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Is it vote bank politics?
by Sastry on Jul 27, 2008 11:53 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Many Hindus are writing on and on that congress is harming the nation because of its minority appeasement politics and pseudo secularism. I also subscribe to that view. I was seriously thinking about it for quite some time. What should be done to safeguard ourselves from the jehadi terrorism?
A) If it is indeed true that Congress/left are with the minorities so as to get their votes, then they cannot be blamed because a political party has to win elections so it can get the power; (Corruption is a common factor though it could be of varying degree). WE CAN COUNTER THIS VOTE BANK BY BECOMING ANOTHER BANK OURSELVES; AFTER ALL WE ARE IN A VERY HUGE MAJORITY; Even if half of us who don't vote vote turn out in the elections, then the result could be immediately visible. So go out and vote along with every body known to you.
B) Irrespective of your faith in God, visit temples regularly so that there is a degree of cohesion. We should COPY THAT FROM MUSLIMS WITHOUT BEING ASHAMED ABOUT IT.
C) NEVER CONTRIBUTE ANYTHING IN A TEMPLE CONTROLLED BY THE GOVERNMENT.
D)Patronize only HINDU Businesses;
E) Try to convince fellow Hindus about how they have been fooled to pluck their eyes with their own hands; There is no need for jehadi if we can implement these simple and practical options. NO NEED TO HAVE ANY HATRED TOWARDS NON-HINDUS.
PLEASE PONDER VERY SERIOUSLY.
JAIHIND.

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RE:Is it vote bank politics?
by Rationalist on Jul 27, 2008 11:57 PM  Permalink
You are absolutely right. Even though we do'nt have faith in God we should visit temples. That is something we need to do to counter Islamic agenda. Keep spreading the message.

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RE:Is it vote bank politics?
by Loan Shark on Jul 27, 2008 11:58 PM  Permalink
congess is fair and equal ... BJP plays divisive vote politics and has divided India with its venom of hate

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RE:Is it vote bank politics?
by Sastry on Jul 28, 2008 12:02 AM  Permalink
I am not canvassing for BJP even though I will vote for it because they are not as brazenly corrupt as others are; What i am stating is that even congress will crawl on its knees if they are to retain or acquire power; The moment a political party understands this half the problem is solved. Right?
So far as I am concerned Religion is a totally personal matter.

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RE:Is it vote bank politics?
by Rationalist on Jul 28, 2008 12:04 AM  Permalink
Yes. BJP plays divisive politics because it unites Hindus. Congress is fair & equal because it divides Hindus.

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Inhumans
by Moumita Boral on Jul 27, 2008 11:53 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

These terrorists don't belong to any any religion, race, or caste. They are just a blot in the name of humanity. Becoz no religion teaches us to take the lives of others and unfortunately the so called/self-made owners of every religion think its their moral right to kill people. God knows where the world is taking us, have people really lost their morality, come on look at this picture, Its blasphemous. Even animals show compassion towards the young ones of other animals, there have examples when tigers and lions have spared a baby deer or a young one of another animal and went for hunting elsewhere. So what to understand that a man is the deadliest creature of all animals born on earth, becoz God has given us brains so some people want to utilize it in making bombs and taking life of others. Its sinful and even the word inhuman it seems is falling short in describing such dastardly and cowardice act. Don't know what to say?

