it is quite clear the vast majority of india knows that it must must get rid of congressis and commies amongst its midst and elect bjp govs in states and center. and that is the right realization as we see steadily state after state electing bjp govts. however, bjp guys did not exactly drop from the sky, they too are product of the same millieu. but bjp has considerable better moral fiber and strong, rightly oriented leadership; but it could unravel if the people are not watchful. the people's hope will be realized only thr' the bjp if the people keep a close eye on it.
India is a rich and richly endowed land, yet it is pauperized, backward, under-developed, and mired in filth and squalor, all thanks to successive useless and destructive Congress govts. Hopefully the electorate will see to their way to elect yet another Congress govt to maintain the status quo - yessirree! Not even God can save poor India from the clutches of the evil Commies - Congress CPI CPM.
RE:BJP?
by sakar panch on Jun 19, 2008 09:48 AM Permalink
What are you talking man?
Rajasthan based on every report and every view had great progression during Shekawat rule which virtually erased the bad rule of congress for decades. Rajasthani's stupidly and mercilessly threw him out in the next elections. How sad. The progression stopped fortwith and detriorated once again under congress. Problems are huge give some good administrator time to rectify, please.
RE:BJP?
by Pradip Parekh on Jun 15, 2008 02:51 AM Permalink
rajasthan already started to receive canal waters off the narmada river. it is already doing measurably better than during all the congressi years put together.
I suggest Nationalist should not indulge in pity argument with those supporting minority politics. Just take the good out of the article and leave the rest for the immature audience to argue about.
I believe that only enemies can tell you your true limitations and that's exactly what this article is conveying. Accepted that there is some different style of functioning on individual basis. I don't see anything wrong as long as the end goal is same i.e., to establish Hindu Rastra (not religion). Individual's will still be able to practice their own faith with full freedom without disrupting majority (people)'s daily life.
RE:Learn your limitations and move on
by Nanchil on Jun 13, 2008 11:08 AM Permalink
Why so-called nationalists agitated in Hogenakkal not to give drinking water to TamilNadu?
RE:Learn your limitations and move on
by All Right on Jun 13, 2008 12:22 PM Permalink
Coz they are nationalists.... . :-)
I could argue on your logic asking for Sonia Gandhi and entire Congress to vote for BJP - guess why? Coz BJP people are Indian too.. . Since Sonia and party fail to vote for BJP doesn't make them anti-nationalists does it? That's called as protecting one's own turf to the extent possible.... That's what Hogenakkal is all about... If you can understand
RE:Learn your limitations and move on
by Nanchil on Jun 13, 2008 01:45 PM Permalink
"Coz they are nationalists.... . :-) "- By cutting some 'kadi' jokes you cannot hide the truth. No nationlist will protest giving drinking water to another state. How come BJP calls itself 'nationalist'?
RE:Learn your limitations and move on
by All Right on Jun 13, 2008 05:18 PM Permalink
:-) You didn't defend Sonia?... hate BJP so much?... OK we are all square now.. Sonia is anti-national and so is BJP... account settled
The story on BJP is far from correct overlooking the fact that UP is one area having maximum MPs which if returns less than 50 MPs, BJP can never entrone to delhi except by adding numbers from Mithila and Andhra where it can gain if labours hard and bargains people on emotional issues as well as practical issues like creation of Mithila state. The personal projections of persons in the article can bear result only if a magic number is about to be touched. Further except Jharkhand where it can gain something ,if Babulal marandi can return in its fold, the other states where BJP counts has reached saturation. So it should concentrate on Mithila region of Bihar and Andhra region where it was a force before marrying TDP. And likewise Assam where it lost mayying AGP. 0 0 = 0 should be learnt and also new faces should be given tickets..People are fade up with old faces(including Advani I think who should better go to renunciation path of Nanji Deshmukh)..Let youth if country decide whom they want even in BJP..intra party democarcy is a must in all parties and they shpould learn from USs primary's recent lessons.
