RE:lets us live together
by Devavrata Satya on Jul 30, 2008 07:23 AM Permalink
You want to forgive Hindus for Gujarat? Are you kidding? It is Muslims who burned 58 Hindus and sparked off the riots. Under the guise of being a very forgiving Muslim, you now want to make statements like "What do muslims think that they will be able to reach the height of barbarism like the hindus Never.". Anyone who knows the history of Islam in India would laugh at that.
But Muslims are not the problem. Without Islam, they would be just as good or bad as anyone else. Only Islam tells them that it is the only religion acceptable to Allah and enjoins them to convert Dar-ul-harb to Dar-ul-Islam. It is Islam which is the real problem.
In the past, beginning with the Prophet himself, Muslims found it very easy to prevent criticism of Islam by killing the critics. In the age of the Internet, that is no longer possible.
RE:About God
by new on Jul 30, 2008 07:31 AM Permalink
Do u know what Shiva linga present?....Do u know on who kamasutra is written about? Do some research ?
RE:Desh Drohis
by Jai Prakash Singh on Jul 30, 2008 07:04 AM Permalink
But Shabbo still has got a lot of "FIRE" in her. Might be trying for a SP/ Congress ticket in the next elections. Anyway her movie carrier is over.
I just saw the Face the Nation on IBN Live and i really feel bad about india where People like Sabanam Azmi(Tatol Biach) lives..She said i think RSS is behind bomb blast not only this one but lots of other and Gov. targeting Muslim. People like her seltering these terrorists and every time they need a break even if the bomb people. I dont understan this mentality. Muslim needs to change their mentality otherwise they will be wiped out from earth. Whole world is just fed up of them
- Can two DRIVERS drive the same BUS at the same Time? - That mean you were created by X-GOD and your brother created by Y-GOD ?? - Who you have to follow, when both the GODs instruct you different things - One GOD says "Eat X", the other GOD says " DOnt Eat X", who will you follow?
Scenario 2: Which GOD has to be worshipped?
- Who is the greatest of the TWO God? - If the GODs both are equal in evertyhing, WHY dont you worship only one GOD? - If Both the GOD's are not equal in Power, Then why dont you worship the SUPREME powered One? - If someone says you can Worship anything, my Question, ..who gave you the authority to ask everyone to worship everthing (idols, humans, saints, imams)? - Do you have the Proof that GOD commanded you to worship him in everything (Idols, pictures, humans.??), if so, show me the proof...
(No, not the proof written by Humans, it should be from GOD).. DO you have the PROOF?? Yes, i HAVE THE proof that GOD commanded MANKIND ONLY TO WORHIP HIM (ALONE).
THE TRUTH:
- There is ONLY ONE GOD, who has created you and me, who has to be Worshipped - God Has commanded Mankind only to worship him. - God says whoever worships him will be sent to Heaven finally(after temporary punishment for his misdeeds) - God warns that Whoever worshipped anything Besides GOD will be sent to Hellfire FOREVER..
And GOD says that there is no compulsion (or force) for Belief in GOD.. OTHERS FOR H
RE:Belief in GOD
by Testing Life on Jul 30, 2008 06:30 AM Permalink
Idol Worship is prohibited in Hinduism:
i. Idol worship, which is very common amongst the Hindus, is prohibited in Hinduism. It is mentioned in Bhagavad Gita Chapter 7 verse 20:
“Those whose intelligence has been stolen by material desires they worship demigods i.e. idols.(Bhagavad Gita 7:20)
It is mentioned in:
ii. Svetashvatara Upanishad chapter 4 verse 19
As well as in:
iii. Yajurved Chapter 32 Verse 3
“There is no image of Him” (Svetashvatara Upanishad 4:19, Yajurved 32:3)
iv. It is also mentioned in
Yajurveda Chapter 40 verse 9
“They enter darkness those who worship natural things (for e.g. air, water, fire, etc.). They sink deeper in darkness those who worship sambhuti i.e. created things (for e.g. table, chair, car, idol etc.) (Yajurved 40:9)
RE:RE:Belief in GOD
by Exposse on Jul 30, 2008 07:49 AM Permalink
Only you have to explain the 'divine thoughts' that are generated during the worship an entity that has a Elephant head and travels on Rat.
