is the condition in the Islamic countries. The condition in all Islamic countries except for a few oil rich West Asian countries and Malaysia is really pathetic.
Some Indian muslims show loyalty to Pakistan without even realizing that India has the second largest muslim population (first being Indonesia) and it is in their own interest to live in harmony with other sections of the society.
RE:@ Wahaj Faridy
by drax on Jun 17, 2008 09:25 PM Permalink
Of course you will conveniently forget the massacre of Hindu fishermen in Kerala and Coimbatore blasts by Madani and Co. in TN. These are just a sample of course.
RE:@ Wahaj Faridy
by drax on Jun 17, 2008 09:39 PM Permalink
I am unable to post the link. Just google 'Marad massacre'. An dyou will get plenty of links to expose your brainlessness or plain hypocrisy.
RE:@ Wahaj Faridy
by Dinesh on Jun 17, 2008 11:24 PM Permalink
Even in Mangalore there were comunal disturbances. Most of them were started by eve teasings. The problem starts when a muslim eve teaser is handed over to police immediately big mob will come and start throwing stones. If Hindus do not react, does it mean peaceful coexistence?
RE:RE:@ Wahaj Faridy
by JGN on Jun 17, 2008 09:29 PM Permalink
Yes, I had visited Kerala recently. I was surprized to see most of the muslim women wearing "burqua" even in villages and small towns. About 30 years back we could not see even a single muslim women wearing the black veil and even in Cities like Calicut, it was difficult to find more than a handful of Burqua clad women (mostly belonging to the priestly class called "Thangal"). The condition in TN is also not much different. I had been to TN also about six months back.
RE:@ Wahaj Faridy
by sri on Jun 17, 2008 09:34 PM Permalink
Wahaj, Before the BJP, the Hindus were caught between the islamists and the secularists of the congress and CPI types and were without equal rights or privileges. The muslims dont like it now because they cannot have it their way as much as before. Instead of blaming the Hindus, why dont you reform your community and make them secular and tolerant. It is not just the Hindus who are saying that the muslims are fundamentalists and intolerant and incapable of cahabiting with others. The whole world now knows about them and has seen their true violent side as well. The South is peaceful only because South Indians tend to be less reactive not because the provocations from the muslims are absent - Hyderabad and kerala are examples of how Hindus have just tolerated it wihout even a whimper. Look at kerala - it is in the grip of the most fundamentalist, the most intolerant muslims anywhere. Kerala is becoming an islamic state and the Hindus are just quietly watching it. The Kerala Hindus are fools who think that the muslims also respect secularism and the live-and-let-live doctrine that they themselves adhere to. When the situation becomes worse and street battles take over it will be too late! The communists, of course will never learn.
RE:@ Wahaj Faridy
by Kris iyer on Jun 17, 2008 09:46 PM Permalink
Wahaj Faridy,
I do realise that muslims worry about the RSS and Bajrang Dal and so on. But muslim view of the BJP need not be at the same level. I know that the BJP leaders lost control of the mob in Ayodhya. Most Indians are sorry about that and have said so to their muslim friends many times.
I hope, you will think about the sequence of events - history, in other words, chronologically.
1) The 1920 Khilafat killings of Hindus has to be the first major "pogram" of the 20th century. Estimates vary but at least 20,000 - 40,000 Hindus were killed in Kerala and Bengal by returning Hajis upset over the abolition of Khilafa.
2) Despite the horrible experience of "Non-muslims" in the areas that became Pakistan,[At least 500,000 non-muslims killed, 29,000 Hindu Sikh women kidnapped and kept ] the "Sanghis" won no parliamentary seats or even MLA seats for many, many years. The Hindus wanted to settle down in peace with the muslims who stayed back in India. No "ethnic cleansing" was attempted.
3) After so many decades of "secularism" and Congress, Bollywood and "The Hindu" newspaper showing muslims in the best possible light, muslim militancy took an ugly turn, first in Kashmir and then spread to some Indian cities.
4) The ISI of Pakistan and LeT have been relentless in fanning militancy amongst Indian muslims. SIMI obliged them.
5) Even without the BJP in the south, nearly 8 years ago, a baazaar bomb in Coimbatore killed about 70 or so and maimed many more.
RE:JUSTICE BANARJEE - SC JUSTICE OR LALOO STOOGE
by drax on Jun 17, 2008 09:17 PM Permalink
HAHAHAHHA Idiot, your IQ level only accepts such reports and also the report which accuses Bush of masterminding 9/11.
RE:JUSTICE BANARJEE - SC JUSTICE OR LALOO STOOGE
by PKN on Jun 17, 2008 09:43 PM Permalink
Wahaj Faridy, Go ahead and live in self denial. Yes the Sanghis self immolated themselves with in the train! I am going to have a hearty laugh and there is no reason for you to be denied that privilege. So use this:-
1. The Babri Majid was pulled down by a group of Jehadis so that communal riots would help them recruit more people
2. Bilkis Bano was raped by SIMI activists who hoped that it would create a wave of sympathy for them among the Muslims.
3. The best Bakery was burnt down by the same Jehadi people who planned to burn the train in Godhra. But since the Sanghis did it themselves they used the petrol stored to burn down Best Bakery - Only Teesta Setalvad doesn’t know this!
Now that you and I have had our laugh wake up to reality. Gujarat has proved that tit for tat can work. Communalism is an ugly fire that burns secularly!