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RE:Inhumans
by Sastry on Jul 28, 2008 12:05 AM  Permalink
Many Hindus are writing on and on that congress is harming the nation because of its minority appeasement politics and pseudo secularism. I also subscribe to that view. I was seriously thinking about it for quite some time. What should be done to safeguard ourselves from the jehadi terrorism?
A) If it is indeed true that Congress/left are with the minorities so as to get their votes, then they cannot be blamed because a political party has to win elections so it can get the power; (Corruption is a common factor though it could be of varying degree). WE CAN COUNTER THIS VOTE BANK BY BECOMING ANOTHER BANK OURSELVES; AFTER ALL WE ARE IN A VERY HUGE MAJORITY; Even if half of us who don't vote vote turn out in the elections, then the result could be immediately visible. So go out and vote along with every body known to you.
B) Irrespective of your faith in God, visit temples regularly so that there is a degree of cohesion. We should COPY THAT FROM MUSLIMS WITHOUT BEING ASHAMED ABOUT IT.
C) NEVER CONTRIBUTE ANYTHING IN A TEMPLE CONTROLLED BY THE GOVERNMENT.
D)Patronize only HINDU Businesses;
E) Try to convince fellow Hindus about how they have been fooled to pluck their eyes with their own hands; There is no need for jehadi if we can implement these simple and practical options. NO NEED TO HAVE ANY HATRED TOWARDS NON-HINDUS.
PLEASE PONDER VERY SERIOUSLY.
JAIHIND.

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This has to stop (Corrected version)
by Laker on Jul 27, 2008 11:51 PM  Permalink 

The Muslims hatred over Hindus should stop. This is not something new, this has been continuing since 1000 years from the days of first Mughal invasion. Ghori, Ghazni, Jahangir, Aurangazeb, Babar, the Turks, the Kazhaks... have all tormented Hindus with a passion. It is in their blood to hate Hindus and it will not stop. The Hindus have to stop taking this any more and fight back.

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What Does Islam Say about Terrorism?
by yahya on Jul 27, 2008 11:50 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Islam, a religion of mercy, does not permit terrorism. In the Quran, God has said:
God does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with those who have not fought you about religion and have not driven you out of your homes. God loves just dealers. (Quran, 60:8)

The Prophet Muhammad used to prohibit soldiers from killing women and children,1 and he would advise them: {...Do not betray, do not be excessive, do not kill a newborn child.}2 And he also said: {Whoever has killed a person having a treaty with the Muslims shall not smell the fragrance of Paradise, though its fragrance is found for a span of forty years.}3

Also, the Prophet Muhammad has forbidden punishment with fire.4

He once listed murder as the second of the major sins,5 and he even warned that on the Day of Judgment, {The first cases to be adjudicated between people on the Day of Judgment will be those of bloodshed.6}7

Muslims are even encouraged to be kind to animals and are forbidden to hurt them. Once the Prophet Muhammad said: {A woman was punished because she imprisoned a cat until it died. On account of this, she was doomed to Hell. While she imprisoned it, she did not give the cat food or drink, nor did she free it to eat the insects of the earth.}8

He also said that a man gave a very thirsty dog a drink, so God forgave his sins for this action. The Prophet was asked, “Messenger of God, are we rewarded for kindness towards animals?” He said: {There is a reward for kindness to every liv

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RE:What Does Islam Say about Terrorism?
by Laker on Jul 27, 2008 11:52 PM  Permalink
What good is the theories if the people who read it don't follow.
I quote Swami Vivekananda's words
"The secret of religion lies not in the theories but in practice..to be good and to do good, that is the soul of religion"

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RE:RE:What Does Islam Say about Terrorism?
by yahya on Jul 28, 2008 12:00 AM  Permalink
He said: {There is a reward for kindness to every living animal or human.}9

Additionally, while taking the life of an animal for food, Muslims are commanded to do so in a manner that causes the least amount of fright and suffering possible. The Prophet Muhammad said: {When you slaughter an animal, do so in the best way. One should sharpen his knife to reduce the suffering of the animal.}10

In light of these and other Islamic texts, the act of inciting terror in the hearts of defenseless civilians, the wholesale destruction of buildings and properties, the bombing and maiming of innocent men, women, and children are all forbidden and detestable acts according to Islam and the Muslims. Muslims follow a religion of peace, mercy, and forgiveness, and the vast majority have nothing to do with the violent events some have associated with Muslims. If an individual Muslim were to commit an act of terrorism, this person would be guilty of violating the laws of Islam.