In Egypt they have Human face and Lion body GOD(Spinx),in Greece they had Cat faced human God. Every facet of such portryal is a grave insult to the splendour and beauty of GOD,the creator of the universe.
These kind of fantasises are always part of many civilzations rooted in paganism, against which many Prophets of GOD fought against.
RE:Belief in GOD
by Jai Prakash Singh on Jul 30, 2008 06:34 AM Permalink
It is not prohibited. It says if you can imagine god in your mind, worship it. But if imagination becomes difficult for you, make an idol worship it and later you will reach the stage of idolless "Nirakar" worship. Hindu religion provides flexibility to you without enforcing things unnecessarily.
RE:Belief in GOD
by new on Jul 30, 2008 07:38 AM Permalink
I belive what I see..... I see Dog ...I belive Dog is there. I dont see God ... I dont belive God is there...
RE:Belief in GOD
by Muralidharan S on Jul 30, 2008 06:42 AM Permalink
Dude... this is exactly why your freaking religion is junk.
Your faiths say "There is only one God" whereas Hinduism says "There is only God". Every damn thing is God - so you better respect the other person because he is God and so are you. This is the essence of Vedanta and the Advaita philosophy. It requires a certain maturity in thinking to follow the REAL hindu philosophy. Unfortunately the whites branded our religion as polytheistic when it is really "omnitheistic".
#2. In Hinduism we encourage raising questions. You take any of our scriptures - be it Bhagavad Gita or the Upanishads. They are all in a Q&A format. So a disciple is encouraged to ask questions to his master and defy the accepted norm. Now the onus is on the master to explain to the disciple the philosophy underlying various norms and practices. Now if the disciple isn't convinced he can quit this school of thinking and either join another or propose his own philosophy of things which of course may or may not find followers.
So ours is a religion and culture which have a variety of paths to choose from and abide by.
After all one embraces a religion to guide him/her to lead an organized and fruitful life.
Unlike the other "monotheistic" religions, we don't order anything. We give people the freedom of choice.
RE:RE:Belief in GOD
by Exposse on Jul 30, 2008 07:56 AM Permalink
what goes by the name hinduism is just a mixture of pagan belifes put together.You will not find one single common ground between two hindus just a village apart.The only thing that unites is caste and some meaning less rituals.
You only deceive yourself by calling this self contradictions as flexibility.
A pro jehadi elected on congress ticket from a predominantly muslim locality, who is having connections with Telgi and Dawood is inside the Assembly.Arrest that bas*ard. SOOLEMAGA
RE:Terrorist is inside Vidhan soudha
by Testing Life on Jul 30, 2008 07:46 AM Permalink
The Message from the Messengers of GOD (Moses, Jesus,.. Muhammed) Which of the following points that you reject..?? (30 pts)
1. There is only one God 2. He is alive and not cannot die 3. He cannot be defeated 4. He is free from every imperfection 5. He is clear from resembling others or anything 6. He knows everything 7. He knows what there in the heart of Everyone 8. He needs no food 9. He needs no sleep 10. He needs no help 11. He has the power of creating everything and anything 12. He gives life and causes death 13. He brings non-existence to existence 14. He is the protector and destroyer 15. He created YOU and ME 16. You and me are the slaves of the God 17. All humans are the slaves of the same God 18. He has plenty of mercy on his slaves 19. He is the ONLY forgiver of all sins 20. He is the Justice of right and wrong 21. He loves all his slaves 22. Adaam (Adam) is his slave prophet and messenger 23. Nuh (Noah) is his slave prophet and messenger 24. Yusuf (Josesh) is his slave prophet and messenger 25. Ibrahim (Abraham) is his slave prophet and messenger 26. Dawood (David) is his slave prophet and messenger 27. Sulaiman (Solomon) is his slave prophet and messenger 28. Moosa’ (Moses) is his slave prophet and messenger 29. Isaa’ (Jesus) is his slave prophet and messenger 30. Mohammed is his slave prophet and HIS
RE:RE:Terrorist is inside Vidhan soudha
by Testing Life on Jul 30, 2008 07:47 AM Permalink
...Last Prophet of GOD.
