india should go for war against nepal, butan, korea, mangolia.. then only china PM will come to india finaly pakistan will stop terrorism.. so this is the process
RE:Hindus and Muslims amaze me
by YLA on Jun 05, 2008 05:33 PM Permalink
I have no idea what u r talking first of all their is no such thing written to kill kafirs it was only for that time when the captured makka not all times i have no idea why u people target this things. Secondly what are u talking u gave what can u give any one sorry brother don't mistake me it is the lord who gives every thing to every body c cannot hold u r breath nor u could take u r own breath so where does it comes u gave minority, Pakistan or what else u r talking. Lets forget that all come to consulsion who ever does this terror act is not a Muslim first of all as no Muslim can kill an ant forget about a human how can he blow up others he has to answer this question on the day of judgment and i am sure our beloved prophet will not accept this man as he has not only brought the name of islam down but even the whole community which he has no right. I hope u got it please take back u r words as they have no meaning.
RE:Hindus and Muslims amaze me
by SuperPower India on Jun 05, 2008 05:38 PM Permalink
Rupakshi, You wrote rightly. Its thought provoking for all Hindus and come out from the appeasement or tolerance of other religions. At least they shd not criticise their own righteousness.
RE:Hindus and Muslims amaze me
by raj bhai on Jun 05, 2008 05:18 PM Permalink
we have this country we can do anything here,the fact is that we are corrupt to the hilt,wat we have done for india,ask yourself,if u get a chance u will throw or myself will garbage on our neighbours house,dont talk big.
RE:terrorist
by sudeep on Jun 05, 2008 05:19 PM Permalink
lack of education. since the childhood they are educated like this. well it's not true for all.. thats why we use misguided ppl. they do this in the disguise of religious education and thats why the whole community get blame.
RE:RE:terrorist
by Koduvayur on Jun 05, 2008 05:39 PM Permalink
Vijay?? The maoists have no religion and LTTE is not full of Hindus. Have some common sence before you write anything. You seems to be a kid in this forum.
RE:Good Education
by Syed Khaja on Jun 05, 2008 05:31 PM Permalink
This type of communal feelings makes muslims more heart. Why you are thinking that all terrorists are muslims. What about Naxalism, what about North East rebels are doing, don't bring the religion into the foolishness of somebody. Give very hard punishment to every terrorist regardless of their religion and cause.
RE:Only way to save India
by sudeep on Jun 05, 2008 05:13 PM Permalink
tarrif nahi kar raha.. bina kuch soche bolne par problem hain.. deemag ho to bolo nahi to chup raho.. kam se kam bewkoof ho ye to pata nahi chalega.
RE:Only way to save India
by javeed on Jun 05, 2008 05:20 PM Permalink
i would like to say u 1 thing,innocent people do exist in all the religion so why u want to attack innocent muslims.fight with people who r on wrong foot,insha allah i will help u to eliminate those cowards.lets protect our bharat mahan,tak care.
RE:Only way to save India
by Fact on Jun 05, 2008 05:28 PM Permalink
Dear Ravi The Indian security official has not prove any case against those who are arrested so far including(Mumbai blast, Hyderabad blast, Malegaoun blast, Ajmeer Blast )they are all suspected. firs asked them prove.
RE:RE:Only way to save India
by Fact on Jun 05, 2008 05:40 PM Permalink
Dear Ravi The Indian security official has not prove any case against those who are arrested so far including(Mumbai blast, Hyderabad blast, Malegaoun blast, Ajmeer Blast )they are all suspected. firs asked them prove. And they can’t prove because this is conspiracy ……. If it is true asked them to prove in honorable court
RE:Kargil Fact - Just Published in TOI
by Manish Mishra on Jun 05, 2008 05:48 PM Permalink
NDA did right during KARGIL. There were various reasons not crossing LoC. 1. PAK is having nuclear weapons. Only if Mumbai got targeted, India would have lost its next FEW years developement. 2. As per TASKAND pack, India will not be first crossing LoC. If gov allows AF to enter PoK then that would have been denial of PACT. 3. Except russia, none of countries were supportive. 4. US is trying to setup his ARMY base in south ASIA. If India would have crossed LoC, definately US ARMY would had come to SOUTH asia to help his friend and hence set his ARMY base. 5. Even if India would have crossed and freed some part of PoK, only few part of total capture can be retrieved as MOST of LAND of PoK is occupied by CHINA. 6. India was developing at very good pace (8-9% GDP) and none WAR supports this kind of growth. 7. Not attacking to PAK made Indian outlook prominent. It was PAK justifing always that they have not attacked. Hence, it lost its respect and it have been proved UNFAITHFUL country. 8. Crossing PoK would have invited PAK to directly involve in WAR which might have been provoked some riots. Remember, in KARGIL PAK was involved in WAR indirectly. They were supporting to their ARMY but never accepted that their ARMY was involved. 9. BANGLADESH would have got up agianst India being a earlier part of PAK.
And remember, there is bureaucratic panel which decides best not a political party. I know NDA did what was right and KASHMIR, we will get it if not now then in fut
RE:RE:Kargil Fact - Just Published in TOI
by harendra rathore on Jun 10, 2008 12:57 PM Permalink
Dear Manish,
your all points are well and Genuine,No doubt at all. off course, passion of NDA Created the good will of India internationally. but it is not a question of crossing LoC are fear to Mumbai.It's a question of defence in our own home. So, the invadors must be punished, they are not entitled to get the safe passage, as they get it and they won. Constitutionally, The PoK does not belong to Pak,hence pak can not involve in direct war against us At Pok borders. that's why,he always use the words "kabayalees,Infiltrators etc" in stead of his own Soldiers. but in fact, they are their soldiers. In my openion, we have to dare to punish them itherwise it will represent our country as a "nation with weak willpower"
the NDA Govt.Made the same mistake, while dealing with the Talibaanee in Plane Hijeck issue. After Getting our plane and passangers back.Since, none of nations (Except three) has recognize Talibaani govt., We must attack the Talibaanees by our Air wing And missile powers to teach the lession to them via Pok Air Borders, That is ours legally. ( The American Army done the Same very well without any legal Claim.)
our Land borders also touch the Afganistan boundry at Pok. we must claim it, when the America Made a group of countries noubouring the Afganistan for resolution.but NDA didin't claimed.It indirectly hints the pak that America is not recognising the Kashmir as the integrel part of India.
