Probably someone got tired of the assignment of chasing/tracking Bilal so they wrote him for dead. Now this is being used by ISI and Bilal to carry out his activities. In any case it doesnt matter because Bilal is replaceable and human life has little value in the subcontinent. God bless us
RE:dubai
by ARH on Jun 03, 2008 03:14 PM Permalink
Dear sushmita,donot talk nonsense,if you are really serious to know about the region,contact me mail2arh@rediffmail.com.UAE is different country and custodian of shrine is the king of saudi arabia.How he can have control on UAE?
RE:dubai
by Gautam Sinha on Jun 03, 2008 03:21 PM Permalink
rightly said - "seems to be" educated that is why an irrelevant defamatory post of generalization Which place in the world is free of teh world's oldest trade? Why bother with such news?
RE:dubai
by JGN on Jun 03, 2008 03:20 PM Permalink
Ms. sushmita, Pl search for The Skpetics Annotated Bible. You can get category-wise verses like Absurdities, Contradictions, Hatred, Good-Stuff, etc from The Bible (both Old Testament and New Testament), The Quran and The Book of Mormon.
Also download and read The Necessity of Atheism by Dr. D.M. Brooks freely available at Project Gutenberg. Btw Project Gutenberg has a large number of good books that can be downloaded freely.
Also visit the web of "Actual Freedom - the thrid alternative" This is an alternative to organized religions and would give you a better understanding of human nature and the casues for the same.
RE:RE:dubai
by jahesh khan on Jun 03, 2008 04:25 PM Permalink
show us atleast one life in all sense. It should explain all like social life, family life, economics, politics. then we can say its a complete way life. ISLAM IS A COMPLETE WAY OF LIFE. Before criticising atleast read QURAN. Have u done it?
RE:RE:RE:dubai
by JGN on Jun 03, 2008 05:14 PM Permalink
ISLAM IS A COMPLETE WAY OF LIFE OR IS A COMPLETE WAY OF FOOLING? EVEN THOSE WHO FOUGHT BRAVELY ALONGWITH YOUR PROPHET STILL LIES BURIED AND WILL LIE BURIED FOR EVER. WHY DO YOU WANT TO FOOL YOURSELF?
THERE IS NO LIFE HERE-AFTER. EVERY THING ENDS HERE. ARE YOU AFRAID OF THAT THOUGHT?
RE:RE:RE:dubai
by JGN on Jun 03, 2008 05:22 PM Permalink
I have read the Quran and know for sure that it was the concoction of Mohammed to hoodwink his followers (with all those rewards in Paradise or cruel punishments in hell, etc). a major portion of Quran is devoted to what the "most merciful creator" would do to the non-believers!!!!!!!! The Allah described in the Quran seems to be more vengeful than a Las Vegas or an Italian mafia don.
RE:dubai
by jahesh khan on Jun 03, 2008 04:17 PM Permalink
what a pathetic u r. UAE and SAUDI ARABIA are 2 different nations. u r telling that MAKKA and MADINA are in UAE. IT is just like u say DELHI and MUMBAI are in PAKISTAN. See it shows how good are u in ur knowledge. i think u better stop writing if u dont know
RE:killed
by aasif on Jun 03, 2008 03:02 PM Permalink
aur koi kam nahi hai kya be,84 ki nahi aage ki soch inflation ke bare me soch,kya wahi purana ghisa pita raag laga diya
RE:killed
by JGN on Jun 03, 2008 03:16 PM Permalink
Mr.venkat, it was not only the Hindus but those belonging to other religions also who participated in the Anti-sikh riots and it was basically sponsored by a particular political party. Hinduism has nothing to do with that.
Btw are you old enough to remember the happenings in Punjab and Delhi for about 10 years prior to the anti-sikh riots? One of my friend (A South Indian hindu) who was working for Siemens in Punjab was shot dead by the terrorists. I am not justifying the anti-sikh riots but only emphasizing that it has no religious flavour.
