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by Virgo on Jun 14, 2008 06:59 AM  Permalink 

We need an addition of at least five more mountain divisions. The proposed five year time frame is too slow. This has to be done in two years.

In addition, we need five more regular divisions. Sorely needed are two crack airborne division along the line of US 101 and 82nd for rapid deployments.

The acquisition of new weapons and modernization must be done more rapidly. The MRCA fighter project has taken 20 years, but we still are going to take another five years! This is totally unacceptable. LCA must be allowed to come up on their own development time. However, that cannot be relied upon for the next ten years. So, we must speed up our acquisition process on MRCA, aircraft carriers, submarines, radars, missiles and so on.

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mountain divs
by Bodh Ramdeo on Jun 14, 2008 03:07 AM  Permalink 

Nehru despised the military and denied them any weaponry. His "pal" Chou knew this and felt totally free to invade, which he did in '62.

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penny wise pound foolish
by Pradip Parekh on Jun 14, 2008 02:58 AM  Permalink 

while the troops guard the mountains, terrorists stream into india riding lahore-dillie bus line and samjauta express by millions. if india had a majoritarian govt, well rooted in its native soil, naturally such bizzare spectacle would not happen. but it is the proverbial hindu luck that simply won't work for the hindus.

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Is it true that China will attack India after the 2008 Beijing Olympics?
by BostonTechee on Jun 13, 2008 10:28 PM  Permalink 

There are media reports in India which say

Former Vice Chief of Army Staff Lt. General (retired) Shantonu Choudhry expects that China is going to up the anti-India ante after the Beijing Olympic Games, and says that it could lead to some border skirmishes. The attempt will be more flagrant if Indias political centre is perceived as weak, he adds. Whether this starts in the autumn of 2008 or after the next general elections, will depend on Chinese calculations of which parties are likely to form the next government in New Delhi. This is to response to growning Indo-US coperation and Indo-US neuclear deal.

An attempt by China to show who is the boss in Asia and also in the world.

And not to forget the recent events in Nepal where the Maoists took power and kicked the king out of the palace. Also please do not forget the immidiate tensions and aggitations by the Gorkhaland agitators suddenley in Darjilieng..can be disconnected these have to be the same beads of the string.


Any comments on these ?



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Finally the Defense Ministry is seeing things my way:
by Vishnu Sharma on Jun 13, 2008 10:01 PM  Permalink 

If you look up abytheliberal India vs china on Google:

Given All our Northern Areas are mountainous
We need to have the best Mountain divisions in the world.

I have made similar recommendations:

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India plans to strengthen mountain warfare machinery
by DrKnow on Jun 13, 2008 04:48 PM  Permalink 

mmmmmmmmm....... Isn't it tooooooo late....

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Leftist parties of India are on payroll of Chinese govt.
by Sanjay Pawar on Jun 13, 2008 04:16 PM  Permalink 

Any self-respecting country would have raised defence expenditure after Chinese betrayal and loss of 1962 to take back the land grabbed by China in 1962 war but not India.

Indian worthless and corrupt politicians in fact neglected our armed forces after 1962. Politicians along with bureaucrats are more interested in kickbacks in arms deals to line their own pockets than strengtening our armed forces.

With the result arm purchases are delayed for years and our worthless politicians only wake up when a country like China or China's lap dog Pakistan attack India.

Leftist parties in India are paid servants of Chinese govt hence Congress is deliberately being ignoring the threat from China from last 3-4 years and worse neglecting our armed forces under pressure from left parties.

Raising mountain division now in 2008 is too little, too late.

It is an open secret that China will attack India after the Olympic games. Be prepared for another 1962 debacle and then blame game and finger pointing amongst various political parties.

