The author opines the name is given to have Indian feel. But I feel that terrorist needs no such local identities. It could be rather to form and specialise groups for country-wise terrorist operations. Pakistani terrorists are spread all over the world and for carrying out specialised localised operations in India they would have given this name. On the one hand it makes common man in India and Pakistan think that it is purely Indian terrorism and has nothing to do with Pakistan. This notion can be well sold to US too for sometime. On the other hand such name would allow recruiting and identify people in area specific way for operations.
In fact giving an Indian name to terrorist outfit has more negative effects for the Islamic Community as a whole - all these years we were thinking India as one and Pakistan as our common enemy; but now we have started seeing all muslims as our enemies and are seeing our own many year neighbours as potential dangers. Every muslim is looked down upon as a potential terrorist now and the very existance of muslims in India can face serious challenges in the very near future due to Pakistani miscalculations.
RE:Indian name
by sami on Jul 30, 2008 01:39 PM Permalink
You are abslutely right, as a muslim , right now in India , i feel very scared , - because of the actions of a few misguided indiviuals , the whole community gets targetted & i don't know where we are going to end up , just going through the messages on rediff board gives you a generel feeling of hate towards the muslims , i really don't know if this can be taken as a parameter of the majority indian population , but it makes me scared.All i can say is I love India very much & am proud to be indian, & at the same time , i am a good muslim ,who prays regularly & i don't see any conflict in loving my India & my religion at the same time-What do you guys think?
RE:Indian name
by rrrrrr on Jul 30, 2008 02:24 PM Permalink
i appreciate you sami. but the prob is that we have very few muslim like you in our country..rest all are gaddar
RE:Indian name
by amal deo on Jul 30, 2008 01:57 PM Permalink
The terrorists are prepared to die for their cause. Let us all Indians also be prepared to die for India. Let us assume that we can be killed by a bomb. So what? Can a few bombs harm such a large country like ours? Bombs can only harm India psychologically. Let us fight terrorism, but let us also get rid of the fear of terrorism.Like them, let us be prepared to become martyrs. Fight them without fear.
P.S.Is the Holy Book a bomb making manual? Why all over the world are they exploding bombs? What is their problem? The book tells them that the way to paradise is through killing non-believers. Liberals say it is a religion of peace. But the book tells them that only Christians & Jews(the people of the Book)can be spared. For all others, the book gives only 3 choices to the true believer - convert,enslave or kill.That is what this peacefull religion has done for 1300 years.
To all the Pakistanis and their Indian stooges, my message is - your ancestors were Hindus. When faced with the sword, your ancestors chose to convert. And you are now feeling proud? Ha !!
RE:Indian name
by Guest on Jul 30, 2008 02:27 PM Permalink
Hello My dear...I am very sad to hear these words from you. We Indian Muslims, very much proud to be Indian. Of course we follow Quran and Islamic fundamentals, which are not instructed to hatred among believes and killing innocents. Islam clearly clearly preaches about humanity. My dear brother, Can you tell me from where you got the quranic quotations? I hope you never read the Quran and you might be heard from some one else who also have the same perception. To clarify and come out of this perception, nothing wrong to read Quran translation once.
Finally, As per Islam "Loving the Mother land is part of our Belief". I am not saying that All muslims are strictly following Islam. There are culprits who are misguided by Anti National elements. Islam has nothing to with this.
RE:RE:Indian name
by rrrrrr on Jul 30, 2008 02:39 PM Permalink
Guest we all hate you guys because you muslim never regret any bomb blast nor you cooperate with us to build a good secure nation,
RE:Indian name
by galilio on Jul 30, 2008 03:31 PM Permalink
Nawab of arcot prince is staying in chennai who runs harmony india, a forum with kamahasan cine actor and few journalists in tamilnadu to promote peace and harmony among religions.three
months ago,there was an exhibition conducted by a french journalist in india mr.f.gauiter about Aurangazip in paintings and in art forms in chennai.Nawab of arcot came with some islamic party members and objected to this exhibition becouse it protrayed Aurangazip as a cruel king
and destroyer of hindu temples which is actually
true and only truth in arts form was exhibited.
with the support of police,they destroyed all the arts in gallary and took the exhibitors to police.so called secularist muslims when it comes to the truth and exposed, they become fundamentalists and support violence.i find in islam although most of muslims are good by and large,few are supporting violence for religion.
1.Pakistan is declared Enemy number 1 2.China is undeclared enemy no. 2 3.Bangladesh is enemy no. 3 4.Burma is no happy with us. 5.India has betrayed the Tibetians and Dalai Lama on the TIbet issue after licking the feet of China. 6.Afghanistan lost hope. 7.Bhutan not very happy with Inian high handedness. 8.Already provoked Iran by voting against them in UN. Please add to the list if I missed any one here. Please answer myone simple question. Please name one country in our neighbourhood whom we can consider as friend. Is this the reason why Hinduism declined over the centuries in Asia?? Who is the friend of India?
