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RE:Mr Khalid.... u have not responded.........why did mohammed marry his own son's wife.......??
by balaord on Jun 02, 2008 06:37 PM  Permalink
After reading this,Could you please eloborate on the differences between a real son and the adopted son?

Now this is my answer
Zainab was prophet cousin,whom he knew her all along.If Prophet Muhammed desired her,he wouldnt have married her too Zaid in the first place. You guys assume as if Prophet Muhamed came to know Zainab through his adopted son,the truth is it is He (Prophet) who arranged the marrage itself and it is because of this Zainab (PBUH) asked Prophet Muhammed to marry her after she divorced Zaid.
May peace and blessing be upon Zaid and the mother of belivers Zainab and Prophet.


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RE:RE:Mr Khalid.... u have not responded.........why did mohammed marry his own son's wife.......??
by Vivek Harry on Jun 02, 2008 06:43 PM  Permalink
mr. balaord, think for a moment, can you stoop so low as to adopt a son if you cannot treat him like a son, it is double insult to the poor fellow, then you will understand what Zaid would have felt

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by balaord on Jun 02, 2008 06:51 PM  Permalink
Mr.Vivek.There is a difference between fact and speculation.To assume that Zaid was too upset with Prophet Muhammed doesnt have even a semblance of Truth.Zaid was martyred in the cause Islam and Prophet in the battle of Muttah.
The love and affection between Prophet and his adopted son only grew ever stronger every second.It is legenadary in the history of Islam.
So please dont throw calumnies based on pure ignorance.

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by Vivek Harry on Jun 02, 2008 07:04 PM  Permalink
mr. balaord, if the relations between them were so cordial, then your prophet would not have threatened to divorce Aisha and Hafsa, it there in the Quran, what proof are you aksing us for, that means you are not aware of what there is in the Quran, there are hadith regarding this affair between Umar and Hafsa, why should we spoonfeed you, since being a imitator of your founder, you should know about these things

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by JGN on Jun 02, 2008 06:53 PM  Permalink
How she could have expressed her displeasure knowing fully well that her life itself was in the hands of Mohammed?

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by balaord on Jun 02, 2008 06:57 PM  Permalink
When ignorance is combined with bigorty,then the only way you can do is to resort to speculation.
Prove me that Ayesha was disappointed wife,then I will answer your question.
One,only has to look at the married life of Prophet and his wife Ayesha to realize how soulful and how compassionate they were towards each other

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by JGN on Jun 02, 2008 07:02 PM  Permalink
Mr. Balaord, Frist prove to me that The Quran was revealed by some most merciful creator. Then we can discuss the rest of the matter.


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by Vivek Harry on Jun 02, 2008 07:01 PM  Permalink
mr. balaord, why do not you marry your son's wife then

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by abhinav on Jun 02, 2008 06:40 PM  Permalink
why did he ban adoption then......???

see khalid one of u r true islamic scholar knows about it..u did not.....

anyway baloard...........why did he ban adoption then......??

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by balaord on Jun 02, 2008 06:46 PM  Permalink
There was no ban on adoption per se,but Islam is very categorical in its laws that is a adopted son can never become a true son.This doesnt prevent a adopted father to love the adopted son as much or more than his real son.But by law,the laws of inheritance doesnt apply to him.
When Zaid's actual parents came and wanted their son backmProphet Muhammed asked Zaid to go with them if he wishes so,but Zaid refused and asked her real parents to allow them to saty with Prophet Muhammed itself.Thats how the love and affection between the Prophet Muhammed and his adopted son.


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RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Mr Khalid.... u have not responded.........why did mohammed marry his own son's wife.......??
by balaord on Jun 02, 2008 07:00 PM  Permalink
You have missed the point.Though the laws of son doesnt apply to the adopted son,this doesnt prevent one from adopting (without have any legal bearing ofcourse).The proof is there in the life of Zaid itself,he didint go awasy from Prophet Muhammed.Till his death he was with his beloved adopted father.Please know Zaid was martyred in the cause of Islam and for the defence of his prophet.
Dont try to portray a disappointed or rebel Zaid.He is a noble man loved by Muhammed and loved muhammed much more.

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by Sadique on Jun 02, 2008 06:50 PM  Permalink
He did not ban adoption instead after that he banned such marriage which cud be mislead by others.......so that issue itself is lessons to all humankind to avoid any such relations....but u r still taking in negative ways......same for Bibi Ayesha as well the girl get married in 9 years it is true...but the same lady became 1st Muslim scholar woman in the time of darkness when woman was the only for house work and baby sitter....Role of Bibi Aayesha in Islam change the view towards women but still people believe that in Islam women's are only being raped or killed....