RE:POWER EQUATION in BJP Will hang on Mithila and Andhra not on persons or UP
by All Right on Jun 13, 2008 12:28 PM Permalink
Intra party democracy?....
And you are teaching that to the most cadre based and democratic party - the BJP?... Great... I think the Royal family of the Gandhis will laugh at this misdemeanour from you... giving the Indira Congress (one of the only parties to be based on an "individual person") a clean chit of being democratic..
One more case of media mischief!...Even small things they blow out of proportion?!.... Is Neeraja paid by the Cong. to write such rubbish?!!!
The "pseudo-secularism " of Congress is ignored and Hindutvay is higlighted as if it is abig crime. Muslims can be called as "minorities" and the PM could declare "they have the first right", but merely praising God i nthe name of Ram/Krishna is wrong!!!!!! All because of the shameless HINDUS! Sometimes I feel ashamed of being born into this great religion - Hindus because of such selfish / foolish attitude of the Hindus!
It is this Hindutva which has unified the country and this Hindutva which has enabled the other religions to live peacefully here..DON'T Forget THAT!
RE:Media Mischief
by Nanchil on Jun 12, 2008 12:24 PM Permalink
"It is this Hindutva which has unified the country and this Hindutva which has enabled the other religions to live peacefully here" - I like this cruel joke!!!
RE:Media Mischief
by All Right on Jun 12, 2008 12:35 PM Permalink
Thanks... is this high up there in the category of "Her Highness Madame Sonia Gandhi is the greatest leader Indira Congress could every find"?
RE:Media Mischief
by tajender on Jun 12, 2008 12:47 PM Permalink
bjp means bania not hindu.rss(rumour spreading society) is hate spreading organization dont consider muslims like equal to other sons of india.MAnmohan statement abt muslims as they r economically most backward in indian he wants to see all indian as equally happy being true indian.member of sangh parivar has billions&billions of stolen money accumulated in swiss banks.in india slogan is RAM RAM JAPNA PARAYA MAAL APNA.all of them r financial thieve.
RE:The demon's earth agenda:BJP
by Ramanath Babu on Jun 12, 2008 11:28 AM Permalink
You only vote for the communists who will make Kerala a paradise and it will be angles everywhere! We are seeing those angles everyday in Kannur.
RE:The demon's earth agenda:BJP
by Noel D'Souza on Jun 13, 2008 08:26 AM Permalink
A billion people! That's interesting.Even if you add up all the Hindus it wont be a billion. You must be visiting McDonald's too often!
RE:The demon's earth agenda:BJP
by Rajan Shah on Jun 13, 2008 12:56 PM Permalink
Okay so lets say there are 745.45 million Hindus, and if you round it up, then say there are 745.5 million Hindus. That is still a shit load of Hindus, don't you think.
RE:The demon's earth agenda:BJP
by Rajan Shah on Jun 12, 2008 12:36 PM Permalink
thats it, thats a good boy. Lash out, strike out and scream at the top of our lungs. There feel better now. Notice the difference. Nah off course not, things are still the same aren't they :) You could try BJP are the scum bag of mars or jupiter, or may be BJP are like dogs, cats, snails, gnats, demons(hah theres a good one). See if screaming any of these will calm you down :)
RE:The demon's earth agenda:BJP
by sethu madhavan on Jun 12, 2008 11:40 AM Permalink
Demons are evil, be it mahabharatha or ramayana or anything else. Remember sri ramakrishna paramahamsa's observation that it is most undesirable to live under falsehood in the garb of truth.
RE:The demon's earth agenda:BJP
by Vinay Siddama on Jun 12, 2008 11:24 AM Permalink
No difference. Demons are demons. If you like categorzing and details, be our guest
RE:The demon's earth agenda:BJP
by Vinay Siddama on Jun 12, 2008 11:37 AM Permalink
Have you tested your belief system first?