RE:Think..
by sushmita on Jun 03, 2008 03:11 PM Permalink
they drove the hindu pandits out now kashmir has an overwhelming muslim majority and delhi has a pseudo secular government that sits quietly during ethnic cleansing of hindus.
they want to convert kashmir into an islamic area, with 100% muslims.
dont believe it ? most people cant look into the future. but look into the past.
afghanistan was a peaceful buddhist nation but their forefathers invaded the country they destroyed temples and idols the latest act of destruction was in bamiyan they forced buddhists out they killed them, forced them, ra**d their women they forcefully converted them they wiped out all traces of their religion today, the predominantly buddhist country has less than 0.1% buddhists.
what the moderate muslims have to realise is does 100% islam make a place a better place ? well, look at afghanistan and you know the answer
which is better for the women of your house ? afghanistan, or jaipur, delhi, mumbai, ahmedabad and bangalore ? which is better for your children ?
moderate muslims have to speak out they have to be louder than the jehadis moderate muslims have to solve this problem !!!
lets start frm the beginning. How many of hindu bros and sis knows what ALLAH means. Who is ALLAH? Let me see ur answers.how good hindus knows about GOD
RE:Simple Ques: how many of hindus knows what allah means?
by sushmita on Jun 03, 2008 03:04 PM Permalink
jahesh khan
its wrong for some hindus to write derogatory comments about allah
moderate muslims like you have to speak out against terrorism to prevent such generalisation
after all jaipur, hyderabad, ahmedabad, delhi and mumbai with 20% muslims are better for you, your wife, sister, and children than afghanistan which has 99% muslims.
RE:RE:Simple Ques: how many of hindus knows what allah means?
by aasif on Jun 03, 2008 03:07 PM Permalink
he will not talk about jehad in the name of islam,insted of it he is diverting the topic
RE:RE:RE:Simple Ques: how many of hindus knows what allah means?
by jahesh khan on Jun 03, 2008 03:55 PM Permalink
dear here wat we talk is the basic topic. if discusion of GOD is over then only jihad and other topics come. so no comments. first ans or discuss this.u r the one who diverting frm the topic eraised.nobody knows abt answer.
RE:Simple Ques: how many of hindus knows what allah means?
by Khatas on Jun 04, 2008 09:49 AM Permalink
How can a war torn country be compared to in this context? do you mean to say, given the same paramaters and situation of Indian cities today are better than Kabul in general?
RE:RE:Simple Ques: how many of hindus knows what allah means?
by jahesh khan on Jun 03, 2008 04:00 PM Permalink
no its the duty of some hindus who is criticising islam and ALLAH. if criticising then they should know complete knowledge about wat they r talking about. wat i just asked basic simple question? See how many hindu brothers could answer it. So think, R u people have the right to criticise about these matters? U ask some questions about ur hindu laws.u can see lot of muslims will answer it properly.
RE:Simple Ques: how many of hindus knows what allah means?
by aasif on Jun 03, 2008 02:53 PM Permalink
i don`t know and i don`twant to know ,but whaat i know for sure that in the name of allah,all muslim terrerist justify there inhumen act, where allah come in boom blast why insha allah in all zehadi act why insha allah in muredering innocent ppl why, and please for allah sake don`t say that islam is the other name of peace
RE:Simple Ques: how many of hindus knows what allah means?
by jahesh khan on Jun 03, 2008 03:00 PM Permalink
I pity u. if u dont know learn and speak. if some body tells about india who dont know where india is located, and if he says india is a state of US. Will u agree? will u agree his knowledge is correct?
YOU ask any muslims WHO is RAM/BRAHMA/VISHNU/SHIVA is they can answer it.And What is OM? muslims(one who obeys GOD) will answer it.
Again asking, answer my dear hindus bros. WHO IS ALLAH?