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by JGN on Jun 02, 2008 06:52 PM  Permalink
Mr. Sadique, you are giving misleading information. The first wife of Mohammed was a business woman (also 15 years older to him). Now a woman cannot get even a driving licence in Saudi Arabia nor can they go out without a male relationship for company. What a great progress!!!!!!!!

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by Sadique on Jun 02, 2008 07:23 PM  Permalink
I am not giving misleading information dude....Ofcourse first wife of Prophet Mohammed was Bibi Khadijaa she was buisness woman and first woman who accept islam(Bibi Aayesha was first scholar of Islam, please don't get confuse) ...Prophet marry with her when Prophet was 25 years and Khadija was a widow of 40 years which itslef lessons for widow marriage and not leave them to die in society or make sati...however Prophet leave with her till next 25 years as a single woman man...then Bibi khadijaa died...Prophet was 50 years old then and all later 5 marriages where either to expand Islam or to make gud relations with allies or to give shelter to widows...However I don't know why Saudi Arabiya has restrictions but the fact is woman can work (where man are not present), get educated with the Hijaab can rome outside as well......

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RE:RE:RE:Mr Khalid.... u have not responded.........why did mohammed marry his own son's wife.......??
by khalid raza on Jun 02, 2008 06:47 PM  Permalink
ABHINAV ITS NOT BANNED BUT THERE ARE SOME GUIDE LINES IN IT....LIKE HE'S NOT HAVING THE BLOOD RELATION WITH THE OTHER CHILD OF THE ADOPTER...SO IF THE ADOPTED ONE IS GIRL ....IT BECOMES NA MAHRAM(WITH ONE WHO CAN MARRY).....
ONLY THE PERSON HAVING BLOOD REALTION CANNOT MARRY AMONG THEM SELVES THEY ARE CALEED (MAHRAMS)


BUT I KNOW YOUR FILTHY MIND WONT GET THIS.....

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RE:RE:RE:RE:Mr Khalid.... u have not responded.........why did mohammed marry his own son's wife.......??
by Ravindra Dinanath Vartak on Jun 02, 2008 06:50 PM  Permalink
mR. khalid raza, are you aware that marriage among the sons of brothers and daughters of sisters (first cousins) are common among Indian Muslims? Are they not blood relations?

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by khalid raza on Jun 02, 2008 06:56 PM  Permalink
Ravindra...by blood relation it means those who are from your lineage and those fromwhose lineage you are!!!!!others one can marry....

and have you got information about the south indian dravidioan hindus who marry their sisters daughters....????

dont try to abuse the religion

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RE:RE:RE:RE:Mr Khalid.... u have not responded.........why did mohammed marry his own son's wife.......??
by abhinav on Jun 02, 2008 06:50 PM  Permalink
ha ha haaa........khalid u r reply is the answer......

so he banned adoption to be able to make his marriage with Zayed HARAM.......right......

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by balaord on Jun 02, 2008 07:00 PM  Permalink
You have missed the point.Though the laws of son doesnt apply to the adopted son,this doesnt prevent one from adopting (without have any legal bearing ofcourse).The proof is there in the life of Zaid itself,he didint go awasy from Prophet Muhammed.Till his death he was with his beloved adopted father.Please know Zaid was martyred in the cause of Islam and for the defence of his prophet.
Dont try to portray a disappointed or rebel Zaid.He is a noble man loved by Muhammed and loved muhammed much more.



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RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Mr Khalid.... u have not responded.........why did mohammed marry his own son's wife.......??
by balaord on Jun 02, 2008 06:55 PM  Permalink
Any things whihc bears a Arabic name becomes a source of quotation for you guys,thats why you people are oblivious to the science of Hadith lierature.
Most of the stories quoted by the orientalists are taken from books written 500 0r 600 years after the death of Muhammed ,known as Sira.
The authors of these books simply collected what ever they eard and they have confessed that in their books.
Muslims treat only Quran and Hadith (validated by Quran) as the authenttic source.

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RE:RE:Mr Khalid.... u have not responded.........why did mohammed marry his own son's wife.......??
by Star on Jun 02, 2008 06:57 PM  Permalink
Polygamy was the norm at the times of Ibrahim, Dawoud, Solayman, all known in the Bible to have been polygamists,,,,,,,

These fickle minded, brainwashed element just look at the seamingly weak points of our beloved Prophet.....