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RE:What Does Islam Say about Terrorism?
by Laker on Jul 28, 2008 12:03 AM  Permalink
Then why don't the good guys like you enlight your community to stop committing to this kind of terror acts ?


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RE:What Does Islam Say about Terrorism?
by Anand sodo on Jul 27, 2008 11:57 PM  Permalink
All Prophets,Saints and Acharyas have always spoken about LOVE but there are SCOUNDRELS in every religion who take it upon themselves to save their GOD because they doubt their gods ability to save himself!!!!

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RE:RE:What Does Islam Say about Terrorism?
by yahya on Jul 28, 2008 12:05 AM  Permalink
THE LAST JUDGEMENT IS NEAR, THINK PRACTISE ISLAM. THANKS 2 ALLAH MANY ARE PRACTISING ISLAM ... COUNT YOURSELF BEFORE YOU ARE COUNTED ON DAT DAY....THE LAST JUDGEMENT IS NEAR ... SO BE AND PRACTISE LIKE A TRUE MUSLIM .....FOLLOW ISLAM...EVERYTHING IS CLEAR ... BUT U JUST KNOW HOW 2 PRAY IN FRONT OF IDOL .....U ALL ARE ILLITERATE

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RE:What Does Islam Say about Terrorism?
by Rationalist on Jul 28, 2008 12:08 AM  Permalink
Does your Allah not have any other business other than judging people who come after their last day?

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RE:What Does Islam Say about Terrorism?
by yahya on Jul 28, 2008 12:14 AM  Permalink
S ITS TRUE U ALL ARE ILLITERATES U DONT EVER THOUGHT OR KNOW WHO HAVE CREATED U....ISLAM RELIGION FROM ALLAH ... IF FOLLOWS HEAVEN IF NOT HELL.... HERE IN WORLD AND AS WELL AS HEREAFTER(AFTER JUDGEMENT).....

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RE:What Does Islam Say about Terrorism?
by yahya on Jul 27, 2008 11:54 PM  Permalink
He said: {There is a reward for kindness to every living animal or human.}9

Additionally, while taking the life of an animal for food, Muslims are commanded to do so in a manner that causes the least amount of fright and suffering possible. The Prophet Muhammad said: {When you slaughter an animal, do so in the best way. One should sharpen his knife to reduce the suffering of the animal.}10

In light of these and other Islamic texts, the act of inciting terror in the hearts of defenseless civilians, the wholesale destruction of buildings and properties, the bombing and maiming of innocent men, women, and children are all forbidden and detestable acts according to Islam and the Muslims. Muslims follow a religion of peace, mercy, and forgiveness, and the vast majority have nothing to do with the violent events some have associated with Muslims. If an individual Muslim were to commit an act of terrorism, this person would be guilty of violating the laws of Islam.

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RE:What Does Islam Say about Terrorism?
by Rationalist on Jul 28, 2008 12:01 AM  Permalink
The problem is with the cryptic nature of Islam. At one place it has verses which forbid terrorism, at other places it inspires its followers to create terror in the minds of disbeleivers.
In minority it preaches secularism. In majority it preaches facism.

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RE:What Does Islam Say about Terrorism?
by V H on Jul 27, 2008 11:56 PM  Permalink
Yahya... you are a perfect example how double speak Islam is. During the broad daylight you keep saying Islam is religion of peace and at night go back ally to plant bombs.

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RE:RE:What Does Islam Say about Terrorism?
by Anand sodo on Jul 28, 2008 12:03 AM  Permalink
This is a reply for V H - Are you so sure about Yahya planting the Bombs? - If, in your own opinion yahya could be a moderate guy - dont forget your statements will convince him to turn away from being a moderate to being an extremist - this is how people like you create hatred for yourself and all other hindus

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This has to stop
by Laker on Jul 27, 2008 11:50 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

The Muslims hatred over Hindus should stop. This is something new, this has been continuing since 1000 years since the days of first Mughal invasion. Ghori, Ghazni, Jahangir, Aurangazeb, Babar, the Turks, the Kazhaks... have all tormented Hindus with a passion. It is in their blood to hate Hindus and it will not stop. The Hindus have to stop taking this any more and fight back.

