Don't expect the Shahi Imam of Jama Masjid or Shankaracharya of all "piths" will condemn. If you ask them they will surely condemn. Don't blame any community for this terrorist attack. Terrorists are psychopaths, common man has nothing to do with their psychology but the common man suffers from their activities. Root of this cause is embedded in the politics of hatrate. Rise of Bhindranwale, attack on Harminder Saheb, sikh riots, rathyatra, demolition of Babri Masjid, attack on train in Godhra and thereafter genocide, and now these terrorists attacks. Congress is responsible for Bhidranwale's rise, BJP is responsible for rathyatra and riots thereafter. Don't forget the Newton's law, which is also applicable here. a party won 2 seats in 1984 and in 1989 they won 88 seats. A person who becomes richer in days, there must be a crime behind his richness. Thats what a common man is paying the price of hatrate.
Now we know why congress dont wanted to hang Afzal Guru --- the answer they also wanted to get share of minority appeasement through killing inocent people.
I am not telling that they are doing this but in Kaliyug if you are neutral than you are cunning. Why neutralism (only for selfisness) like they are not this side or that side. Why people are not dare to say this is enough from muslim comunity.
RE:Indian way
by Bharat on Jul 27, 2008 08:16 PM Permalink
continuation - - -
can you ever imagine that without any local help all these bomb blast will not going to happen.
so local muslim people??????
a big question mark?????
the same local who are staying in the same locality or town but they have a complete hatred mind to destroy all Kafirs (means the people who are worshiping idols)
RE:Indian way
by Bharat on Jul 27, 2008 08:16 PM Permalink
continuation - - -
Now come to the point of these kind of hatred mentality.
How all these are flourishing here in India????
Can any political party dare to see behind the veil (parda).
What is going on in all these Masjids, what kind of speeches are preciding over there.
What is happening in Madarsas (Muslim religious school)?? what kind of education they provide there?? It is always seems that they are all giving anti national education.
Y none of the so alled national muslims or otherwise "secular" muslims in india keep silence towards all these terror ativities?it's their silence that gives the great support for these terrorists...if muslims in india sinerely act terrorists can be uprooted within days ..
a> Hindu: Only sees the world from its own viewpoint.
b> Muslim: Only sees the world from its own viewpoint.
Women are raped, men murdered, kids grow up seeking revenge and become terrorists. Politicians (mo matter who dies) will always be seeking power and fools like us will always be spewing more hatred towrads each other.
RE:India is cursed
by Mohammed AbdulNaseer on Jul 27, 2008 08:31 PM Permalink
So true dude! Just have a look at this forum...instead of condemning the blasts...everyone is so keen on bashing muslim...by spewing hatred against each other we are just falling into this trap set by our politicians and the terrorists(whoever they are)...they are just giving a communal tinge to the cowardly acts and instead of instilling confidence amongst each other....are just viciating the atmosphere further....helping none but the people who committed this crime and our politicians...who want to be in power at any cost...
RE:India is cursed
by Arsenal on Jul 27, 2008 08:37 PM Permalink
As a sikh, I want Hindus and Muslims to come together for a common cause. Criminals must be brought to justice such as Togadia, Modi and SIMI or whoever that incites violence.
Our goal is to make India a superpower. We want progress, we want to overtake China. We have more urgent need to fix the poverty and education problems facing our nation. we must unite!!!
After going through most of the messages I think Rediff is promoting hatred and vulgarity on its site ,why is it that Gods and prophets being cursed on this site and nothing is being done to prevent, it is shameful and truely Kalyug that for the evil done by man GODs are abused.
RE:Rediff should Act
by Arsenal on Jul 27, 2008 08:17 PM Permalink
How about thousands of years of oppressing the Dalits? Where does that genocide and human right violation falls under?
I know you guys are so perfect that there's not even one single molecule of dirt in your heart and soul. You guys are in fact god!
RE:Rediff should Act
by Sami on Jul 27, 2008 09:26 PM Permalink
YAH BEFORE THAT YOU WERE:
1) FREE TO BURN WOMENS AS SATI
2) YOU WERE FREE TO SHARE ONE WOMEN WITH FIVE PEOPLE (PANDAV).