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RE:RE:RE:Mr Khalid.... u have not responded.........why did mohammed marry his own son's wife.......??
by Vivek Harry on Jun 02, 2008 06:59 PM  Permalink
you also can marry your son's wife

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by JGN on Jun 02, 2008 07:02 PM  Permalink
Yes, of course. Recently a Mullah in UP had issued a fatwa that woman has become the wife of her husband after her father-in-law raped her!!!!!!!!!

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RE:Ask any Muslims: Deobandis, or Teesta Javed Khan Seetalvad- who is resposnible for this?
by khalid raza on Jun 02, 2008 06:32 PM  Permalink
Boka chele y dont you run....the last bus to dhaka is ready to take off....if you are left behind the indians will kick you out.....run run run

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MUSLIMS IN THIS FORUM
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Jun 02, 2008 06:27 PM  Permalink 


INSTEAD OF TRYING TO DIVERT ISSUE, GO AND FIGHT UR JEHADI BROTHERS.

ISLAM LIKE ANY RELIGION IS JUDGED BY ITS FOLLOWERS.


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RE:Khalid / star / Baloard........why did prophet mohammed marry his adopted son's wife......??
by Star on Jun 02, 2008 06:26 PM  Permalink
I dont think we Muslims are in liberty to entertain you with an answer.

Chances are the answer is far beyond your comprehension - which incidentally probably also explains why you readily take to worshipping idols.

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by khalid raza on Jun 02, 2008 06:29 PM  Permalink
aabhinav you cant even qoute the source of this information!!!!!

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RE:RE:Khalid / star / Baloard........why did prophet mohammed marry his adopted son's wife......??
by JGN on Jun 02, 2008 06:27 PM  Permalink
>>>>>>>>>>Chances are the answer is far beyond your comprehension!!!!!!!!!!!!

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RE:RE:Khalid / star / Baloard........why did prophet mohammed marry his adopted son's wife......??
by Vivek Harry on Jun 02, 2008 06:33 PM  Permalink
mr. star, have you forgotten your claim that your black stone can erase sins, how can a black stone erase sins, can you explain please or you want a refresher dose, is this black stone more powerful than your founder because he also could not erase sins, what are you boasting about, cannot you not see the huge fraud at the source of Islam

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by Star on Jun 02, 2008 06:36 PM  Permalink
Vivek Harry

I STILL PERSIST WITH MY SAME CLAIM THAT WE DONT WORSHIP IDOLS....

I thnk you forgot the precise concept which i had farwarded to you in our last discussion...

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by Vivek Harry on Jun 02, 2008 06:40 PM  Permalink
you can make any claim, but your statements are contradicting your claims, you answer the question, how can you claim that a black stone can erase sins, while you scoff at our contention that shivling also can erase sins. according to common sense, only god can erase sins and nobody else, that means based on your claim itself, the black stone is your god, higher than even your founder, now if you cannot understand simple logic than it is not my fault, because you have stopped thinking long ago

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by Star on Jun 02, 2008 06:45 PM  Permalink
You are a confused man.........

I think you haven't got clear concept or it was beyond your comprehension i suppose!!!!!

So forget it and keep on following your blind mythology be an ignorant, Idoltrorous as you guys have been from the eras........

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by Vivek Harry on Jun 02, 2008 06:49 PM  Permalink
mr. star, it is you who are confused, otherwise you would not have made the claim that the black stone can erase sins? If you are so brilliant as you imagine, can you explain how this is possible

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RE:Khalid / star / Baloard........why did prophet mohammed marry his adopted son's wife......??
by khalid raza on Jun 02, 2008 06:25 PM  Permalink
Abinav where you get this from either from anti muslim sites or from the sanghis proaganda books

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RE:RE:Khalid / star / Baloard........why did prophet mohammed marry his adopted son's wife......??
by abhinav on Jun 02, 2008 06:27 PM  Permalink
khalid........lot of muslms have agreed to me on this board itself about marriage of prophet mohammed .....

just ask u r muslim scholar why adoption is banned in islam.........u will get the answer.......

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RE:RE:RE:Khalid / star / Baloard........why did prophet mohammed marry his adopted son's wife......??
by khalid raza on Jun 02, 2008 06:35 PM  Permalink
In islam ONE WHO ADOPTS ORPHANS DOES A MUCH HIGER PRAYER THAN PERFORMING HAJJ. THIS IS WHAT ISLAM SAYS ABOUT ADOPTION.....