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RE:This has to stop
by yahya on Jul 28, 2008 12:15 AM  Permalink
S I SUPPORT U UR WRIGHT.... MAY GOD SHOW U ALL STRAIGHT PATH...............

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RE:This has to stop
by Laker on Jul 28, 2008 12:10 AM  Permalink
Shut up stupid Narayan. People like you are fostering and encouraging the terrorists. Don't be a coward....if one of your family member get affected by this kind of terrorist activity you wouldn't be defending Islam.

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BRING BACK -POTA,IF U CAN'T CONGRESS PLEASE STEP DOWN
by Guest on Jul 27, 2008 11:41 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Bring back POTA-advani should be the next PM of hindus-hindustan.........what you say guys....jai hind

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RE:BRING BACK -POTA,IF U CAN'T CONGRESS PLEASE STEP DOWN
by rocker on Jul 27, 2008 11:44 PM  Permalink
Also UPA has indulged so much in anti hindu activities,any self respecting hindu will not vote for cong.

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RE:RE:BRING BACK -POTA,IF U CAN'T CONGRESS PLEASE STEP DOWN
by aoneall on Jul 27, 2008 11:47 PM  Permalink
Knickerwallahs in any case do not vote for any body else other than whomsoever they are ordered to vote by Hedgewar Bhawan, Nagpur.

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RE:BRING BACK -POTA,IF U CAN'T CONGRESS PLEASE STEP DOWN
by aoneall on Jul 27, 2008 11:45 PM  Permalink
Support of knickerwallahs is not sufficient to make Advani even MP. Remember, a novice like Rajesh Khanna almost defeated him in New Delhi? Also, he is main accused in Babri Masjid demolition case and it may be that he is in prison before he tries to become something like PM.

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RE:BRING BACK -POTA,IF U CAN'T CONGRESS PLEASE STEP DOWN
by Loan Shark on Jul 27, 2008 11:55 PM  Permalink
yes, when Rajesh khanna beat him up, Advani ran away to gandhinagar

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RE:BRING BACK -POTA,IF U CAN'T CONGRESS PLEASE STEP DOWN
by Loan Shark on Jul 27, 2008 11:49 PM  Permalink
anyone but Lal Krishan Jinnah for India's PM

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RE:Kick modi out
by rocker on Jul 27, 2008 11:46 PM  Permalink


and you people are best in burning innocents alive in a train.

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RE:Kick modi out
by santhosh on Jul 27, 2008 11:47 PM  Permalink
you mean...ur are shiak abdulla..even u clean toilets and wash and lick shaik 's dic world knows it......you and ur famly is respected today jus b'coz of our constitution..and we indian hindus,,,,mind it ...jai hind

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RE:Kick modi out
by Rationalist on Jul 27, 2008 11:48 PM  Permalink
You are not ashamed to comment like this you saddist. You proved of what mettle muslims are made of?

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RE:Kick modi out
by Rationalist on Jul 27, 2008 11:49 PM  Permalink
Terrorists are doing this under cover. If they dare ask them come out in open like they did in Godhra. This is not a challenge won as yet.

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RE:Tit for Tat
by aslil chhabi on Jul 27, 2008 11:44 PM  Permalink
don't spread hatred in the name of religion it and become one true indian.U r sick,hope u get out of the desease and become the true indian.

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RE:RE:Tit for Tat
by Anand sodo on Jul 27, 2008 11:43 PM  Permalink
Because the muslim is ready to blast himself(I am not arguing the good or bad but stating a fact)while the Hindu wants someone else to blast himself for the cause.

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RE:Tit for Tat
by rocker on Jul 27, 2008 11:47 PM  Permalink

LOL for your ID ! ha! ha!

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