I think that the people of Gujarat have learnt this lesson and that is why that state has been free of riots subsequently. And I hope the people of the other states are not waiting to learn the same first hand! If yes god help this country and poor innocents (irrespective of their religion) that will sacrifice their lives teaching the lesson.
Mian, one of the aspect of physical science is, it applies to all. Its NOT like Quran, where Muslims are superior, and others are inferior, or infidel.
WHAT APPLIES TO MUSLIMS ALSO APPLIES TO HINDUS.
By the way, WHERE WERE U WHEN 500,000 HINDUS DRIVEN OUT FROM KASHMIR?
or was it fault of Jagmohan?
Hehe..Jehadis are never at fault. Its always fault with infidels.
RE:Wahaj Faridy thinks, Newton's law applies ONLY for Muslims. It does NOT apply for Hindus :)-
by Dinesh on Jun 17, 2008 09:38 PM Permalink
You are brain washed by your religious mouth pieces. Why so many Hindus will leave the home land all of sudden after so many years of peaceful coexistence? Your magazines not wrote about the posters pasted on Hindu houses to leave Kashmir? Why those not vacated were killed then?
RE:Wahaj Faridy thinks, Newton's law applies ONLY for Muslims. It does NOT apply for Hindus :)-
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Jun 17, 2008 09:20 PM Permalink
Really?
U SHOW LITTLE REMORSE FOR 500000 HINDUS OF KASHMIR.
BUT U EXPECT US TO SHOW SYMPATHY FOR MUSLIMS OF GUJARAT?
RE:Wahaj Faridy thinks, Newton's law applies ONLY for Muslims. It does NOT apply for Hindus :)-
by orangewed on Jun 17, 2008 09:37 PM Permalink
Can you please gt some education. I will pay for it. Please get some education and then read quran. You guys are getting the wrong messages from the holy book. it is a well known fact that Islam wants to rule the world. But the way of doing it is wrong. Also muslim get so many benifits in india it is crazy. Just look at ur own society and pl before calling anybody else. Your religion is the most backward...the most pathetic...the most violent...i have no issues with koran, islam or a muslim. i have known several decent muslims who are lik any body else. but the sad muslims...only god can help them and ppl like u ..as i said pls go to school, send ur kids to school, stop doing herion, stop living in slums, stop making 10 kids per famlity and respect ur women...tht would be a good starting point for u....for money pls mail me at orangewed@rediffmail.com. i am already sponsoring 3 muslim slum families and they are progresing very well...
RE:There is Time Gap in Action and Reaction
by drax on Jun 17, 2008 08:59 PM Permalink
Dont keep on giving excuses. Muslims are inherently intolerant with its origin in Quran. All you need is a justification for all violence you commit. Anyway I dont expect you to really see this Truth since you all are brainwashed or with no brains. And no wonder majority of your community continues to languish in medieval barbarism unable to change with times.
RE:There is Time Gap in Action and Reaction
by Wahaj Faridy on Jun 17, 2008 09:07 PM Permalink
As per Justice Banerjee of Supreme Court, Muslims did not do that. It was burnt from inside.
Till date, train burning by Muslims is only a propaganda, even all Modi's men have not been able to prove it. But for you immatures, propaganda is all that matters.
RE:There is Time Gap in Action and Reaction
by drax on Jun 17, 2008 09:10 PM Permalink
LOL your knid of 'MATURES' only believes in doctored reports like Justice Banerjee (Laloo's stooge)commission which was even rejected by fact finding commission. Also you will believe in Conspiracy theories for 9/11 saying Bush did it. Shows how 'MATURE' you guys are. Even small kids will have better IQ than you nuts.
RE:There is Time Gap in Action and Reaction
by drax on Jun 17, 2008 09:04 PM Permalink
My dear if you see the statistics 95% of the riots are started by Muslims only.And also most of the affected also are muslims. And then again you are only looking for a reason to start violence thats all.
RE:RE:RE:There is Time Gap in Action and Reaction
by drax on Jun 17, 2008 09:12 PM Permalink
Just google 'Muslims riots India'. You will get plenty of Info.
Which was earlier? Purging of 500000 Hindus in Kashmir, or Ayodhya Demolition?
SIMI was established in 1977, much before even BJP was born.
SYED AHMED DEMANDED SEPARATE LAND FOR MUSLIMS IN 1870. In the name of Khilafat movement, muslims rioted everywhere. RSS WAS FOUNDED in 1923 to protect Hindus.
Don't teach history. Behave, or else get same behavior back.
But, as Hindus are united to a degree, muslims OPPOSE SAME NEWS NOW BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE MORE AWARE OF JEHAD, JEHADIS, THEIR SUPPORT STRUCTURE THESE DAYS.
Media will play a significant role in this fight against jehadi islam.
Our police officals are smart enough to curb all these activities. In 90% of cases they get to know the culprits but what stops them from taking further steps is political or external pressures.
RE:RE:Whenever SIMI used to be caught, Muslim Mullahs rallied
by raju on Jun 17, 2008 08:39 PM Permalink
LOL another Interesting story concocted by IB.LOL lage raho.......
RE:Whenever SIMI used to be caught, Muslim Mullahs rallied
by Bhautik Parekh on Jun 17, 2008 09:16 PM Permalink
I agree. We need Strong minded and strong will powered people like Modi who can fight all odds and work for people. Congress is playing Vote Bank and using Muslims. Majority of time since independence Congress has ruled. What did Muslims gain other than going towards Terrorism