RE:RE:Simple Ques: how many of hindus knows what allah means?
by jahesh khan on Jun 03, 2008 03:52 PM Permalink
the answer is no.if they did, then its wrong as per quran.(u should be sure all these done by real muslims.bcos any boby can wear a mask and read something and take a video on it and suppy to others in the name of somebody.but as per what we see its not correct.) but we are not the decision maker. ITs the GOD who will decide who will go to paradise and hell.its not U or ME.
RE:Simple Ques: how many of hindus knows what allah means?
by JGN on Jun 03, 2008 02:58 PM Permalink
Mr.jahesh khan, so far as I know Allah is the Arabic word for God. Are you an Arabic? Why are you worshipping the Arabian god? Why the West Asian gods are jealous(Jewish, Christian and Islam - each proclaiming that their god is only true and all others are false).
Btw there is no conclusive evidence for the existence of any god (of any religion out of 2000 odd existing in the wrold now). What more you want to know??
RE:RE:Simple Ques: how many of hindus knows what allah means?
by jahesh khan on Jun 03, 2008 03:04 PM Permalink
see u have a rasist GOD. Islam doesnt have GOD concept like that. ARABIAN GOD. Funny... See u people even cannot answer a simple question. what a pathetic condition of hindus are. UR one answer is correct . ARABIC word for GOD. then u lost. went for RASCISCT mind. Does the GOD has regional presents? for each nations different GOD? IS that ur concept of GOD? Then i have to ask another question: WHO IS GOD? and WHAT IS GOD?
RE:Simple Ques: how many of hindus knows what allah means?
by JGN on Jun 03, 2008 03:07 PM Permalink
God is just a concept. Put the wrods "animal worship" in any interent search engine and read the result to understand how the system of worship originated. I do not beleive in any god. So don't try to preach to be about any god.
RE:Simple Ques: how many of hindus knows what allah means?
by jahesh khan on Jun 03, 2008 03:48 PM Permalink
then its over. so u r neither a hindu nor a muslim. not even a religious beliver. u have another kind of religion- a way of living. so no more talks with u. u r out of this discussion
RE:Simple Ques: how many of hindus knows what allah means?
by JGN on Jun 03, 2008 03:12 PM Permalink
Mr.jahesh khan, pl download and read The Necessity of Atheism by Dr. D.M. Brooks freely available at "Project Gutenberg" to know about the fallacy in beleiving in some god.
RE:moderate muslims - rise !!!
by jahesh khan on Jun 03, 2008 03:10 PM Permalink
hai dear, what is the condition of INDIA before 1947? was there an invasion happened b4? did we indians forgot history? AFGANISTAN had an invasion frm soviet union? they fought for their freedom? is that wrong? if thats wrong wat our freedom fighters did was wrong? subashji, bagat singh - were they wrong? tell me dear. Afganisthan was facing problms with warlords,ISLAMISTs, nationalists etc. that made dissintegrated. its not muslims(one who obeys only GOD) who made problems. But others(US,britain etc) dont like nation to rise wat afganis really needs.
RE:RE:RE:moderate muslims - rise !!!
by jahesh khan on Jun 03, 2008 03:33 PM Permalink
What is invasion means? Invasion should not make others get disturbed? invaders should give rights for country's citizens. they should do justice to the people, they must never exploit people. even if now britain invaded india and if they rule very peacefuly and better than our politician (rulers) now, which one people prefer. our rulers or others? ofcourse it will be britains. ok im just asking u a possibility thats all. now let me ask u one thing. u told about mughals. how many freedom fighting happened in india during that period. they ruled nearly 1000 years. can u just show me one incident like happened during british times?how many riots happened during that period? british just ruled for 200 yrs. see what happened in india? was there any freedom fighting happened during that period? were people against them. where they not exploiting citizens? Ill never say all rulers of mughals are good.first of all they never been part of islam.that is the truth. learn more about them dear. but one thing is there. they never made exploit common people like british invasion.if not agreeing go and ask historians.