YOU ARE ASKING ME TO ASK MUSLIM SCHOLAR WHOM YOU ASKED BEFORE POSTING FALSE THINGS....MODI OR RSS???

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by JGN on Jun 02, 2008 06:38 PM  Permalink
Yes, Islam has given importance to orphans because Mohammed himself was an orphan. He could think of his own circumstances only. The Quran was meant for the inhabitants of 7th century Arabia.

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by khalid raza on Jun 02, 2008 06:43 PM  Permalink
ITS MEANS FOR THE ENTIRE TIME...TILL THE WORLD FINISHES.....

WE ARE NOT LIKE JEWS AND XIANS WHO CHANGE THEIR BOOK ACCORDING TO THEIR NEED AND SAY....THAT SOME ONE HAS TAKEN THEIR SIN SO THEY ARE FREE FROM SIN...AND SOME SAYS WE ARE CHOOSEN ONE AND COMMIT CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY

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by abhinav on Jun 02, 2008 06:46 PM  Permalink
khalid u r brother Baloard has agreed to the fact of moahmmed's marriage to Zainab.......did u read his reply.......??

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by abhinav on Jun 02, 2008 06:37 PM  Permalink
mr khalid i have posted relevant quranic verses baing adoption in islamm.......

here it is again:

'"God did not make your adopted son as your own sons. To declare them so is your empty claim. God's word is righteous and constitutes true guidance. (Q.33: 4)."

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by khalid raza on Jun 02, 2008 06:42 PM  Permalink
IT MEANS THE RIGHT OF THOSE ARE NOT AS THOSE OF YOUR OWN SON...AS THEY ARE NOT YOURZ BY BLOOD.....

ABHINAV YOU READ THE AYAH BEFORE THIS AND AFTER THIS AND YOU'LL GET THE ANSWER FROM THERE ONLY....

BUT I HAVE ALWAYS SEEN NON-MUSLIMS QUOTING QURAN OUT OF THE CONTEXT.....

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RE:RE:Khalid / star / Baloard........why did prophet mohammed marry his adopted son's wife......??
by balaord on Jun 02, 2008 06:35 PM  Permalink
what is the difference between a real son and the adopted son?
Zainab was prophet cousinm,whom she knew her all along.If Prophet Muhammed desired her,he wouldnt have married her too Zaid in the first place.
You guys assume as if Muahmed came to know Zainab through his adopted son,the truth is it is He (Prophet) who arranged the marrage itself and it is because of this Zainab (PBUH) asked Prophet Muhammed to marry her after she divorced Zaid.
May peace and blessing be upon Zaid and the mother of belivers Zainab and Prophet.

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by khalid raza on Jun 02, 2008 06:36 PM  Permalink
ABHINAV....

YOU HAVENT STILL PROVIDED THE SOURCE OF THAT HADITH????? RSS BOOK OR WESTERN ANTI ISLAMIC MEDIA BOOK?

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by khalid raza on Jun 02, 2008 06:28 PM  Permalink
you cant even quote the ssource of information.....

you say you dont belive in religion your rligion whar=tever be ithindu or else you are anti islam....for people like you its written in quran that they are wandering in their dream to tarnish and finish the religion......but they wont succeed....

millions of non muslims before you tried this .....you seee the results islam incrreased four folds

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RE:RE:RE:Khalid / star / Baloard........why did prophet mohammed marry his adopted son's wife......??
by khalid raza on Jun 02, 2008 06:50 PM  Permalink
FROM WHICH BOOK ????? WHICH PASAAGE COMMON DONT HIDE NOW!!!!

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Ask Deoband whether its terrorism or not
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Jun 02, 2008 06:19 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Where are those Deobandis, Wahabis hiding now?

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by Mind Clear on Jun 02, 2008 06:25 PM  Permalink
Hindus should unite and align with all non-Muslim religions. Business as usual day after fatwa from Deoband. Partition allowed a major separation of psychiatric patients. India should emulate America, Europe, China, Japan, Turkey who all practice real aggressive secularism -- with one-law, uniform civil code and gender equality -- and do not deal with nonsense day in and day out. Islamic countries are busy doing this to themselves and others (as far as religion inspired terrorism is concerned). Those who have free oil and US support are surviving and rest are busy churning our mediocrity and madness by the thousands. Things are simple. When one does not have very serious focus on work, performance and excellence -- then either one gets lost in drugs, alcohol, sexual or religious perversions, threatening people on cartoons, bombings, exploitation of women and people who question and wasting time and energy... Afghanistan is the world's biggest producer and consumer of opium ... None of the Islamic countries can sustain a stable democratic govt. The small state of Israel produces many times more books, papers, science, art and creative work than all Islamic countries put together. The most mediocre and corrupt nations of the world today are the Islamic countries ... They will keep sitting, brooding and remain in mass hallucination as the world passes them by ...