RE:RE:Kargil Fact - Just Published in TOI
by YASAR IMRAN on Jun 05, 2008 05:59 PM Permalink
Army Generals had planned a massive reciprocate gesture on Kargil, but NDA leaders pulled out. This is the fact given by my military friend, who happened to be part of Kargil operation and survived throughout operation.
The then NDA government had turned down Army Generals plan, and that caused extensive losses.
RE:RE:Kargil Fact - Just Published in TOI
by harendra rathore on Jun 10, 2008 01:05 PM Permalink
Cont-02
After Heroshima & Nagashakee, None Country can dare to use Nuclear Wapons, and if any one dare, He will be punished by the rest of the world. Mumbai is already Suffered by attacks of Terrirists. We can not asume or admit any loss of our citizens. neither a sigle one nor in huge of the same. But it can not be our weaknesss. See America, After loosing his 5000 Citizens on 9/11, They protected their citizens well alongwith war on Terror.
So I think, being in the way of Strong nation, We have to Step out some bold decision for defending our citizens, borders, economy ant each and every thing that belong to INDIA.
RE:RE:Kargil Fact - Just Published in TOI
by harendra rathore on Jun 10, 2008 01:03 PM Permalink
Dear Manish,
your all points are well and Genuine,No doubt at all. off course, passion of NDA Created the good will of India internationally. but it is not a question of crossing LoC are fear to Mumbai.It's a question of defence in our own home. So, the invadors must be punished, they are not entitled to get the safe passage, as they get it and they won. Constitutionally, The PoK does not belong to Pak,hence pak can not involve in direct war against us At Pok borders. that's why,he always use the words "kabayalees,Infiltrators etc" in stead of his own Soldiers. but in fact, they are their soldiers. In my openion, we have to dare to punish them itherwise it will represent our country as a "nation with weak willpower"
the NDA Govt.Made the same mistake, while dealing with the Talibaanee in Plane Hijeck issue. After Getting our plane and passangers back.Since, none of nations (Except three) has recognize Talibaani govt., We must attack the Talibaanees by our Air wing And missile powers to teach the lession to them via Pok Air Borders, That is ours legally. ( The American Army done the Same very well without any legal Claim.)
our Land borders also touch the Afganistan boundry at Pok. we must claim it, when the America Made a group of countries noubouring the Afganistan for resolution.but NDA didin't claimed.It indirectly hints the pak that America is not recognising the Kashmir as the integrel part of India.
RE:Kargil Fact - Just Published in TOI
by Godfather on Jun 05, 2008 05:05 PM Permalink
thanks for preaching hatred against BJP..But whom should we support Congress which provides santury to Muslim terrorists or SP which green signals for SIMI activities....By the way Kashmir issue was a gift by Nehru for which India would keep bleeding for centuries....
RE:Kargil Fact - Just Published in TOI
by YASAR IMRAN on Jun 05, 2008 05:10 PM Permalink
Never preaching hatred to BJP. It is very simple matter came to TOI today. The "dhool-mul" action was the then government should be blamed. I am just telling you. On the otherhand, Terrorist has no specific religion, because Delhi Jama Masjid was targeted, Malegaon Mosque too and Hyderabad Mosque as well, the why blame a particular community, Muslim. In Jaipur, at least 25 muslim men,women and children died due to blast. Don't you know???
RE:Kargil Fact - Just Published in TOI
by leonidas on Jun 05, 2008 05:09 PM Permalink
su-30 MKIs were not inducted at that time....mirages were used...look for operation safed sagar by IAF..
RE:RE:Kargil Fact - Just Published in TOI
by YASAR IMRAN on Jun 05, 2008 05:12 PM Permalink
SU-30s were already inducted, but not used. Maybe MKIs version not, but Air Force used after severe jolt to Infantary.
RE:Kargil Fact - Just Published in TOI
by Godfather on Jun 05, 2008 05:13 PM Permalink
our fighter planes were within their radar range and unless their was a full fleged war the use of fighter planes would have costed India dearly...if u remember some of indian jets were damaged without fight and one of the pilot was captured ...Loss of life Bihar regiment personnels were due to bad military plannings and u cannot blame the govt for it
RE:RE:Kargil Fact - Just Published in TOI
by YASAR IMRAN on Jun 05, 2008 05:56 PM Permalink
Yes, bad military planning by NDA leaders who frequently disrupted knowledgeable military generals to properly plan, whereas they "inserted" their idea and hence tremendous loss.
RE:Kargil Fact - Just Published in TOI
by harendra rathore on Jun 05, 2008 05:13 PM Permalink
you r right Mr. Y.I.,
Defence always needs bold and aggresive desicions. it's not like that "some one attack to another with entering in his house and that another do not even dare to use his full capacity for throwing him out.
RE:RE:Kargil Fact - Just Published in TOI
by YASAR IMRAN on Jun 05, 2008 06:02 PM Permalink
Yes, Harendra Rathor bhai, Army Generals were not allowed by NDA government to act according to their wishes, but forced by NDA to do according to government's choice. You will re-call, one Sikh General spoken up and he was sacked (name I don't remember, but yes he blatantly blamed NDA).