- putting Ayodhya and Baba Budangiri on the backbunner - calling Jinnah secular and nationalist - swearing by farmers and then shooting them - promising Gujjars ST staus and then backtracking
This is only a very short list. You are free to detail
RE:The demon's earth agenda:BJP
by All Right on Jun 12, 2008 12:36 PM Permalink
:-) Sorry... wrong list. But no worries... you obviously had to put SOMETHING in there to have a list at all..
Earlier, it started with Vajpayee vs Advani. There were many reports which were trying to split those 2 leaders. But, Advani himself has declared that he is No 2 as long as Vajpayee was there. Now, that Vajpayee has taken political sanyas due to his health. So, Advani is obviously No 1. Rajnath Singh agrees, Modi agrees, MM Joshi agrees and everyone in BJP unanimously agrees.
But, now thru this sort of article our "learned" journalist will tell that "Rajnath is Advani II", "Modi is above Advani" and all such useless crap.
I think these people like Neeraja Chowdhury are taking more effort to split the BJP than Congress
Atleast in BJP you can say "After Vajpayee its Advani", After Advani it may be Modi, After Modi it may be Jaitley etc.
Can Neeraja name anyone outside Sonia parivarr in Congress who can lead the party after Sonia?
RE:Typical Anti BJP Journalist
by sisya on Jun 12, 2008 12:00 PM Permalink
dear neutral,
Infact this article tell us about the strength of BJP. If not vajpaee it is advani, if not advani it is rajnath, if not rajnath it is Modi,
Vs congress
if not I gandhi it is R Gandhi if not r gandhi it is s Gandhi if not s gandhi it is R Gandhi if not r gandhi it is * Gandhi if not * gandhi it is * Gandhi
BJP as a matter of fact projecting new faces. it is good that Rajanth is projecting Rudy and Naqvi.
RE:Typical Anti BJP Journalist
by Vinay Siddama on Jun 12, 2008 11:20 AM Permalink
Just as in 1991 Congress found Narasimha Rao and in 2004 MMS, if needed, a leader will be thrown up
RE:Typical Anti BJP Journalist
by Vinay Siddama on Jun 12, 2008 11:44 AM Permalink
Prehaps you missed the point - it is siuations that throw up leaders. Where a situation like Karnataka's frmers agitation fails to throw up strong leadership, it signals bad tidings for a political party! Once the lectorate perceives you as fumbling jack asses then you finished!
RE:Typical Anti BJP Journalist
by Vinay Siddama on Jun 12, 2008 12:08 PM Permalink
Winning an election once is not n achievement. If you what to keep on winning then the party in power should deliver governance.
The epicentre where the farmer's riots are taking place is BJP's traditional bastion - which gave them an additional 15 seats this time.
You may not be worried, but the BJP in the state and center are in a state of shock!
RE:RE:RE:Typical Anti BJP Journalist
by Vinay Siddama on Jun 12, 2008 12:00 PM Permalink
Precisely. Fertilizer shortage has always been a recurring problem in Karnataka. Why only this time riots and farmers being shot?
Till the vote of confidence - the Chief Minister did not appoint an Agriculure Minister - Even knowing that farmers were agitated after being sworn in as CM, Yediruppa did not appoint a task group to look after the problem - Even after distribution of portfolios, no task group was constituted - Home Ministry wanted to crush the agitation with a heavy hand - so gave orders to shoot. - Till todate, no steps have been taken to check hoarding as the hoarders are mainly BJP party wokers or supporters - Diversion of fertilizer to CMs and Home Ministers constituencies - Values lowly a farmer's life by promising Rs 2 lakhs
It short. BJP government has exposed itself as fumbling jack asses
RE:Typical Anti BJP Journalist
by Vinay Siddama on Jun 12, 2008 11:56 AM Permalink
She won the great Bangla Desh victory didn't she or made India a super power. If it weren't for Indira Gandhi, we would be having food riots in India.
RE:Typical Anti BJP Journalist
by Hebbar R on Jun 12, 2008 02:22 PM Permalink
There is a lot of succession available in the Congress. The only problem is it is based on the surname.