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by khalid raza on Jun 02, 2008 06:21 PM  Permalink
boka chele plz go back to dhaka we indian dont need bangladeshis over here

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by Tathagata Mukherjee on Jun 02, 2008 06:22 PM  Permalink

UR IP IS BEING TRACKED IDIOT JEHADI.

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@JGN -Prophet Marriage
by balaord on Jun 02, 2008 06:17 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

When you cant discuss and debate on the central tenets of Islam,you pick the firnge issues such as age of Ayesh during Marriage as if thats what defines the theology of Islam.
In any case,I expect a reasoned argument from you after my comments here on this aspect

Prophet Muhammed married Ayesha with her permission after she attained puberty at the agr of 9.Puberty is a biological sign which shows that a women is capable of bearing children. Can anyone logically deny this?
This is certainly not something that Islam invented,this has been the norm of cultures and nations.Today the civilized world considers same sex marriage perfectly legal so it is no wonder the natural bilogical permission for marriage seems to belong -primitive societies.
As to his alleged old age (he was the commander in chief of his army not a shabby saint with hanging skin).You should know Prophet-s marriage to Aishah was an exceedingly happy one for both of them.If you couple this with the fact that attaining the age of puberty varies with countries and races due to the climate, hereditary, physical and social conditions, you wouldnt be asking this question.

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RE:@JGN -Prophet Marriage
by Star on Jun 02, 2008 06:18 PM  Permalink
Baloard appeared after a long time Welcome with your authentic sources....

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RE:@JGN -Prophet Marriage
by JGN on Jun 02, 2008 06:20 PM  Permalink
Dear balaord, I am not bothered about what was done by Mohammed more than 1400 yeras. I had never discussed this issue. My reply below was to a misleading information by one of your co-religionist.

And don't try to justify a 54 years old man marrying a six years old girl (she was 6 years at the time of marriage and the same was consumated at the age of 9 years).

I know a lot more than the believers about various religions. You or any believer cannot take me for a ride. Pl bear this in mind.

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RE:@JGN -Prophet Marriage
by khalid raza on Jun 02, 2008 06:22 PM  Permalink
jgn aka abhinav.....

this is the most significant sign of a "JAAHIL" he says he knows more than the scholars......

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RE:@JGN -Prophet Marriage
by Sadique on Jun 02, 2008 06:30 PM  Permalink
How do u know more than every body else...was u present when they married......do u knwo what is bitrth year of ur gr8 grandfather....do u know what is age of ur grgrandma when they married first know these things b4 talking about prophets personal life.....

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by JGN on Jun 02, 2008 06:32 PM  Permalink
Sadique, the same way how do you know the Quran was revealed by Allah? Were you present when Allah revealed those verses thru some angel??? How are you sure that those verses were not the concoctions of mohammed???

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by Sadique on Jun 02, 2008 06:35 PM  Permalink
Yes dear in that case give us the refernce from where u r clearing ur facts......I wud like to learn something wat u r understanding

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RE:RE:@JGN -Prophet Marriage
by JGN on Jun 02, 2008 06:21 PM  Permalink
Permission from a girl of six years!!!!!!!!!!!!! Great!!!! Really befitting the last messenger of the most merciful creator!!!!!!!!!!!

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by balaord on Jun 02, 2008 06:27 PM  Permalink
Prophet waited till she became biologically mature to get her permission.
Can you prove me that he forced her to marry?

Those who Question the marriage of Ayesha the mother of belivers -simply doesnt know the affection she had for Prophet Muhammed and dont know how they lived together.As to the mental maturity of Ayesha.You should only know that a huge portion of Islamic legal system and jurispudence is taken from her interpretation of Prophet-s sayings.And to talk of her being a innocuous child some how duped into am abusive marriage is a utter travesty of truth.

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by JGN on Jun 02, 2008 06:30 PM  Permalink
Yes I know that also. She was even bold enough to tell Mohammed that "Allah is very eager to fulfill all your wishes" and she was the only one in Mohammed's house-hold who was allowed to play with dolls!!!!!!!