RE:Why India has all neghbours as only enemies and no friends???
by Shyam on Jul 30, 2008 12:57 PM Permalink
You have missed out Sri Lanka. Sri Lanka too is unhappy with us due to LTTE problems and TN's open support to LTTE.
Simple! With the active participation of locals and political patronage. Nothing more, nothing less. Terrorism is the act of cowards, stinkers who hide behind. They don't have guts to come out openly. Atleast Eunuchs are far better. They work openly.
RE:How the Indian Mujahideen was Formed
by Shyam on Jul 30, 2008 01:02 PM Permalink
This is what all politicians say after every attack "It is a cowardly act by terrorists in frustration". Whether it is a brave or coward act, common man's death is certain. If the government cannot avert even cowardly act, what will happen if some brave acts are carried out? Instead of making such useless nonsensic comments, our aim should be curb terrorism to its roots.
RE:About God
by OAK on Jul 30, 2008 08:10 AM Permalink
Senseless.. Please rool out all Hindu Sastars, any ver it written that you have to pray a IDOL.. A Single Line..
NOW I BET YOU THERE ARE PEOPLE WHOM U PRAY AND BELIVE THEM AS GOD, I DNT WANT TO NAME THEM.. ASK HIM DOESNT HE KNOWS WHO IS THE BOMBER..DOESNT HE KNOW WHERE HE IS HIDING ?. MOST PARTS OF INDIA IS IN DROUGH ASK HIM FOR RAIN. CAN HE DO THAT ?? the only reason i dnt want name them because you wouldnt spare him also.
RE:RE:About God
by Shyam on Jul 30, 2008 01:09 PM Permalink
God is your master, not your slave that he does all your work so that you can keep writing in message boards. For Hindus, doing one's own duty is foremost and cannot expect god or guardian angels to come to their rescue for each and everything. If you cannot help yourself, no god is going to help. Nobody is forcing you to believe anything. All religions do Idol Worshipping, Muslims both pray and hit Stone in the name of Allah and Shaitan in Macca. Similarly Christians too worship the Holy cross with figure of Jesus. Buddhists and Jains too worship the Siddhartha Buddha and Mahavira Jain's idols. So don't think this is unique to only Hindus. Come out of your misconceptions and see things in clear light.
RE:About God
by MS on Jul 30, 2008 07:15 AM Permalink
God and man are not different. Remove the changeable, imaginary and transitory part and you are left with the permanent One who is beyond time and space. Union with Him is yoga.
IB is doing very good post mortem.After the incidents and scores of death it is coming out with plausible stories.Is there a single incident in which IB has given definite clue and prevented catastrophe. They r fit to stand outside the bedroom of MMS and Sonia to keep watchful eye on possible intruders.
“Under the IPC, no detainee can be denied bail and confession is not admissible as evidence,” he lamented reminding that the world over all developed western nations facing terrorism have passed similar laws incorporating these two provisions.
He also dismissed the proposal for setting up a federal agency without this proviso of little consequence. Jaitley pointed out, “Rajiv Gandhi assassins could be convicted because of these provisos in TADA and so is the case with the attack on Indian Parliament where again the accused could be convicted due to similar quality of POTA.
“Since the withdrawal of POTA, Malegaon, Mumbai blasts and so many incidents in UP have taken place but no one has been convicted,” he said because of inadequacy of law.
Jaitely also contested that law and order was a state subject. Citing a Supreme Court ruling he said, “the Supreme Court has held in POTA review petition that terrorism is not a state subject. It needs a Central entry,” Jaitely asserted.
He also felt a “federal agency alone will not change the situation, it will only change the investigating agency.”
RE:Fooling whom?
by Virgo on Jul 30, 2008 05:43 AM Permalink
So, you think everyone is scapegoating your terror outfits HUJI, Jaish, SIMI and so on? Hmmm.... you sound like a paki ISI agent. Our country can be saved only when we get rid of traitors like you who sympathize with the terrorists and support them.
RE:Fooling whom?
by Moin on Jul 31, 2008 01:34 AM Permalink
I sympathise with you "Virgo". You do not even deserve a sane explanation, coz you are quiet far away from sanity!
RE:Fooling whom?
by Shyam on Jul 30, 2008 01:11 PM Permalink
Whatever the names are, all names lead to Muslims like all roads lead to Rome. The reality is that the world has started seeing the Muslims as potential danger to humanity as a whole. When a community gets this kind of identity, it is the beginning of decline for the community.
RE:Fooling whom?
by Zahiruddin babar on Jul 30, 2008 01:47 PM Permalink | Hide message
Your are right Shyam, these bomb blast may be carried out by RSS,VHP & BD... Bcoz these Org. want to make muslim community down... the investigation should be dont by any independent agency and it should cover RSS also bcoz they have potential to do the same.
RE:Fooling whom?
by ashutosh upadhyay on Jul 30, 2008 02:00 PM Permalink
i agree wth uZaheer...its not muslims or hindus...all anti nationalsshud be treated wth disgust and killed be it hindus or muslims or any1 else....plus so called hindutva netas and maulvis too who in the name of votebanks play wth emotions of hindus andmuslims....
