If one has criminal instincts, he will not bring religion in picture, like many criminals who are in every religion.
Who will show Islam as reason to fight against non-muslims? Those who are influenced, brainwashed by Islamic Mullas. These brainwashed or braindead peoples logic comes from the book not from their brain.
If there are good muslims , it doesnt mean Islam is good. They are not influenced by Islam or they compare themselves with well educated, cultured hindus, atheists and the influence of Islam is subtle on them.
At the end of the day it is not good muslims that we should consider for deciding nature of Islam. It is the Islam or the potential of Islam to create criminals and murderers that we need to consider. It is the statistics of incidents in the world that we should consider. It is the experiences of millions of people that were effected by Islam that we should consider and certainsly not your good muslim friend that we should consider while deciding the nature of Islam.
RE:It is for sure Islamic terrorism
by Tathagatha Mukherjee on Jun 05, 2008 11:00 PM Permalink
CAN you stop Thackeray Shiv Sena party when they were beating up Hindu Biharis and North Indian vegetable sellers who were poor street vendors trying to feed their family and earn a living. WERE THEY NOT HINDUS WHEN SHIV SENA KILLED THEm. can you stop hindus being killed by Bengali Hindus in assam just for entering the state. WERE SIKHS NOT bloody PATRIOTS WHEN JAGDISH TYTLER HAD THEM BURNT ON TYRES IN FRONT OF SMALL CHILDREN and the whole HINDU BRAVE PEOPLE WERE WATCHING THE TAMASHA. Where was your BRAVE Hindu identity then ? COWARDS..from my Hindu faith
Our Hindu folks have become so much coward who can only type big words...and so easy to blame some community esp Muslims because it takes a real man to tackle the problem not kids like you. You find most convenient to blame the weakest person in your society (blame Muslims and you kill the Sikhs) but when it comes to doing a real mans job like stopping raping in Delhi or false voting in Bengal you see the goondas and flee your Hindu a$$. can you stop Thackeray Shiv Sena party when they were beating up Hindu Biharis and North Indian vegetable sellers who were poor street vendors trying to feed their family and earn a living. WERE THEY NOT HINDUS WHEN SHIV SENA KILLED THEm. can you stop hindus being killed by Bengali Hindus in assam just for entering the state. WERE SIKHS NOT bloody PATRIOTS WHEN JAGDISH TYTLER HAD THEM BURNT ON TYRES IN FRONT OF SMALL CHILDREN and the whole HINDU BRAVE PEOPLE WERE WATCHING THE TAMASHA. Where was your BRAVE Hindu identity then ? COWARDS..you quote scriotures and abuse other religions BUT shame me for my Hindu ancestry
RE:We watch Tamasha and shift Blame on others
by Tathagatha Mukherjee on Jun 05, 2008 11:06 PM Permalink
Thanks for agreeing Anir. You are embracing truth against the tyranny of lies
RE:We watch Tamasha and shift Blame on others
by anir on Jun 05, 2008 11:11 PM Permalink
Tyranny of lies...your ansestors seemed taught it well to you.
In that respect they seem to have done a good job...
RE:We watch Tamasha and shift Blame on others
by Tathagatha Mukherjee on Jun 05, 2008 11:37 PM Permalink
ayyyyyoooo tambee..ayyyo. i am on same side as you SAAR. I want real terrorist brutally tortured. But no abusing innocents Saar. And police immediately capture some innocent Saar and blasts happen again and again Saar. That is adharma SAAR..just catching and blaming somebody or God or whole religion just because police ate money or incompetent to capture real killers.
RE:We watch Tamasha and shift Blame on others
by Tathagatha Mukherjee on Jun 06, 2008 12:11 AM Permalink
SAAR...I AM NOT TALKING OF USA OR ISRAEL OR RUSSIA...SAAR I AM TALKING HOW TO PREVENT IN FUTURE IN India. ESTABLISH JUSTICE AND CORRUPT FREE LAW for all economic strata not just for rich naa Saar... EVEN IF I SING VANDE MATARAM BLODDY 100 TIMES A DAY...will it bring back my dead sikh citizens?? Just use them for fighting in our army and thrown them..hindu baniya ? This whole khalistan issue could have been avoided if our hindu priests had just said "Sorry" and handed over Jagdish Tytler and Bhagwan Dass and hanged the. They are not great hindu saints anyway..just dirty netas.
