Even if krishna is involved in the murder his presence on or before night of murder was not revealed by any talwar family member..
He surely was in with someone permission & knowledge..
Seems both murders were in course to hide somehing fishy that could have spoiled murderers future.
If Mr.Talwar was drunk at that night but not Mrs.Talwar.. The accused/co-accused is definately Father/Mother koi aur (which currently in picture is krishna).
At this rate, 95% of the murders in the world are justified including the ones committed by terrorists... I am sure everyone will have a perfect justification in their head.
RE:Talwar innocent
by pankaj kumar saxena on Jun 13, 2008 07:45 PM Permalink
surely, everyone has logic for its own action, irrespective of legal or illegal. I tell u one example. Most of us generally ask sabjiwala about any of the vegetable present on his thela' Bhaiya, yeh kaisi hai? What would be his answer, surely - GOOD. Just imply a simple logic, if he says No, it is not good, then why he would keep on his thela.
RE:Talwar innocent
by rajendra K on Jun 13, 2008 07:02 PM Permalink
This mentality affected India more then any other thoughts. Girl has spinster prior to marriage is really a bad concept. That is reason we have open up lot of orphanages for widows.
RE:Talwar innocent
by Milind Phadke on Jun 13, 2008 06:52 PM Permalink
Goodness! Are you from the dark ages or what? How does ANYTHING justify murdering your own daughter. The loss of character, as you call it, has to be dealt with by parents and society in general, but this is NOT the way to address it. What a reprehensible attitude.
RE:Talwar innocent
by Anup Halarnkar on Jun 13, 2008 07:05 PM Permalink
Mr Raman, you are an absolutely SICK person and I feel you are really not in touch with the our culture. KILLING someone who's been only for 15years in this world for something she might even not be aware of sounds absolutely ridiculous. Who has given you the right to denigrate "Jesus" or any religion? Westerners are advanced in every field be it Science, Medicine, Engineering, SPace research...and all this is because of their OPEN MINDED APPROACH to resolve issues. LEARN SOMETHING FROM THEM instead!
RE:Talwar innocent
by Anup Halarnkar on Jun 13, 2008 07:22 PM Permalink
Selfish people like you dont wanna give credit to others for the good things they done which have has resulted in a QUALITY LIFE to live in.
EQUALITY which didnt exist in our culture ...eg; BRAHMIN, DALIT, .... Horrendous culture which still supports CHILD MARRIAGES , SATI....etc were the result of THINKING of your kind of people who dont wanna listen to others.
Its good that the Narco Analysis has been put to use too frequently for any sort of investigation. How authentic are the tests? Everyone remembers Telgi coming out with the biggest names of Maharashtra Politics Mr CM, Mr Then Deputy CM and Mr BCCI. Everybody (people concerned and responsible for/with the judgement of the Telgi Case)then claimed that the tests were in their infant stage and that they do not reveal any truth. Infact Mr BCCI Has been recorded on camera denying /Defying/refusing all the authenticity of the tests. Why then are we conducting the tests if the Socio-Politico bigwigs are not ready to accept its results? Or is it that the tests reveal only the facts of the common man and not the politicians ?
As a citizen of india it good to see that CBI and Police is working atleast for this case and that is becoz of Media.put a camera on every officer working on this case and give us the report.
so arushi's father is innocent after all!remember the stories put out by the UP cops and the "investigative smart ass media"? rajesh talwar killing his own daughter to cover up his affair ! his wife being an accomplice to that! they organising "sordid" parties at home which arushi objected to!.. the criminally incompetent police who dont have any genuine investigating capabilities tried to fix an innocent person cruelly with the most shocking and dehumanising allegations .. and the vulture like media .. jokers all of them.. tried to fan that mailicious nonsense for increasing TRP and circultion ..can u imagine what the father went thru ? first daughter is brutally murdered and then his reputation is raped! i will support a govt and party who can hang these kind of people or better still shoot them in public!