3) YOUR GOD WERE FREE TO HAVE SEX WITH BULL (SHIVA, WHEN IT WAS TURN FOR THE BULL YOUR GOD HID INSIDE SHIVA TEMPLE WITH SMALL DOOR SO THAT BULL CAN'T COME INSIDE, THAT'S WHY BULL IS ALWAYS SITTING OUTSIDE SHIV TEMPLE)
4) AND NOW ALSO YOU ARE DISPLAYING THE UNHUMAN ACTS LIKE: A) Like how Praveen Togarya, your leader told infront of camera, and people all over the world saw that; in which he has told how he CUT THE BELLY OF A PREGNANT MUSLIM WOMEN AND THE CHILD INSIDE THAT CAME OUT AND HE KILLED THAT.
B) Or you are telling muslims to do like Hindus like raping Muslim girl on the street and then putting knife in her vagina & tearing it apart.
C) Or you are telling muslim to do like what Hindus have done like killing new borne infant on the street by pelting stone on him after snatching the infant from his mother's lap. And after that burning the mother alive on the streets.
RE:Rediff should Act
by Arsenal on Jul 27, 2008 08:24 PM Permalink
Well Said my brother. As a s Sikh I know how it feels like experiencing a religious riot when screams are heard all through the night. I have seen it, and I know that sometimes blood boils to take revenge.
But as an Indian we all have to come together. Togadia and Modi must be hanged otherwise there's no justice in India.
RE:Rediff should Act
by Narad on Jul 27, 2008 08:29 PM Permalink
Rediff is pro not anti muslim; so many of my postings are blacklisted under excuse of abuse
if god is formless according to your religion ISLAM why not we give some name and shape and pray to him.....god is everywhere no?....god is everywhere in stones, nature, rivers no?....there is no harm in praying to different energies of god....god is formless in hinduism too....we pray different stones becoz god is democratic in hinduism unlike an dictator in islam
RE:formless
by whereisthepoint on Jul 27, 2008 08:20 PM Permalink
Who asked you not to worship stones? Islam has no dictator but it does not stop you from doing that either...you can assemble all the mountains and no Muslim will stop you even if they do not agree with you. I live in the company of Muslims so I know.
RE:RELIGIOUS VERSES
by Omar on Jul 27, 2008 08:14 PM Permalink
Really...did u read the quotes before bomb blast ? why the hell u did not tell us ...we wud've killed who was taking for ride ? when we muslims conduct forums for u to understan islam or debate with hindu scholar...u guys run out of fear that if u here u get converetd etc...we call u to come common terms between us and U....but u do not response...now throw any crap out of ur frustration...
RE:RELIGIOUS VERSES
by Sadhan Pande on Jul 27, 2008 08:19 PM Permalink
The kind of killing that we are witnessing is the result of "jihadi" teachings only! Suo moto ! Without a reason 1 Somebody is hated and somebody else is killed!
Some ciongressmen qand communists QUOTE "GODHRA" WITHOUT BOTHERING TO RECOGNISE THE SUO MOTO BURNING OF KARSEVAKS IN A TRAIN COMPARTMRNT! THE AFTERMATH IS A DIRECT RETALIATION! IT HAS A MEANING! BUT THE BLASTS TALIKNG LIVES ? NO MEANING ! ANIMALITY IN PERSON! OUT OF 'MADRASSAH' TEACHINGS! WHY THE SECULAR MEN ARE SILENT ON THIS? ACTUALLY INDIA IS NOT SECULAR ! THE WORD "SECULAR "IS UTTERED TO MAKE THE SUFFERER "HINDUS" ,QUIET! HOW LONG THIS ONE SIDEDNESS OF CONGRESS AND ITS ALLIES WILL CONTINUE? DEMOCRACY HAS BECOME A FARCE!
RE:RELIGIOUS VERSES
by Gazanfar Z Azmi on Jul 27, 2008 08:14 PM Permalink
Read Mahabharat and c how all of Kauravas were killed/slaugtered by deceit bbased on the quote of Krishna ...
RE:The key to tackling Islamist fundamentalism
by Omar on Jul 27, 2008 08:17 PM Permalink
Dear Brother..something well said..if u've noticed educated muslims have started conducting conferences to read quran with understanding which removes misconception at the same time..muslim forums discussed in bangalore with Sri.RaviShankar to live peacefully...we even promoted reading vedas , sanskrit to understand hindus...unfortunate british policy of DIVIDE NAD RULE IS working....just pray we educate muslims more..BTW...we call ourselves more devote muslims...Islam says in Quran "killing a man is equvivalent to killing entire humanty and saving one is like saving Humanity"...just pray for us...