Our Hindu folks have become so much coward who can only type big words...and so easy to blame some community esp Muslims because it takes a real man to tackle the problem not kids like you on the board. You find most convenient to blame the weakest person in your society (blame Muslims and Xtians and kill the Sikhs and not prosecute the guilty who roam free) but when it comes to doing a real mans job like stopping raping in Delhi or false voting in Bengal you see the goondas and flee your Hindu a$$. can you stop Thackeray Shiv Sena party when they were beating up Hindu Biharis and North Indian vegetable sellers who were poor street vendors trying to feed their family and earn a living. WERE THEY NOT HINDUS WHEN SHIV SENA KILLED THEm. can you stop hindus being killed by Bengali Hindus in assam just for entering the state. WERE SIKHS NOT bloody PATRIOTS WHEN JAGDISH TYTLER HAD THEM BURNT ON TYRES IN FRONT OF SMALL CHILDREN and the whole HINDU BRAVE PEOPLE WERE WATCHING THE TAMASHA. Where was your BRAVE Hindu identity then ? COWARDS..from my Hindu faith
RE:Are Hindus becoming cowards ?
by Ramesh Anand on Jun 05, 2008 10:49 PM Permalink
Raj Thakere etc did not kill or beat Hindus.It is the propaganda spread by people like you.They beat up the Bangladeshis who illigally migrated to Maharastra.you can confirm it from any suferer or the one who got the beating.
RE:Are Hindus becoming cowards ?
by Tathagatha Mukherjee on Jun 05, 2008 10:52 PM Permalink
SAAR...he beat up North Indians Saar. Everbody knows. read the news. Even threatened Amitabh Bachchan and mole-st Jaya? This is our Hindu pride become Saar ...
RE:Are Hindus becoming cowards ?
by Tathagatha Mukherjee on Jun 05, 2008 10:55 PM Permalink
BJP is only eating money Saar. Advani changing color and doing ratha yatra but ate all the money for the rath naked. Where is that Golden Rath ? In his backyard SAAR ? Once praising Jinnah, once threatening muslim innocents, once the devil once the angel...Why shift the blame Saar ? Become positive SAAR and love innocents of all religions...
RE:Are Hindus becoming cowards ?
by PKN on Jun 05, 2008 10:55 PM Permalink
Frankly Tathagatha Mukherji ( Islamic Version )
Some of the points that you make are not too bad ! Then why do you need to hide behind behind someone else name ?
You can understand a misguided illiterate Jihadis who puts country made bombs on bicycles and then vanish before they explode and kill innocent bystanders! But since you are making ,atleast what you consider a sensible point, why are you hiding when you do it .
You attempt to impersonate a Hindu would have worked if you got your pronouns right!
This is not a facist state - say what you have to say without having to hide behind someone elses name and by pretending to be Hindu!
RE:Are Hindus becoming cowards ?
by Tathagatha Mukherjee on Jun 06, 2008 12:32 AM Permalink
SAAR...I AM NOT TALKING OF USA OR ISRAEL OR RUSSIA...SAAR I AM TALKING HOW TO PREVENT IN FUTURE IN India. ESTABLISH JUSTICE AND CORRUPT FREE LAW for all economic strata not just for rich naa Saar... EVEN IF I SING VANDE MATARAM BLODDY 100 TIMES A DAY...will it bring back my dead sikh citizens?? Just use them for fighting in our army and thrown them..hindu baniya ? This whole khalistan issue could have been avoided if our hindu priests had just said "Sorry" and handed over Jagdish Tytler and Bhagwan Dass and hanged them. They are not great hindu saints anyway..just our own dirty netas who were all Hindu.
Hinduism is critical to the fabric of India, as are all the other cultures and religions that inhabit this land and frame the imagination of this nation. It will require considerable effort on our part to conceive a secular nation where religion is indeed separate from the integrity of the state, where pluralism guarantees rights and respect to the religious and non-religious alike. Every Hindu and every citizen must denounce that to be Indian is to be Hindu, challenge assertions that a secular constitution is anti-Hindu, and refute the call for a Hindu nation in India as anti-national. Patriotism and nationalism demand that all social, political and religious groups work for an India free of disenfranchisement, institutionalised violence, corruption and rampant inequities. We cannot permit India’s secular and democratic fabric to be irreparably compromised. The politics of segregation and hate cannot determine the century before us.
