It was Budddhadev Bhattachary's initiative to do development, industrialsation, job creation, better infrastructure that god CPIM more support and MPs in Bengal and also elsewhere. Now this Dictator Karat will destroy the CPIM base by being anti-development and trying to block India's progress towards greater electrification thru neuclear power.
RE:Downfall of CPIM
by udayakumar on Jul 25, 2008 03:02 PM Permalink
Hello... individuals cannot do anything in Left. Please know their working before making any comment. Any decision is made by party... not by Budha not by Karat.. Your argument is hallow.
RE:Downfall of CPIM
by udayakumar on Jul 26, 2008 07:46 AM Permalink
Yes Roy.. You are right. People do not know that the General secretary of communist party was removed from the post and was asked to serve as typist in the party office for defying party collective decision.. No use in talking to people who do not read, understand.. they just spit here something..
RE:Downfall of CPIM
by centerofright on Jul 26, 2008 02:27 PM Permalink
That was because he was fit only as a typist and not as a general secretary. Wasn't it the parties fault that they made such a person as general secretary
The CPI(M) by its adamant attitude has not only lost the leverage but also appears to have been dumped. The UPA will go in full vigour for economic liberalization in the next one year thanks to its winning the confidence motion in the Parliament. By expelling the Speaker, who is constitution bound, the party stands to lose much of its image in the eyes of people who are leaned towards socialism. It will be a double loss.
People remember how ironical it was for the communists to tell Netaji Subhas 'a Tozo's dog", long back when Subhas was trying to make the 'azad hind force 'from outside resources!Which leader of India could show that mettle? The communists themselves have imported an ideology, whicj was long abandoned in Europe itself! Now their leaders say 'we have to change" Make sense oh communists! In India there are something more than the material objects!that the communists of the land of origination didnot know!Will you also ignore? ITS FOOLISH AS IT WAS TO CALL NETAJI A TOZO'S DOG! MANY THINGS ARE REQUIRED TO BE LEARNT BY YOU THE COMMUNISTS AND WHEN YOU DO IT YOU WILL FIND THE ABANDONNED RATHER BANNED 'JANSANGH' WAS IN THAT PATH! IT WAS NEHRU WHO KILLED DR SHYAMA PRASAD OR ELSE YOU COMMUNISTS WOULD VANISH INTO ETERNITY! SO CHANGE YOUR NAME FROM COMMUNISTS TO SOMETHING ELSE AND THINK INDIAN!OR ELSE PERISH!
People condemning bengal and Keral should understand the toLerance allowed in these states.. they introspect themselves why Mother Tersea could work only in calcutta and not in Gujarat.. why Mata could work only in Kerala and not in Bombay..Its the hard work of millions of people that you have all enjoyed are now turing back..Think...Dont be a slave of US & UK
RE:People condemning bengal and Keral should understand the toLerance allowed in these states.. Left is the only alternative Think
by Vamsi Kiran Kapuganty on Jul 25, 2008 03:17 PM Permalink
Mother Teresa could work in Calcutta because she was a christian. Who dares touch non Hindus??? Its the Hindus who suffer a lot. Otherwise Hindu organisation also would have been amillion times stronger than what they are now
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by Jai Max on Jul 25, 2008 03:40 PM Permalink
Could you please clarify the point you are making? Do you mean Mother Theresa looked after only christians
RE:People condemning bengal and Keral should understand the toLerance allowed in these states.. Left is the only alternative Think
by nihichsu on Jul 26, 2008 04:53 AM Permalink
Jai Max - do not be naive. Centre of Right means that Mother Teresa helped HIndus to convert to christianity by helping them first with the disease, or the poverty or some other thing. CoR has a point - Why did not this Croatian lady go to Africa to treat the lepers there who were Christians by faith? Because they were christians and you cannot convert a christian to christianity but you need that the downtrodden or ill people to be of any other faith. If she had gone to a Muslim country - she would have been butchered within months if not days. But in India she has become "Devi" as her offices are just next to Maha Kali temple in Calcutta and we Hindus are tolerant beyond all limits. Do you think that before advent of Mother Teresa the lepers in India were thrown into rivers or burnt alive? This all is publicity of the evangelists.