There were around 124,000 Messengers sent by God (Adam, Jesus, Solomon, David, Moses, …..Muhammed.) (peace be upon them), to Guide mankind for various nations, at various times, with one message.
All the books were sent for ONE MESSAGE to Entire mankind All the messengers delivered the same message
---- THE MESSAGE ---
= Worship the CREATOR - not the CREATIONS =
Message Worship the only Almighty God and nothing else Obey his Command, and so enter paradise, Discard his Command, and enter Hell Fire forever You have two options now,
If (Believed the Message = True) Then Enter The promised Paradise – Forever (after Death) Else (Disbelieve the Message = True) then Enter The Promised Hell Fire – Forever (after Death)
Just Remember: The Message has been delivered to you now, and you cannot Say to God that YOU have not Received the Message..
What is the word Hindu? What is the meaning of word Hindu?
No body knows the origin of Word Hindu, as it was derived/ misspelled from Sindhu River. Persians called Indus River as Sindhu and later the word Sindhu became Hindu. Greeks wrote Indus, Persians wrote Sindhu, Arabs called Al-Hind. Some says ancient Greeks used to mis pronounce word Sindhu as Indos. The word Hindu itself is non-Hindu and a non-Sanskrit word.
During Medieval period Muslim rulers and travelers named the place as Hindustan. British Colonial Empire continues the practice and referred all the natives(Buddhists, Jains,,,) as Hindoos. Later they began using the word more as a religious term to distinguish them from Muslims and Christians. The distinction suited them well to lump all natives as Indians, while the word Hindoo served them well to implement the policy of divide and rule within India.
Those who feel appalled at the idea of someone referring to all Indians as Hindu should read History to know more about the word Hindu. It is interesting to note that the word Hindu is neither sanskrit nor Dravidian and did not originate in India. It was not used by Indians in descriptions or writings till 17th Century.
Mohanjodaro and Harappa civilisation are found in Pakistan.
Indus Valley Civilisation was spread upto Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran and India. No one knows the religion of that period.
Some historians even wrote that nomadic people came from Iran to this region were aryans.
RE:What is Hindu? meaningless word.....
by Sam on Jul 30, 2008 07:02 AM Permalink
Actually you are right to an extent. The actual name of the religion is Sanathana Dharma or Eternal religion. Not many hindus know that.
RE:RE:What is Hindu? meaningless word.....
by Jai Singh on Jul 30, 2008 06:15 AM Permalink
So whats ur problem. Hindu came from Sindhu river because a civilization developed on the banks of that river. How it becomes meaningless than? Is Moscow also meaningless as it is named after he river "Mascava".
RE:What is Hindu? meaningless word.....
by Jai Singh on Jul 30, 2008 06:24 AM Permalink
And the interesting fact is that Pakistan was originally on the banks of the river Sindhu. So all the Pakistanis are basically hindus (the word they hate so much).Hindu religion is flowing like the river providing life to the whole world.
RE:What is Hindu? meaningless word.....
by Partha Choudhury on Jul 30, 2008 06:52 AM Permalink
What's in a name? Come back and argue they day you understand the philosophy that Hinduism has given to the world.
RE:What is Hindu? meaningless word.....
by Jai Prakash Singh on Jul 30, 2008 06:56 AM Permalink
Only Lord Brahma can understand the philosophy of "Hinduism" fully, not mortals like u n me.
The English word "religion" is derived from the Middle English "religioun" which came from the Old French "religion." It may have been originally derived from the Latin word "religo" which means "good faith," "ritual," and other similar meanings. Or it may have come from the Latin "religãre" which means "to tie fast."
Hindi word "Dharma" is made of two words- Dhaarana and marana. Means a path you will follow till death. But Vedas clearly say "do not believe in the text written here unless you experiment it yourself and find it true".