RE:Hindus should also accept blame
by JGN on Jun 05, 2008 10:39 PM Permalink
This sort of arrogance is the basic reason for the rise of militant hinditva. India is a secular democratic country. Our PM is a Sikh, the Super PM is an Itaian Christian, VP is a Muslim and there are any number of persons from all religions in various positions. Why do you callit "hindu regime" ????
RE:Hindus should also accept blame
by Tathagatha Mukherjee on Jun 05, 2008 10:42 PM Permalink
but voters all mostly majority Hindu right ? why shift blame Saar
RE:RE:Hindus should also accept blame
by JGN on Jun 05, 2008 10:48 PM Permalink
No shifting of blame. Continue with terrorism and/or support for terrorism and enjoy the courtsey of RSS, BJP, etc. All the best.
RE:Hindus should also accept blame
by Ramesh Anand on Jun 05, 2008 10:56 PM Permalink
the Hindu voters have been divided intentionally into castes,region,language.where as muslim voters though 20% are united and vote enmass for the one who is anti Hindu.When Hindus fight between themselves,the Ghee is added by Jehadis.Jehadis want united forum with Dalits, with OBCs,with Sikhs but not with Hindus.Maharastra's episode,even the muslims support Raj Thakere,because it suits their disigns of dividing Hindus.Thanks to BJP making special efforts to unite.Thanks to RSS who is exposing these nefarious disigns to th e society.things will sort out by 2009-2010.Wait and watch please
RE:Hindus should also accept blame
by Tathagatha Mukherjee on Jun 05, 2008 11:21 PM Permalink
wait and watch as politicians eat more money, never build roads and you will still be blaming muslims or xtians for poor roads...while your children grow in filth...i feel sad for you
RE:teach right islam to youth
by JGN on Jun 05, 2008 10:41 PM Permalink
Are you man enough to do that? About 15 years back, one could see hardly a handful of burqa clad women in most of the Kerala towns but now you can see only a handful of muslim women witout burqua. During a recent visit to Kerala I was really surprised about this (for Kerala's being one of the most literate and progressive society)!
RE:teach right islam to youth
by Tathagatha Mukherjee on Jun 05, 2008 11:31 PM Permalink
wait and watch as politicians eat more money, never build roads and you will still be blaming muslims or xtians for poor roads...while your children grow in filth...i feel sad for you
IT IS A FACT THAT ALL THE JEHAD/TERRORISM HAS BEEN SPONSORED BY INDIAN MUSLIMS OR AT THE MOST BY THE EARST-WHILE INDIAN MUSLIMS(NOW CALLED PAKISTANIS AND BANGLADESHIS).WHETHER IT WAS WTO OR LONDON TRAIN BLASTS OUR MUSLIMS HAD A VERY BIG HAND.ALL WHAT IS HAPPENING IN INDIA-MUMBIA BOMB BLASTS(TWICE),VARANASI SANKATMOCHAN BLASTS,AKSHARDHAM BLAST,RAGHUNATH TEMPLE BLSTS(THRICE),VAISHNODEVI BLASTS OR KILLINGS,PAHALGAON KILLINGS,ALIGARH KILLINGS,MAO KILLINGS OR AGRA KILLINGS WERE PLANNED AND EXECUTED BY INDIAN MUSLIMS,THE PRODUCT OF BARIELLY AND DEOBAND.IT IS A FASHION TO THROW THE BLAIM ON PAKISTANI MUSLIMS,AS IF OURS ARE 'DHOODH KE NAHAAYE HUWE.'
RE:Jehadi Islam is like the birds of Jatinga
by JGN on Jun 05, 2008 10:08 PM Permalink
Mr. Tathagata Mukherjee, ll the muslims should read "A Thousan Splendid Suns" by Khaled Hosseini to understand what their Islamic utopia really means. He is narratig the story of Afghanistan under the Taliban and its aftermath. Living in a secular democratic country like India, they cannot understand what it means.
RE:Jehadi Islam is like the birds of Jatinga
by mohamed on Jun 05, 2008 10:12 PM Permalink
i ahve a lot of hindu friends. they are not ignorant like you. i hate ignorance and people do hate them and thats what we are doing culling all ignorants...;).
