But our PM had sleepless nights when a Muslim from India was convicted in Australia & his brother was released from a jail in UK after being caught in the Glasgow Airport bomb blast.
With this sort of PM & a spinless government, we certainly are a haven for Islamic jihadis.
RE:STOP KILLING HINDUS INTHE NAME OF JIHAD / QURAN
by Bhajiya on Jul 28, 2008 10:19 AM Permalink
Every time terrorist attack hapen blame game starts. Unfortunately only poor people pays price not politicians or businessman or elit people suffer. I request terriost not to target instead they should target indian politicians and businessman and criminals turn politicians who rund governmentt from prison, GOd will bless their act these are people who spoiled India. Politicians, Bearocrats, businessman all never promote law and order in India. Rather most law abiding common is become comic charactor and punish for abiding law of India. Politicians never support victimization of common man but protect interest of politicians, criminals, crafty businessman etc. They should be targeted.
RE:RE:STOP KILLING HINDUS INTHE NAME OF JIHAD / QURAN
by akhil kapoor on Jul 28, 2008 10:32 AM Permalink
brother targeting individuals wont help as the system is to be blamed not the individual
Islamic terrorism is troubling the whole world. In Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, India plus peace loving countries like US, UK and European countries all are in this web of Islamic terrorism. How horrendous would that religion be which preaches killing of innocent civilians. I wish this Islamic terrorism to end sooner. We should follow the Israel model which single handedly thrashed the Islamic terrorism in their part. No Islamic terrorist dares to go in Israel and they piss in pants , moment they hear about Israel
Islam is last religion formed by including essense of all good things other religions. But unfortnalty, now it was suffering.. The day when they demolished Banyanan in Afganistan, it is concluded that it will be begining of end of Islam. SO it was last region to come first go . But before it vanished it will do all bad things and most of Indians going to suffer.. Communual voilance in iNdia here to stay.. We should wage war with Mental games.. not physical games with Islamic terriest.. If you ask our old people they will tell .. THey now How they can win the game by terrising ..
This IsmailKhan is parroting whatever Dr Zakir Naik (The know-all-Muslim Scholar, who gives as authoritative claims as god, on every book on earth. The argumentative, adament and senseless and convenient interpretor of all religious books. PBUH) has mentioned in many of his speaches. I quite like that guy for his ability to conduct one sided arguments.
Biggest blunder made by Nehru Gandhi& Company.Only permanent solution::Send all them away to there respective Countries(Read Paki-shit,Saudi,etc).We Hindu's dont want them ask any brother of our's and in private they would endorse above view.Infact it would be very sound idea.
Religions are aimed at creating a good civilized society, and also to take individual human beings to the highest level, of union with God. So, any bad act done in the religion is not the mistake of the religion, but of the person(s) misusing it. Terrorism has also to be seen in this context. Why should anyone feel bad when people are arrested and punished for terrorists acts? Why should people raise a hue and cry when strong laws like POTA are enacted to curb terrorism, which is an inhuman, cowardly and heartless act killing non-suspecting innocents including infants? This attitude of going soft on heartless criminals, in the name of religion, is the curse of this nation! It is very much possible that in the course of investigations, etc. a few innocents will be put to some trouble. That does not mean that investigations and mechanisms to curb terrorist acts should be stopped, or minimised. When there is any sort of trouble, it is quiet natural that some innocents will be put to some trouble. Police officers are not divine beings that they should go and question only the culprits. How do they know who are the culprits, before investigations? When frisking is done in public places, people subject to it will not be that comfortable. Does that mean checking 'innocent' public should be avoided in public places? This is done for our own interest, and we should co-operate. To avoid Islam being maligned in the name of terorism, Muslims shoud take the initiative to cut terrorism
RE:Combating terrorism is not an act against Islam!
by JGN on Jul 28, 2008 10:28 AM Permalink
Religions were created for keeping the gullible masses under control. Nearly two-thirds of all wars fought by mankind were in the name of religins and non-existent gods.
The so-called holy books are creations of surrealistic visionaries and are no more serious than Gulliver's Travels or Aesop's Fables. Nobody has come back after death to tell the stories in heaven/hell. Such thins existed in the fertile imaginations of surrealistic visionaries.
Life on planet earth is the only thing known to mankind. Do not harm others for getting rewards in an imaginary life here-after.
The sooner we all get rid of the outdated religious dogmas, the beter for the whole mankind.
Though Raman has not made any "big"analysis of the matters but has mainly dwelt on the sequence of the factual events occurred,his encapsulating the contents,tone & tenor of the e-mail is superb.What the govt & press feared to release to avoid public reaction,Raman ventured to summarise and gave a brief sketch of the intentions & inside story behind the thinking of the email writer.The grouses behind the terrorists anger vented in the email would only lead one to brush aside all as nonsense since they expect that law should not take its own course and every one should keep quiet to what all they do. The main point that Raman wants to highlight and underline is that ISI with all its proclamations of no role in any one of the terrorist activities is behind the screen of every episode.It does not like to be the cause prima facie,but wishes to be the key role player remotely controlling & developing all the outfits in India itself & out of gullible Indian Muslim youth itself.This is really very serious as its sinister designs of pitting our own people against us itself is some thing we normally do not suspect although the investigating agencies will never miss this vital point.Though the initial anger of these outfits is being manifested mainly in the BJP ruled states,as Raman has correctly pointed out,it will not end there but is likely to spread to other peaceful parts of the country & against other national too,if unchecked with a determined will & iron hand.Long live India!!