RE:moderate muslims - rise !!!
by Money tvs on Jun 03, 2008 08:28 PM Permalink
well well look at his opportunism. when people fight, they are not muslims. when they have apprent peace, then it is a muslim nation. man with a serpent tongue i.e a tongue forked at the end and talks two ways, whichever suits him best.
RE:RE:moderate muslims - rise !!!
by ARH on Jun 03, 2008 02:45 PM Permalink
WHO CREATED THE MESS IN AFGANISTAN?HAVE YOU NOT HEARD ABOUT SAUDI ARABIA 100% ISLAM,NO PROBLEM THERE.WOMEN ARE MORE SAFE HERE THAN IN INDIA.
RE:RE:RE:moderate muslims - rise !!!
by JGN on Jun 03, 2008 02:53 PM Permalink
Mr. ARH, I was told by a person who visited Saudi Arabia recently that if a hardcore Marxist Communist from India visits Saudi, he will get transformed into a hardcore RSS activist!!!!!! Should I say anything more??
RE:moderate muslims - rise !!!
by Bharath Kumar on Jun 03, 2008 02:58 PM Permalink
Read "Princess" Novel. Understand how barbaric they are.. especially for women...
RE:moderate muslims - rise !!!
by JGN on Jun 03, 2008 03:23 PM Permalink
Not only in Dubai but in Bahrain also such activities are continuing!!!!!!!!!!
RE:moderate muslims - rise !!!
by sushmita on Jun 03, 2008 02:47 PM Permalink
saudi arabia women are safer ?
just because they cant voice their opinion and you cant hear the screams doesnt mean they are safer
who are you to decide which place is safer for them ? let them decide !!!!
a safe golden cage is still a cage !!!!!!!!!! how would you love being in a golden room with fruits and air conditioning, but not allowed to move out of the room for the rest of your life ?
RE:moderate muslims - rise !!!
by JGN on Jun 03, 2008 02:51 PM Permalink
Mr. ARH, a woman cannot get even a driving licence in Saudi Arabia nor can she go out without a male ralative for company. What safety are you talking about? Have you heard of the "Qatiff girl" (a gang rape victim) who was awarded 200 lashes just because she was found in the car of her ex-boy friend?
Pl read the book, A Thousnad Splendid Suns by Khaled Hosseini to understand what your Islamic Utopia really means.
RE:RE:moderate muslims - rise !!!
by jahesh khan on Jun 03, 2008 03:17 PM Permalink
That is why women is more safer. if u can provide woman safe in india. prove it. allow them with full freedom as u r telling now in india. show me atleast one woman can walk alone in streets of india without any fear.I can agree upon it. and no woman should get rape. or any thing even fear shouldnot b there in their heart. u can see such things in saudi arabia. i have been saudi arabia. Then Y in india women cant protect themself? When more freedom allowed in UAE? then we more problems women face here.
RE:moderate muslims - rise !!!
by jahesh khan on Jun 03, 2008 04:14 PM Permalink
no i not admiting there is serious crimes. ill not say its crime free. thats wat i meant. but they r doing justice to their people. did u know recent survey. more happiest people are people from saudi arabia in all means. go and check gulf news. so if there is lot of crimes and other things how can it be happiest country. u r not comparing it with india. u simply bluff.amnesty report is written in a western prospective. they are complaing about woman cannot have a free sex, they cannot expose their flesh, no bars, no liquors, no cinema theotres, no brothels. rulers are not giving license for these. So they says no freedom. is this freedom? are these amnesty problem?
RE:moderate muslims - rise !!!
by JGN on Jun 03, 2008 03:49 PM Permalink
Do you know what is meant by the "silence of grave-yard" ? The situation in Islamic countries is like that. You are also admitting that there are serious crimes in Saudi. Are you aware that as per Amnesty Internatinal's report for 2007, Saudi, Iran and Pakistan are among the first five countries which carried out maximum number of execution of convicts (Saudi tops the list).