- Well well, this does sits well on Advani's head. It's not that he has not tried hard. After all Bajpayee became a statesman from a simple politician by talking different things at different places / different times on the same subject. Time difference could even be just 24 hours. Bajpayee would say one thing in Delhi, another in Manali and yet another in Goa.
Advani must have been a real dis-illusioned man!
After all, Bajpayee enjoyed whole heartedly all good works done by him. It's Advani who travelled like Bhagwan Ramchandra on a Rath from Somnath to Ayodhya and incited Hindus to unite and finally tallied Lok Sabha setas from mere 4 to 180 !
Yet when time came, it's old man Bajpayee who took all the cream and left Advani to guard Akarshdham and Parliament. (It's different matter if he was sleeping during guarding Akarshdham,Rughunath temple and Parliament.)
When another opportunity came, Advani looked around for somebody to propose his name for PMship, George Fernades would not look into his eyes and rather started cleaning his spectacle.
What does poor Advani do ?
After all, to be the Prime Minister of this country, one has to become Pseudo Secular!
So he goes and praise Jinnha and now advises BJP to become close to Muslims and Christians.
And yes, he also ran to Sonia's doorstep with folded hands!!!
After all, kissa kursi ka hai!!!
So the latest his poetry and some "readymade-tears" from our lau-purush!
RE:Bajpayeeisation of Advani ?
by All Right on Jun 12, 2008 10:41 AM Permalink
Dinna understand his running to Her Highness Madame Sonia Gandhiji's doorstep...
Was he trying to entice His Highness Prince Charming Rahul Gandhiji to join BJP?
RE:Bajpayeeisation of Advani ?
by Vinay Siddama on Jun 12, 2008 10:45 AM Permalink
Perhaps, convinced that the BJP had no chance of winning back Delhi, he swallowed his pride and fell on his knees in front of Royal Highness - "Madame if you want to replace MMS, then how about with me?"
RE:Bajpayeeisation of Advani ?
by Vinay Siddama on Jun 12, 2008 11:07 AM Permalink
Prehaps he thought Sonia is better than how his RSS masters humilated him and went to convey this to her?
RE:Bajpayeeisation of Advani ?
by Vinay Siddama on Jun 12, 2008 11:54 AM Permalink
Thought why not dump Kamala and marry the Italian? Get the Nehru-Gandhi tag and be PM?
RE:Bajpayeeisation of Advani ?
by Vinay Siddama on Jun 12, 2008 10:40 AM Permalink
Prabhat written well and it leaves no one in doubt that you are passonately commited to your cause.
We need to ask the same of Yediruppa about the small shrine in Baba Budangiri. This scenic place, nestled amidst the Western Ghats in the district of Chickmagalur was chosen by Sangh Parivar to make it the "Ayodhya of the South". Baba Budnagiri is a place of worship for both Muslims as well as Hindus, a sufi shrine. Datta, broke away from the mainstream Hindu practices and joined Bab Budan to establish a place of worship for the suppressed people from any religion. For several centuries people from all the communities have worshipped in this temple. The BJP in 2003 declared that the shrine needed to be liberated and cleaned of Muslim influence. A huge agitation was launched.
Would your BJP government in Karnataka now liberate Baba Budangiri?
RE:Bajpayeeisation of Advani ?
by prabhat mohanty on Jun 12, 2008 10:43 AM Permalink
- Sorry I am personally not aware about the details. So I can not offer any comments.
RE:RE:Bajpayeeisation of Advani ?
by All Right on Jun 12, 2008 10:42 AM Permalink
Why, if you want it liberated, you are welcome to launch any agitation...
Don't always sit back and expect BJP to do all your dirty work for you...
RE:RE:RE:Bajpayeeisation of Advani ?
by Vinay Siddama on Jun 12, 2008 10:48 AM Permalink
So you admit that the concept of liberating Baba Budangiri was dirty un the first place! We are making progress after all
RE:Bajpayeeisation of Advani ?
by Vinay Siddama on Jun 12, 2008 11:28 AM Permalink
Why aren't you the same social lumpens who demolished Babri Masjid? Have you guys taken some social ettiquette classes during the last 15 years?