RE:People condemning bengal and Keral should understand the toLerance allowed in these states.. Left is the only alternative Think
by neil alvares on Jul 25, 2008 03:34 PM Permalink
VAMSI LETS SEE U PICKING ONE LEPER THEN WELL TALK BOSS OTHERWISE SHUT YOUR GAG ABOUT HINDUS organisations DOING THIS AND THAT,if u are suffering join mr bal thackeray and fill your pockets on the misery of hindus
RE:People condemning bengal and Keral should understand the toLerance allowed in these states.. Left is the only alternative Think
by centerofright on Jul 25, 2008 05:01 PM Permalink
you will pick one leper, clean him, show the world how good you are. then using that example you will open hospitals and schools. You will treat people and give education, finally for all that you have done you will ask them to convert. So you need poor, lepers and diseased to grow your faith. Why don't you go and treat lepers and poor in africa who are already christians
RE:People condemning bengal and Keral should understand the toLerance allowed in these states.. Left is the only alternative Think
by Jai Max on Jul 25, 2008 05:15 PM Permalink
I don't want to get embroiled in any of these religious controversies. But as a rationalist I must ask you the question. If Christians are not taking care of Christians in Africa, does this not provide an opportunity for you to take care of such people in Africa and spread Hinduism all over the world? No offense meant. Some times I really find it difficult not to question illogical arguments
RE:People condemning bengal and Keral should understand the toLerance allowed in these states.. Left is the only alternative Think
by ramu on Jul 25, 2008 02:49 PM Permalink
This is a matter of investigation whether commies were getting instructions from China to stall the development of India
RE:People condemning bengal and Keral should understand the toLerance allowed in these states.. Left is the only alternative Think
by udayakumar on Jul 25, 2008 02:55 PM Permalink
Well said sada. Bengal has produced the greatest people for the country. All nobel prize winners from India have had the roots in bengal. They are culturally and socially well ahead.. That is why they embrace left.
RE:People condemning bengal and Keral should understand the toLerance allowed in these states.. Left is the only alternative Think
by ramu on Jul 25, 2008 02:57 PM Permalink
They were.Not now
RE:People condemning bengal and Keral should understand the toLerance allowed in these states.. Left is the only alternative Think
by Diyus Rahul on Jul 25, 2008 03:02 PM Permalink
Please dont make us laugh with your silly comments, Bengal and Kerala have become part of casual jokes. TO say Bengal is tolerant after nandigram and it known to everyone how the leftiest amfia works in kerala and you call it tolerant, wake up buddy, Good Morning
RE:People condemning bengal and Keral should understand the toLerance allowed in these states.. Left is the only alternative Think
by Jai Max on Jul 25, 2008 03:04 PM Permalink
You must understand why Mother Theresa chose to work in West Bengal. Because there was no other State in this country with such appalling levels of misery and poverty. It only shows the true colour of the leftist parties to say that your government tolerated the work done by Mother Theresa. There could be nothing more insulting to her great soul. No body has to tolerate. Every State in this country would have welcomed her to work. She chose West Bengal because of the abject misery that people faced in that State
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by Jai Max on Jul 25, 2008 03:16 PM Permalink
Why don't you at least say that it has been written by a paid writer and therefore you do not wish to respond. This is how left prejudges every one and everything without knowing the real truth
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by Jai Max on Jul 25, 2008 03:13 PM Permalink
Post your response to the above reply Shri Sadasivan
I do not think Karat ever went through the classes conducted by Government for MPs. There are three constitutional posts on import i.e. the President of India, Vice president of India and the Speaker of Lok Sabha other than CEC etc... All these three positions are filled by the members of parliament. Most of the times candidates belong to different political parties. Which means the candidate nominated by a political party normally will be a primary member of that particular party. Once the elected candidate assumes office, he/she does not belong to any political party and is expected to act with out a bias.