Even after practicing Islam religionf for more than 1400 years, Saudi in still infested with criminals. Then what good is your religion?
All religions were created by vested interests for controlling the masses and all of them have outlived their utility. So pl come out of the religious dogmas.
Life on planet earth is the only thing known to mankind. Enjoy that to the fullest extent possible without creating any problems for others (even if you cannot help them in any way).
RE:RE:RE:moderate muslims - rise !!!
by jahesh khan on Jun 03, 2008 03:36 PM Permalink
i never say it will never happened JGN. was the rates as happening in india or other nation. even though saudi is not a pure islamic state,tell me the condition of women. which one is better. now if u take in this whole world i found the crime rate is much lesser than other nations.its a truth.its a fact even if u r not ready to accept for the sake of argument.
RE:RE:moderate muslims - rise !!!
by ARH on Jun 03, 2008 02:58 PM Permalink
I DONOT NEED TO READ A BOOK FOR INFORMATION ABOUT SAUDI ARABIA.I HAVE BEEN HERE FOR 5 YEARS.HAVE YOU A HEARD A CABINET MINISTER HERE LIKE GEORGE FERNANDESE SPEECH ON ATROCITY ON PREGNANT WOMEN IN RIOT.WHAT HE SAID-IT IS COMMON IN RIOT THAT CRIMINALS DO. WHAT HAPPEND IN MUMBAI WITH NRI GIRLS WHEN FOUND WITH BF?
RE:moderate muslims - rise !!!
by ARH on Jun 03, 2008 02:51 PM Permalink
Have you ever been out from India? I guess no,not at all.Your perception is based on mis-information.Ofcourse prostitution,nude exposure to allure men are not allowed.Women are in every field here.
RE:RE:moderate muslims - rise !!!
by sushmita on Jun 03, 2008 03:02 PM Permalink
Several years after the collapse of communism, thousands of pros ti tut.es are still flocking to Dubai, the trade centre of the United Arab Emirates (UAE), from the countries of the former Soviet Union. And although pro.sti tut ion is illegal in the emirate, this appalling trade in human flesh is a high-profile activity in a region which hosts Islam's two holiest places - Makkah and Madinah. Even the self-appointed custodians of the shrines approve of the racket, travelling to Dubai to indulge themselves.
RE:RE:RE:moderate muslims - rise !!!
by jahesh khan on Jun 03, 2008 03:42 PM Permalink
what a pathetic u r. UAE and SAUDI ARABIA are 2 different nations. u r telling that MAKKA and MADINA is in UAE. IT is just like u say DELHI and MUMBAI is in PAKISTAN. See it shows how good are u in ur knowledge. i think u better stop writing if u dont know
RE:moderate muslims - rise !!!
by jahesh khan on Jun 03, 2008 04:02 PM Permalink
what a pathetic u r. UAE and SAUDI ARABIA are 2 different nations. u r telling that MAKKA and MADINA are in UAE. IT is just like u say DELHI and MUMBAI are in PAKISTAN. See it shows how good are u in ur knowledge. i think u better stop writing if u dont know
RE:RE:moderate muslims - rise !!!
by jahesh khan on Jun 03, 2008 03:20 PM Permalink
then y u want to wear semi dress. remove the whole dress and walk in street. Tell each men to control it. what ever it may u women cant stop doing it. its really funny that nobody should rape or get molested but they want to show without any problem. thats really funny. and blame is on MEN. easy thing.
All the hindus on this board who are speaking against muslim,once given power in politics will start licking shoes of muslim.See the hindu poltician in BJP/CONGRESS ETC.
RE:RE:HINDUS
by aasif on Jun 03, 2008 02:44 PM Permalink
ji han bhai saheb,hamari wholy book me likha hai,ye sab to jayaj hai,kazi saheb ne bhi madarse me bataya hai,we have already did with our sis,then we have came to this board