This makes your traditonal cadres like Prahbat frustrated
RE:Bajpayeeisation of Advani ?
by All Right on Jun 12, 2008 11:22 AM Permalink
That's what I said... .politicising it will stall things...
Hold on if you want it done by political means... else just go and grab the land like Congress backed looters do encroachments in Mumbai.... Congress later backdates their approval... That is the agreed political process... if you are in a hurry....
RE:Bajpayeeisation of Advani ?
by All Right on Jun 12, 2008 11:04 AM Permalink
I know you want it desperately.... but hold on... or go for it yourself..
RE:Bajpayeeisation of Advani ?
by Vinay Siddama on Jun 12, 2008 11:06 AM Permalink
Why hold on? The BJP is in government on their own strength. All they do is to have a cabinet meeting and take a decision.
RE:Bajpayeeisation of Advani ?
by Vinay Siddama on Jun 12, 2008 11:01 AM Permalink
But the issue was politised by the BJP in 2003 with all your lotus flags all over Karnataka. So why depolitise it when they are in government and with single governmental order can obtain the desired objective they targeted in 2003
RE:Bajpayeeisation of Advani ?
by All Right on Jun 12, 2008 11:35 AM Permalink
Siddamama:
Why is BJP this way, and not that way?... doesn't suit a pseudo like you...
Better figure out what Her Highness Madame Sonia Gandhiji's successor will look like... will it be His Highness Prince Charming Rahul Gandhiji? or not?... I think it will... but as I said, I don't go down that path... you are free to think what you want to..
RE:Bajpayeeisation of Advani ?
by All Right on Jun 12, 2008 10:57 AM Permalink
I don't know about Bundagiri.... but your idea of liebrating it sounds okay... Just do it yourself this time around rather than politicising the issue... politicising just stalls things you know.
RE:Bajpayeeisation of Advani ?
by Vinay Siddama on Jun 12, 2008 11:48 AM Permalink
No need. In 2004, without a PM candidate, the elecorate inflicted a crushing defeat of the NDA and ended up much better off - we have now have the honor of having MMS as PM.
RE:Bajpayeeisation of Advani ?
by All Right on Jun 12, 2008 12:40 PM Permalink
Yeah.. let's see how long will he keep warming up the chair for His Highness Prince Charming Rahul Gandhiji.. :-)
The BJP certainly succeeded in forming a government in Karnataka but narrowly missed the half way mark which is very different than sweeping the state.
A week they say is a long time in politics. The continuing farmers agitation in Karnataka is eating into the "glow of victory" just as the Gujjer agitation does in Rajasthan. Since BJP has put into the limelight their government formation in Karnataka, then much depends upon how this government performs. It maybe initial hiccups but the mismanagement of the farmers agitation does create the impression that the BJP govt in Karnataka are like fumbling jack asses.
4 months time when Rajasthan & MP goes to polls and if BJP suffers reverses what will Neerja says.
RE:If a Week is too long a period in Politics........
by Rajan Shah on Jun 12, 2008 11:10 AM Permalink
Vinay, Vinay, Vinay, Darling Vinay,
if "BJP govt in Karnataka are like fumbling jack asses.", there is no need for such language darling, the BJP will loose the state one day, that is a given. Now in the mean time you have to take it like a man in the Nads (you do know what nads are don't you - off course you do what sort of a jack ass doesn't :) ), yes off course you do. So take it like a man in the nads just because your beloved congress is out of it.
RE:If a Week is too long a period in Politics........
by Vinay Siddama on Jun 12, 2008 11:17 AM Permalink
The slogan "Give us a chance was an effective one" It is normal for any human being tempted by the untried. Once BJP is given an opportunity to be exposed as jack asses then as you highlighted the purpose is served. Thank you
RE:If a Week is too long a period in Politics........
by Rajan Shah on Jun 12, 2008 11:21 AM Permalink
oh darling no need to thank me. I like to help all those whose nads hurt as a result of a defeat. So do you know what nads are, or do I need to explain it to you darling
RE:RE:If a Week is too long a period in Politics........
by Vinay Siddama on Jun 12, 2008 11:13 AM Permalink
Give us a Chance was an effective strategy. Once a chance is given, and BJP's jack ass behaviour established, the purpose is served as you correctly pointed out. Thank you.