RE:criminal police media
by Narendra Bhutda on Jun 13, 2008 06:20 PM Permalink
This all happen becaue in Govt , the most of the officer selected on the basis of caste not on the basis of MERIT . So the delivery system of the govt is destroyed in name of SOCIAL REFOMATION....This is not only with police department , we all can see all this in each & every department of the GOI ......Can we ever take a decison that the reservation should be made on the basis of merit on the basis on caste ?... LONG LIVE MOTHER INDIA
RE:criminal police media
by srinivasan mv on Jun 13, 2008 06:09 PM Permalink
For the damag done to his reputation and his family, Dr. Talwar should claim crores of rupes from the UP Police and the Media.
Only then the Media and the Police will behave responsibly.
RE:criminal police media
by Sheetal Kaur on Jun 13, 2008 06:15 PM Permalink
It is not proven yet, "it was also said that Talwar,Aarushi's father, may be innocent." MAY BE not definitive yet. something else might come up in the trail, One mans words are not enough they have to be verified in the court. Read paragraph Six of the article again.
RE:criminal police media
by Satya ss on Jun 13, 2008 06:28 PM Permalink
"MAY" has to be read carefully. He is innocent until proven guilty. He should go after the bad police and media who tarnished his name and already sent him to gallows with out any clear evidence.
RE:criminal police media
by Rakesh Prasad on Jun 13, 2008 06:27 PM Permalink
Prime suspect untill yesterday was Rajesh Talwar why not do narcoanalysis on him and if he is your prime suspect Mrs Talwar becomes an accomplice she has not even been arrested. See the double standards, all servants picked up without charge and subjected all unscientific tests but the rich get away. Its not proved they are innocent neither its proved they are guilty. So wait for the investigations to complete although the way the CBI is progressing I don't think they will catch the real culprit.
RE:RE:criminal police media
by prabhat mohanty on Jun 13, 2008 06:36 PM Permalink
- If you are not aware of the details then you must not talk imuplsively.
CBI has already put Dr Talwar through Polygraph. When it throws up some clue, they move to the second stage. Dr Talwar's ready willingness had infact had surprised CBI.
RE:criminal police media
by Rakesh Prasad on Jun 13, 2008 07:27 PM Permalink
See polygraph test, narcoanalysis, all these tests will prove nothing. The only point I wanted to make is they so easily took krishna for the narcoanalysis test, they didn't even have court orders for that it was only when bangalore team refused to do the test they got the court orders. It won't be easy to subject the Talwars for narcoanalysis because their lawyers will fight tooth and nail against it.
RE:criminal police media
by Sandeep Mukherjee on Jul 14, 2008 07:04 PM Permalink
no sir dr talwar went thru the narco analysis test without fighting it tooth and nail! he willingly and keenly participated coz he had nothing to hide.. and krishna's special " qualification" as a "poor man" doesnt make him innocent .. plenty of "poor men" commit plenty of heinous crimes and try their best to get away with it every day.. in this case its interesting to note that it ws this "poor man" krishna who had fed all those stories to the noida cops about talwar - durrani affair and orgy parties at their residence.. it ws he who has supplied the theory that hemraj ws caught in a objectionable position with aarushi.. base on these the noida cops immediately went on national TV ( without any investigation/verification) with their theory against the talwars!
RE:RE:RE:criminal police media
by Rakesh Prasad on Jun 13, 2008 07:32 PM Permalink
by the way how do you know CBI were surprised when Dr. Talwar accepted for the polygraph test.
RE:criminal police media
by Common Admi on Jun 13, 2008 06:20 PM Permalink
See I do not want to conclude anything, but the problem is we reach to a conclusion with limited or no information. Earlier majority of bloggers went on doing a lot of charecter assassination of Arushi, her parents and our present urban social structures. Now we are all going ahead and saying a lot of things about Police and media. The only thing I want to say is, CBI till now is just saying he "MIGHT" be innocent. Also, uptil CBI has not filed any chargesheet with any concrete name in the court, so the case is still wide open and we should not try to conclude anything ourselves.