Somnath has been expelled from the party as he refuded to obey the diktat of HIS Highness Shri Karat. Karat seems to have not learnt even the first chapter that the Speaker belongs to no political party. Karat may have his own reasons but I have a very simple question to him and I request readers to pose this question to him if some one really gets to Karat. My question is:
What should the President of India, Ms.Pratibha Patil and Vice President Mr.Hamid Ansari (who is also the Chairman of Rajya Sabha) should if in the next elections Congress/UPA does not come in power. I am posing this question as both President and Vice President belonged to Congress before they assumes offices. As per HIS Highness Karat's philosophy they both should resign if Congress/UPA does not come in power in next elections.
Mr.Karat wake up and learn basics of parliamentary systems or else
RE:Introspect
by udayakumar on Jul 25, 2008 02:51 PM Permalink
This is bullshit question. What about sivaraj patil and Manohar joshi? They are in active politics even now. But you cant see an ex-president or vice-president. Somnath continued to be a party member even after becoming speaker. That means, he paid the monthly levy as per the constitution of the party. As long as he continued as a member, he is to abide by party rules. Party is above individuals.
RE:Introspect
by K.R on Jul 25, 2008 03:00 PM Permalink
But nation is above parties and the speaker holds one of the very important posts of the country....
RE:Introspect
by siddhartha srivastava on Jul 25, 2008 03:01 PM Permalink
I pity on you Uday. My question relates to President and Vice President WHO ARE IN OFFICE. Shivraj Patil and Manohar Joshi resumed their political activities only after the were no more `in office'. Its for the individual to decide to carry on with political activities after he/she vacates the office as has been done by Shivraj Patil etc.. Even our ex-president Narayanan attended Congress meetings after his term expired as President.
Please please please do not comment just for the sake of commenting.
Do you have the answer to my question?? What should the President and the Vice President do if any other political party comes in power.
My humble request to you is to first understand a comment before you ridicule any one.
RE:Introspect
by udayakumar on Jul 25, 2008 03:06 PM Permalink
President and vice-president are normally not MPs and they never vote in a trust motion. Your question is irrelevant. They cant be equated with speaker. Speaker can vote in a trust motion in case of tie(means they still have the power of the MP). Moreover, the party has given a ticket for him to the MP. He continues to be the member of the party. So party has every right to decide... Others can keep shut..
RE:RE:Introspect
by udayakumar on Jul 25, 2008 03:07 PM Permalink
Moreover left never tried to manipulate his office. Just asked him to resign and join the bandwagon..
RE:Introspect
by siddhartha srivastava on Jul 25, 2008 03:16 PM Permalink
I suggest you study some more. You have yourself said that Speaker can vote in case of a tie. What do you understand by this?? It means that its a constitutional requirement for the speaker to vote in case of a tie not a right of the Speaker as a member of parliament. Its good that you raised this. The fact that the Speaker can vote only as a judge or in case of a tie differentiate him from other MPs.
As regards ticket. let me tell you that it is the political party which fields a candidate for President or Vice President or the Speaker. Which in turn means that the party gives a `ticket' to that particular person to contest for the post of a President or Vice President or the Speaker.
Please learn a bit more. No, no need. You can learn a lot here as well. Just go through comments on your reply to my comments.
RE:RE:Introspect
by siddhartha srivastava on Jul 25, 2008 03:18 PM Permalink
Uday you seem to be worshiping Karat. Can you reach him? If yes, please pose this question to him first and let us all know his views.
RE:Introspect
by Ajikumar Achary on Jul 25, 2008 04:28 PM Permalink
dear sidharth, pl. don't try teach mr. udhay, this is what our PM, for these years trying to make understand about nuclear deal to these cummies. still they don't know what is the profit of the deal. this is because they are brain washed by their party.so they can't think above party.
RE:Introspect
by Deb Basu on Jul 25, 2008 02:57 PM Permalink
AM glad you did not say party constitution is above Indian constitution. BTW - I hope you know that is what one of your revered politburo member Biman Bose said while justifying Somnath Chatterjee's expulsion.