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RE:@JGN -Prophet Marriage
by balaord on Jun 02, 2008 06:25 PM  Permalink
JGN - You seem to be too impressed with yourself,You are the kind of guy who learns law from a avowed criminal because he claims to know certain looh holes.

What is consummation and what is marrige?can you first differentiate that?

Forget Muslims and Prophet Muhammed for a moment.Let us look at the christianity for the sake of argument.Mary the mother of Jesus was much revered figure both in Christianity and Islam.Do you know the age of her Husband when she got married? 80 years

1911encyclopedia.org/Joseph_(Husband_Of_Mary)

....when married to Mary he was a widower already 80 years of age....

Catholic Encyclopedia

...Mary, then twelve to fourteen years of age. Joseph, who was at the time ninety years old...

newadvent.org/cathen/08504a.htm
bibleinsight.com/crn1p4.html

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RE:@JGN -Prophet Marriage
by JGN on Jun 02, 2008 06:29 PM  Permalink
Mr. balaord, I will not be impressed by your quoting something from the Bible or some obscure hindu scriptures. I am least bothered abou them. You cannot fool me.

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RE:RE:@JGN -Prophet Marriage
by Sadique on Jun 02, 2008 06:37 PM  Permalink
JGN why u report my reply as abuse........I just asked give me the age of Lord Krishna when he marry with his 16,108 wife.......
Don't dare to answer that.......

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RE:@JGN -Prophet Marriage
by Jai Babu on Jun 02, 2008 06:45 PM  Permalink
Balaord
I have no hatred for any religion. In my view almost all religions have fables, legends, allegories, stories, incidents which have been changed over time. Many of these are ridiculous in the modern age. For example no sane Hindu will unquestioningly support Sati,child marriage,Human sacrifice, segregation of castes, animal sacrifice, polygamy or believe that Rahu swallows the sun and moon to create eclipses. Nor will a Christian till hold on to the belief that the Sun revolves round the Earth or the immaculate conception of Mary or the magical power of Anglels, Jesus walking on water etc.
But do you still believe that because the Koran is divine revelation that the Sun sets in a pool of mud every evening, or that the earth is flat or that there will be rivers of wine and virgins available in Jannat? How ridiculous to state and argue that Ayesha at all of 9 years even assuming that she attained puberty could love a man over 50 years senior to her in age as a woman. The only love a 9 year child like Ayesha would have felt for Mohammed is that of an uncle or Grandfather!!!!! Wrong is wrong! And how do you justify Mohammed marrying his own daughter in law even if she was his adopted son's wife. My friend this religion was born in the sdesolate deserts of Arabia where it was very difficult to find Women, Wine or Food! Even polygamy was advocated so that a large number of destitute widowed women would get shelter & protection. To try and justify it in today's world would

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RE:@JGN -Prophet Marriage
by khalid raza on Jun 02, 2008 06:19 PM  Permalink
ASSALAM BHAI...MAINE YAHI SAMJHANE KI KOSHISH KI HAI APNE PICHLE ....POSTS MEIN INHE.


lekin samjhe tab na.....allah in ke dilo ka muhar khol de aur inhe hidayat ata farmayein

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Stupid Bloggers
by Star on Jun 02, 2008 06:13 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Most of the bloggers are educated from Criminal hindu websites like faith freedom etc have industrialised anti islamism and this has become like a growing business encvcouraged by proponents of the hindutva fascists.

Sources these non muslims lap up to are corrupt, Islam haters who LIE, SLY and DISTORT Quranic translations, strip off verse from the middle of a passage some time to cook up a mischievous presentation of QURAN.

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RE:Stupid Bloggers
by JGN on Jun 02, 2008 06:14 PM  Permalink
Go to X-Rated Paradise of Islam.

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RE:Stupid Bloggers
by khalid raza on Jun 02, 2008 06:17 PM  Permalink
and abhinav remember that prophet never married anyone out of lust as propagated by some misinformation by the media and wrong books.....


most of the women he married were those whose husbands were either killed in battlefield or some some were widow who had none to look them...

and the muslims adore their prophets so when prophets used to marry those poors....they were given foods and shelters by the muslims...

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RE:Stupid Bloggers
by Star on Jun 02, 2008 06:15 PM  Permalink
And you are the biggest element of that fasict.....

Kutti has given a good desription about you just read it instead of X read Y rated

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