Majhab has a different meaning. It means "School of thought". There are four major Majhab (Schools of Thoughts) in Islaam. Though none of the Imams adviced their followers to cling to their understandings only, the later day Muslims chose to follow one specific Imam, even if his verdict went against that of the Prophet (SM). It is understandable that those great Imams could have had made mistakes; thus, it should not lead us disrespecting them. They were the best people of their times. However, once the truth is established, as the scholars say, we should follow the truth, regardless of from whom we hear otherwise. In fact, like it is said in the Quran, "But no, by Your Lord, they can have no (real) faith, until they make you judge in all disputes between them, and find in themselves no resistance against your decisions, and accept them with full submission" (An-Nisa, 65), we have to be very flexible in receiving the truth in order to succeed i
RE:Islam is not a religion but just a ''school of thought''!
by Mind Clear on Jul 30, 2008 05:55 AM Permalink
It is really for immature, childish people, who believe in ghost stories. The same is true for other religions, but luckily the State does not impose fundamentalism, and nobody starts killing because somebody questions these.
RE:Islam is not a religion but just a ''school of thought''!
by Jai Singh on Jul 30, 2008 05:50 AM Permalink
And unfortunately, this school of thought has gone awry. It has forgotten its direction and sense. Muslims need to understand the difference between truth and illusion.
RE:Islam is not a religion but just a ''school of thought''!
by Jai Singh on Jul 30, 2008 05:56 AM Permalink
All the religions have been heavily dependent on one thing "adjustment with time" and hence they all made provisions of re-thinking and establishing new truths. But in present time especially in Islam, re-thinking has stopped and people are blindly following the same old theories. This becomes the root cause of terror and other problems.
RE:Islam is not a religion but just a ''school of thought''!
by Jai Prakash Singh on Jul 30, 2008 06:47 AM Permalink
BTW Ramesh, have u read Koran. If no, please remove line 1. Others things are OK.
RE:Islam is not a religion but just a ''school of thought''!
by newage Age on Jul 30, 2008 07:38 AM Permalink
Prakash and Ramesh: Very good analysis both.
I am a devout Hindu, and as usual open to different ideas and cultures. I was planning to turn some pages of Quran for my GK. However, something stopped me. i.e.
When I early secondary school I was very inqusitive to learn about Nuclear Technology specifically related to Bombs until a day later in my secondary school I came to know about the DANGEROUS AND DISASTROUS impact of this technology of Bomb on Japan. I never though about it any further...
RE:Islam is not a religion but just a ''school of thought''!
by Jai Singh on Jul 30, 2008 07:49 AM Permalink
But now same Nuclear Technology is providing electricity. It is how u use it. Same knife which u use to cut vegetables can cut someone's life as well. If you could have learned Nuclear Technology then, may be it could have saved 100 Billion dollars which Sardar Ji is going to give his friend Bush in Nuclear Deal 123.
Media is spreading the news that karnataka blasts are due to the crackdown on SIMI. What these media people expect from the nationalistic BJP government?Sit back and hand over the reigns to terrorists.Congress created Bhinranwale and thousands of people were killed.Congress created Sheikh Abdulla and lakhs of people are slaughtered day in day out.Now congress is acting soft on terrorists as all of them have come from muslim community. BJP don't worry, we people r with u continue ur crusade against terrorists and shoot the terrorists without trial.
RE:BJP should act tough
by SHUQ on Jul 30, 2008 05:47 AM Permalink
What is BJP?
A branch of Sangh Parivar and RSS which was earlier sponsored by Colonial Empire(Britishers). Though Britishers left India, their prodigy still remains with RSS i.e., Khaki Chaddi.
It was BJP's rule, even when POTA was active, Parliament of India was attacked, It was the rule of BJP when terrorists massacared 10,000 Muslims, Mosques razed, Dargah's destoryed in Gujarat. It was BJP's rule when Akshardham Temple was attacked by Terrorists. And now it is BJP's rule their friends are on prowl again in BJP's ruled states. There is utter security failure in BJP's ruled states.
BJP once elected had been careless, ruthless, traitors who sold the coffins of dead Indian soldiers in Kargil.
Where ever there is BJP there are terrorists, be it Gujarat, be it Rajashtan, be it in Centre during Vajpayee's period when Parliament was attacked. They always make history by introducing POTA and terrorists as well.
Thanks to all the financial support these ruthless and spineless organisation.