RE:If a Week is too long a period in Politics........
by All Right on Jun 12, 2008 10:38 AM Permalink
Let 4 months come first... :-)
She spoke about Karnataka AFTER the elections...
But pseudos like you keep singing about BJP routs BEFORE the election always.... like they'll be routed in Gujarat.... look what happened? They'll be routed in Karnataka - look what happened? They'll be routed in Rajasthan and MP after 4 months... ;-) another prediction...
By the way, how much off the half way mark was Congress during the last General Elections?
RE:If a Week is too long a period in Politics........
by Vinay Siddama on Jun 12, 2008 10:54 AM Permalink
No need to pass half way mark to form the Indian Central Government was demonstrated by the BJP through the NDA experiment.
The BJP has this tendency to pre-ejaculate as in 2004 when they thought they had the elections all wrapped up. Thus time too, they are showing that they haven't learnt lessons by declaring themselves as front runners.
Remember. Congress is unpredicitible like the Indian cricket team - capable of snatching victory from the jaws of death (2004) as well as snatching defeat from the jaws of victory (2008 - Karnataka)
RE:RE:RE:If a Week is too long a period in Politics........
by Rajan Shah on Jun 12, 2008 11:17 AM Permalink
"The BJP has this tendency to pre-ejaculate", Vinay darling that is a very good point. And obviously you seem to have studied the subject of pre-ejaculation quite a bit. Now there is only one reason for a man to study the subject, isn't there. So have you been cured yet :)
RE:If a Week is too long a period in Politics........
by Vinay Siddama on Jun 12, 2008 11:22 AM Permalink
Maybe I am a woman who found BJP guys either pre-ejaculating or Gays. But who am I to tell?
RE:If a Week is too long a period in Politics........
by Rajan Shah on Jun 12, 2008 11:27 AM Permalink
"Maybe I am a woman..", well listen darling if you are not sure look between your legs. It must be there somewhere :)
RE:If a Week is too long a period in Politics........
by Vinay Siddama on Jun 12, 2008 11:30 AM Permalink
It is within. What's use explaining to you knickerwallahs who have no interest in women and go ga ga on that Gay - Modi?
RE:If a Week is too long a period in Politics........
by Rajan Shah on Jun 12, 2008 11:39 AM Permalink
oh darling how can you say such a cruel thing. I am here to help because you are not sure if you are a man or a woman and this is how you behave. Besides, modi is not my type. He is a right wing extremist who targets minorities. No darling I much prefer liberals. Especially those that don't know if they are a man or a woman
RE:RE:If a Week is too long a period in Politics........
by All Right on Jun 12, 2008 11:28 AM Permalink
Thank god you didn't mention Modi.... all pseudos like to mention him at least once a day...
Especially when discussing their own ilk . . i.e. gays...
Though why they want to do that... I have no idea..
RE:If a Week is too long a period in Politics........
by All Right on Jun 12, 2008 11:01 AM Permalink
My dear pseudo:
BJP and its allies form a solid clear alliance BEFORE the elections.... So it's in effect passing half way mark clearly...
Congress on the other hand (as it will no doubt try doing in Karnataka shortly) fails to win and THEN starts looking for bed partners on the pretext of keeping BJP away from power... :-)
That's the difference..
Anyway - you have a brain - and I trust knowledge of how to use it - so please form your opinions... who am I to stop you from doing that?.. :-)
RE:If a Week is too long a period in Politics........
by Vinay Siddama on Jun 12, 2008 11:11 AM Permalink
BJP in states like Goa did the same thing. But I understand - having different standards fo the same issue reveals the prvision of A BP's supporter's mind!