Swami Vivekananda while appreciated the the best part of Islam, and exhorted to the non-Muslims to adopt that, he was also ruthless in condemning the barbaric, divisive and inhumane aspects and actions of Islam and its followere, he did not mince words when he stated: "The Mohammedan religion allows Mohamme- dans to kill all who are not of their religion. It is clearly stated in Koran, "Kill the infidels if they do not become Mohammedans". They must be put to fire and sword. (II.335). Think of the little sects, born within a few hundred years out of fallible human brains, making this arrogant claim of knowledge of the whole of God's infinite truth! Think of the arrogance of it! If it shows any- thing, it is this how vain human beings are. And it is no wonder that such claims have always failed, and , by the mercy of the Lord, are always destined to fail. In this line the Mohammedans were the best off; every step forward was made with the sward - the Koran in the one hand and the sward in the other: "Take the Koran, or you must die; there is no alternative!". You know from history how phenomenal was their success; for six hundred years nothing could resist them, and then there came a time when they had to cry halt. So will it be with other religions if they follow the same methods." (II:369-70)
"Wave after wave of barbarian conquest has rolled over this devoted land of ours. "Allah Ho Akbar!" has rent the skies for hundreds of years, and no Hindu knew what moment would
RE:Swami Vivekananda on Islam - great read
by A on Jul 28, 2008 08:40 AM Permalink
be his last. This is the most suffering and the most subjugated of all the historic lands in the world. Yet we will stand practically the same race, ready to face difficulties again and again if necessary; and not only so, of late there have been signs that we are not only strong, but ready to go out for the sign of life in expansion." (III.369-70)
"What is called the Mohammedan invasion, conquest or colonisation of India means only this that under the leadership of Mohammedan Turks, who were renega- des from Buddhism, those sections of the Hindu race who continued in the faith of their ancestors were repeatedly conquered by the other section of that very race, who also were renegades from Buddhism of the Vedic religion and served under the Turks, having been forcibly converted to Mohammedanism by thier superior strength. (VII:395)
The Koran further says: The unbelievers among the people of the Book of Ahl-i-Kitab (i.e. Jews and Christians) and the pagans shall burn for ever in the fire of Hell. They are the vilest of all creatures (S98:6).
Swamiji said of this: "Christian people hate no religion in the world so much as Mohammedenism. They think it is the worst form of religion that ever existed. As soon as a man becomes a Mohammedan, the whole of Islam receives him as a brother with open arms, without making any distinction, which no other religion does. If one of your American Indians becomes a Mohammedan, the Sultan of Turkey would have no objection to dine wit
RE:RE:Swami Vivekananda on Islam - great read
by A on Jul 28, 2008 08:40 AM Permalink
According to Islam, Allah is unknowable. He is so transendent, so exalted, that no man can ever personally know Allah. To the Muslim the idea that Allah is a person or a spirit is blasphemous because this would demean the exalted one. Allah is not limited by anything. He is not even limited by his own nature. Swamiji used to react to this belief by saying: "For the Mohammedans,it is impossible to have this idea of God as a child; they will shrink from it with a kind of horror. But the Christian and the Hindu can realise it easily because they have the Baby Jesus and the Baby Krishna. (III:96)
Swamiji also reacted on the 'universal brotherhood' in Islam by saying: Mohammedans talk of universal brotherhood, but what comes out of that in reality? Why anybody who is not a Mohammedan will not be admitted into the brotherhood; he will more likely have his throat cut. (II:380)
More from Swamiji on this aspect: "Now, some Mohammedans are the crudest in this respect, and the most sectarian. Their watchword is "There is one God, and Mohammed is His Prophet". Everything beyond that not only is bad, but must be destroyed forthwith; at a moment's notice. every man or woman, who does not exactly believe in that, must be killed; everything that does not belong to this worship must be immediately broken; every book that teaches anything else must be burnt. From the Pacific to the Atlantic, for five hundred years, blood ran all over the world. That is Mohammedanism! Neverthe- less,
Re: Swami Vivekananda on Islam - great read
by GRJ on Sep 20, 2008 07:33 PM Permalink
If Allaha is unknowable how did prohet Mohamad take dicttation and writ quoran?
which was the first kitab Torah or quoran ?
If the basis has come from Jewish religion ,how are we able to distinguish who is true?
Lot of confusion.
Prophet Mohamad might have used his own brain powers and compiled the information.
Otherwise there wont be so much of suffering for muslims and those who are killed in the name of Jihad.