RE:religion of peace
by jaya muthuvat on Jul 27, 2008 08:05 PM Permalink
Islam is a dogmatic and egoistic religion. Get out from these menace. There is no need of any religion to live in these world. Being a "Kafir" is not a bad idea.
RE:religion of peace
by Sami on Jul 27, 2008 08:23 PM Permalink
NOTE: below are not my comment, it has been posted by others
Yeaah very true....your religion is best...who have 300 CRoRES of stones to be worshipped yet they cannot help capture terrosits...how is this possible...while God let his wife KIDNAPPED --- Ram Vs SITA...ravana was much powerful right who screwed ur RAMA...or u thinnk BABUR screwed RAMA ? what is your religion = you are fighting for RAMA = he could not save his own wife , for so many years with help of MONKEYS he got his wife back, also suspecting she's impure ? wat complexity man...while ur so called krishna enjoy nude beaches taking clothes of girls away...so BAN HINDUISM ?see the teachings of the book before u open that rot between ur teeth so ur Krishna's seeing nude girls---this religion called Pro-Porno ???? having illegal girl friend RADHA ....wat a example from ur god...many such wife's of urs are legal to someone ??? good religion...this is PEACE..
Okay.. we have 1000 gods.. and we worship stones.. but how does it matter to you? Has any Hindu asked you how do you worship Allah?
Tell me one simple thing.. how does this justify killing of innocents.. and you can also see that even muslims are getting killed in these blasts.. so are they also 'kafirs'?????
It is only because of people like you that allow themselves to be brainwashed by terrorists -- that these kind of blasts happen? If you have to seek revenge, seek it against the politicians - have guts to strike from the front, and not from the back -- like the terrorist cowards have always done! What sort of bravery is this, that you explode a bomb, that kills even minor children! Is this bravery?? Before you speak on religion, look into your religion, and ask yourself why is Islam always the center of attention? Can you give a logical reason.. Mr Omar????
RE:religion of peace
by whereisthepoint on Jul 27, 2008 08:31 PM Permalink
Mr Srikanth P, if any Muslim tells you not to worship 1000 stones, please tell them that the Quran allows you your freedom. Nobody is responsible for another's act. But dont confuse politics and religion. Terrorism is bred in politics, see the targets are politicians, politics and big guns who play with the law.
RE:religion of peace
by Omar on Jul 27, 2008 08:35 PM Permalink
Dear Brother..something well said..if u've noticed educated muslims have started conducting conferences to read quran with understanding which removes misconception at the same time..muslim forums discussed in bangalore with Sri.RaviShankar to live peacefully...we even promoted reading vedas , sanskrit to understand hindus...unfortunate british policy of DIVIDE NAD RULE IS working....just pray we educate muslims more..BTW...we call ourselves more devote muslims...Islam says in Quran "killing a man is equvivalent to killing entire humanty and saving one is like saving Humanity"...just pray for us...
TO answer first part...it's bcoz some guys unnecessary thowing nonsense about Islam..well many muslims on forum tried best to explain Islam...looks like Knickerwallas do not wanna hear with fear of CONVERSION may be....by the way...we have forum to educate all madrasaas on engslih , policies to save them so called JIHADIST...which every pious muslim condemns...ofcourse if someone wants harm my home...will hit back ...we are the one who started first war of independence @ 1857 do not teach us nationlism and love for that....all best scholars were killed by british bcoz we fought for India...that's death I and very pious muslim wish...
RE:religion of peace
by kalyan ram on Jul 27, 2008 08:11 PM Permalink
if god is formless according to your religion why not we give some name and shape and pray to him.....god is everywhere no?....god is everywhere in stones, nature, rivers no?....there is no harm in praying to different energies of god....god is formless in hinduism too....we pray different stones becoz god is democratic in hinduism unlike an dictator in islam
RE:RE:religion of peace
by Omar on Jul 27, 2008 08:38 PM Permalink
u said santhan dharma...do u know wat it talks ? God as Formless....wanna some lecture on vedas ? or some verses to support...perhaps u ignorant u may not event know sanskirt to appreciate ur santhan dharma...well how can u...ur typical Knicker walla