RE:Introspect
by nihichsu on Jul 26, 2008 05:02 AM Permalink
The simple answer is that if Congress party asks Mrs. Pratibha Patil or Mr. Hamid Ansari to resign after Congress losses the next election - they should resign as Indian Politics is based on Party system from UK and not like the US - Presidential system. In India, the party can ask a member to resign because the member got elected to the august body of parliament on that Party's Ticket and not as an individual. Mr. Somnath Chatterjee was first an MP elected on the Left Party's ticket after which he became speaker - therefore if the Party asks him to resign he has to resign and if he does not he can be expelled from the party.
RE:Introspect
by udayakumar on Jul 26, 2008 07:53 AM Permalink
Equating the speaker post to President post is real bullshit. Only naive people will do it. Can you show me single example where the ex-president is an active politician or an MP? Somnath chatterjee is a party member still. So he is bound by the party rules. He has been removed only from party for defying party directive. He can very well continue as speaker. If you go to UK, what you are saying is right. As soon as one becomes speaker he has to resign from the party. it is not the case here. If a president or vice-president resigns, he/she will not become an MP of the party to vote. here it is so.. So dont compare. Both are diametrically different offices, different constitutional provisions.. Sidhardh, please read or at least consult with some one before airing irrelevant comparisions.
And final touch is Gujrat is becoming rich but WB is becoming poor.Commies do Nandigram and insult to lady Taslima.From all over the world slowly they are scraped out.In China too they are in real sense capatilist in the form of Hitler.In India they will die their last death.And with this will die brainwashed chicken Sahadevan KK who has got hates for Indians and their development
RE:To brainwashed commie Sahadevan KK who spills poison daily here for Indians
by kata dhon on Jul 25, 2008 02:41 PM Permalink
The CPM in Bengal, more than anything else has created a very bad work culture, which is anti-business and have managed to create a general aatitude among Bengalis to be anti-establishment and non working nature.This , I think is a deliberate Left attempt to weaken the economy of India to China's benefit.This is called intellectual anti-nationalism.
RE:To brainwashed commie Sahadevan KK who spills poison daily here for Indians
by ramu on Jul 25, 2008 02:45 PM Permalink
In the last four years commies were able to stall the progress of India.The results are high inflation,low gdp.They supported UPA just pull back Indian economy against china.It is a matter of investigation whether they were getting instructions from china
RE:To brainwashed commie Sahadevan KK who spills poison daily here for Indians
by payel sur on Jul 25, 2008 02:55 PM Permalink
u r right.after staying in W.B for 30 years,i have got one conclusion that the communist always work for the wrost of nation.
RE:To brainwashed commie Sahadevan KK who spills poison daily here for Indians
by udayakumar on Jul 25, 2008 02:42 PM Permalink
Please make informed comments.. Dont spray unproved assumptions here. What sadasivan said is worth pondering.
RE:RE:To brainwashed commie Sahadevan KK who spills poison daily here for Indians
by ramu on Jul 25, 2008 02:46 PM Permalink
In the last four years commies were able to stall the progress of India.The results are high inflation,low gdp.They supported UPA just pull back Indian economy against china.It is a matter of investigation whether they were getting instructions from china
RE:RE:RE:To brainwashed commie Sahadevan KK who spills poison daily here for Indians
by payel sur on Jul 25, 2008 02:58 PM Permalink
china is the 1st home of all communists,where they are parasite inINDIA.
BS Ragavan must read the conclusions of the left again. The historical blunder attributed to Jyothi Basu's Prime ministership was uttered by him and not the party's conclusion.
RE:Ragavan has to get the facts right
by vikash on Jul 25, 2008 03:07 PM Permalink
Mr. Udayakumar is CPI(M) paid person, he is not independent person, Gone are days when CPI would do anything by saam daam dhad bhed, Now we will punish these Udayakumar like people by calling him Mr. Slave of China or Anti Indian.
RE:Ragavan has to get the facts right
by udayakumar on Jul 26, 2008 07:56 AM Permalink
Thanks for your compliments vikash.. I prefer to be an Indian rather than slave of white skin of bush..
RE:Ragavan has to get the facts right
by centerofright on Jul 26, 2008 02:30 PM Permalink
But You will like to be the slave of the mongloid idiots who killed their own country men in millions. May be Pol Pot is your hero and you worship him daily.