RE:Jehadi Islam is like the birds of Jatinga
by JGN on Jun 05, 2008 10:19 PM Permalink
Mohammed, the muslim are not culling ignorants but are carrying out your religious duy as enjoined on them by their holy-books.
These igorant kafirs are just preventing you from carrying out the religious duty and availing rewards in the life here-after!!!!!!!!!What a pityful condition.
RE:RE:Jehadi Islam is like the birds of Jatinga
by Tathagatha Mukherjee on Jun 05, 2008 10:44 PM Permalink
EVEN HINDUS HAVE VIOLENT EXAMPLES IN BHAGVAD GEETA ...But we call it doing religious duty for Dharma then right ?
RE:RE:RE:Jehadi Islam is like the birds of Jatinga
by JGN on Jun 05, 2008 10:50 PM Permalink
No sane hindu will kill the followers of other religion telling that their "holy book" says so. The hindus do not swear by "one book" le the muslims or christians. That is the basic difference.
RE:RE:RE:RE:Jehadi Islam is like the birds of Jatinga
by Omprakash Kumar on Jun 05, 2008 11:46 PM Permalink
One book or three books...Hindus have committed the most inhuman acts too..Maoist killings, Nepal killings, Sikhs being burnt alive, Gujjar violence Assam ethnic cleansing...all done by Hindus naa Saar?
Salman Rushdie wrote something against Mohamad in a book published in Britain ,not in India,Muslims started beating and insulting Hindus of India,even when Indian govt had banned this book much before it was released for international market.What is this.What type of these Muslims are Indian,and what type of this humanitarianism is this.In which dictionary,this behaviour of Muslim is called Bhai Chaara or Ganga-Jamuni Tehzeeb.On the other side there are innumberable instance where Hindus have shown example of friendship and brotherhood with Muslims.Hindus crave for the indulgence of Muslims in the country's activites.The biggest exammple is that partition took place o the basis of religion.muslims were 22% but were given 33% of land.Out of 22%,only 15% muslims went to Pakistan and 7% stayed back,and they are now 14% in India.Is it not soft corner in Hindus for their Muslims.On the other hand,there were 20% hindus in west and 30% in east Pakistan.Now there are not even1% and 9%.What does it amount to.But not the fault of muslims.They have been tought like this -Darul Islam and Darul harab.That is why cleansing in J&K and other places of UP and Bengla and Kerala.
The solution probably lies in banning Madrasas and teaching of those portions of quran which instigate violence and hatred.That does not mean if there are such hatred for Muslims in Hindus or Christians or Sikhs religious books,they should not be banned.They should be banned first and then the Muslim.
RE:MUSLIMS-3
by Rupakshi on Jun 05, 2008 10:13 PM Permalink
When the king of Turkey abolished the burkhas, Muslims of India went on rampage and in Kerala they burnt Hindu homes. I read satanic verses, in fact Rushdee was more critical of Hindu beliefs than that of Muslims. But these guys went after innocent Hindus in Bomaby. Just banning something will not change irrationality in to rationality. The whole psyche has to change. What is use of the so many great and good Muslims coming and saying Islam means peace and trying to change the historical facts. In the action they have a responsibility to work with their Nonmuslim brothers towards achieving that goal.
RE:MUSLIMS-3
by Tathagatha Mukherjee on Jun 05, 2008 10:36 PM Permalink
Hindus also killed Sikhs in 1984. Jagdisn Tytler and Bhagwan Dass were held responsible by sikh victims. All were Hindus? Shame Shame...Hindus are killing in Mombai if they from Bihar. Even Vegetable Vendors.
RE:MUSLIMS-3
by JGN on Jun 05, 2008 10:45 PM Permalink
Tathagatha Mukherjee (duplicate), the Anti-sikh riots had nothing to do with any religion. It was sponored by the most "secular" party in India.
RE:MUSLIMS-3
by Omprakash Kumar on Jun 05, 2008 11:50 PM Permalink
But is agree with Mukherjees point...we cannot deny that Jagdish tytler and Bhagwan Dass who organized sikh genocide and staunch Hindus and not atheist?
RE:RE:MUSLIMS-3
by Tathagatha Mukherjee on Jun 06, 2008 01:03 AM Permalink
Google is not even helping me prepare my daily Saambaar SAAR? Why always saying Google Google Saar ? Just same people writing in Google naa? I have to still buy the daal naaa Saar ? Got the point...garbage in garbage out naa