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China Plans attack on India
by intelligent on Jun 13, 2008 04:01 PM  Permalink 

Former Vice Chief of Army Staff Lt. General (retired) Shantonu Choudhry expects that China is going to up the anti-India ante after the Beijing Olympic Games, and says that it could lead to some border skirmishes. The attempt will be more flagrant if Indias political centre is perceived as weak, he adds.
Whether this starts in the autumn of 2008 or after the next general elections, will depend on Chinese calculations of which parties are likely to form the next government in New Delhi, he says.
Lt. General (retired) Choudhry further adds that the probability of an all-out border war is low, but a series of border skirmishes is a distinct possibility.
He says the growth of the Indian economy and the countrys recent attempts to develop closer ties with the US are viewed with deep suspicion by China.
Lt. General (retired) Choudhry adds that the Chinese fear that growing US ties with India and the nuclear deal will bring about a shift in the balance of power in South and South East Asia which would be against Chinas strategic interests.Commenting on Chinas anti-India motive, he said that Beijing would like to tarnish the image of New Delhi in the wake of perceived struggle for dominance in South and South East Asia.
Lt. General (retired) Choudhry says, China may actually like to engineer a border conflict and the Indian political, diplomatic and military leadership must prepare for it. Along the border there are a


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China Helping Noth East Ultras
by intelligent on Jun 13, 2008 03:58 PM  Permalink 

China’s nexus with NE ultras remains a challenge
Nirendra Dev
NEW DELHI, June 9: Notwithstanding the apparently forward-looking postures adopted by both sides during the just-concluded visit of the external affairs minister, Mr Pranab Mukherjee, to China, several vexed issues still remain unresolved between the two countries. A key aspect of these disputes revolves around North-east India vis-à-vis China’s support to North-east-based ultras.
During Mr Mukherjee’s interaction with Chinese leaders, Beijing did raise the issue of Sikkim, which, of course, the Indian side brushed aside, taking the stance that it could not be part of their current talks since the Sikkim border was already finalised and settled in 1959.
As far back as 1954, the Chinese government, taking refuge in the “old map”, had “incorporated” the entire North-east as a part of their territory, thereby betraying their designs on the region.
In 1960, the Chinese came up with the idea of formation of a “Himalayan Federation” comprising Nepal, Sikkim and Arunachal Pradesh (erstwhile NEFA).
In 1967, China supported the armed uprising by Leftist ultras in Naxalbari in West Bengal. The Chinese, intelligence sources maintain, had supported the uprising with the sole objective to cut off the strategic significant Indian north east from the rest of the country by cutting the “Siliguri Corridor”. The Naxalite uprising had been hailed in China as “Spring Thunder over India”. In 1967, Naga rebel leader Thuingal

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Dragons Cyber war on India
by intelligent on Jun 13, 2008 03:57 PM  Permalink 

Dragons Cyber war on India

On March 2008: An IP address originating from China Intrudes in to secured Indian cyber territory. Hackers attacked MEA Ministry if external affairs site managed by servers located in the National capital. They have believed to have stolen login identities and passwords of a host of Indian Diplomats and sneaked away with Top Secrets information but as usual New Delhi denied.

Commonwealth Games 2010 in India and IT war Scenario


Commonwealth games are in full swing and Delhi Metro is running in full capacity .
In between of the games on 1st week around during office hours, servers of DMRC crash thus cutting off power and halting trains for more than 4 hrs due to which lacs of people get stuck in between. Even few trains missed collisions.
TV stations blank out
BSES Rajdhani automated servers stop working thus shutting down even power across delhi.
ATC servers are under control of foreign command centers.
Many flights missed Air collisions, flights started getting cancelled
Biggest cyber attack on Mumbai Financial HUB Stock markets of both Exchanges BSE & NSE even Regulator watchdog SEBI and FIU( Financial Intelligence Unit) and most important
BARC Bhabha Atomic research centers and all OFBS (Ordnance factory are totally cutoff from center and state thus paralyzing Indian Economic not by Militarily but by Technologically creating web army by Chinese Mandarins.


This might come as true ahead of Indias own Commonwealth Games in 2010

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