Constitution should change now and not a single member of parliament should absent during confidence vote. Most important is when any party withdraw support of govt. President should ask govt for confidence vote immi. i.e. next day or max after two days. If govt will get more days then it always happen "Kharidari" of members irrespective of party / parties in the govt.
"Thesis 5: Communist society will be a non-legal social order. Only the existence of classes and social inequality necessitates legal institutions and mechanisms. Because communism abolishes the conditions that produce law and also greatly simplifies and extends participation to all citizens, general requirements for legal regulations or processes are unnecessary.” [Reference: Piers Beirne and Alan Hunt, 1988, Law and the Constitution of Soviet Society: The Case of Comrade Lenin. Law & Society Review, Vol. 22, No. 3, pp. 575-614.]
The above two theses clearly depict the very root of CCCP (old Russia)! Studies and researchers on Marxism and Communism indicate that the power of CPIM / CPI will be uprooted from West Bengal as well as India in near future.
The case of Nandigram and other places in Bengal indicates tension between state and civil society. Separation of power is inevitable for those nouveau-riche & Comprador Bourgeoisie Marxists. In the words of Beirne & Hunt (1988) “The separation of powers, and with it the role of law, are sustained by the tension between state and civil society.”
As West Bengal is suffering from UTTER LAWLESSNESS, I quote Beirne & Hunt (1988) again to elucidate the FATE OF Lenin out of the same type of social crisis: “The need for this form of public law is the major lesson of the history of the first socialist experiment and the contribution to it, with its strengths, its weaknesses, and its silences, of Lenin”!
RE:GENERATORS OF KULAKS in West Bengal: Dejected Power of Marxism, Communism of West Bengal
by pramod on Jul 24, 2008 04:25 PM Permalink
we are in non-legal social order (rich will get everything where poor can not),communism will vanish this non-legal social order.It will bring the equality
RE:GENERATORS OF KULAKS in West Bengal: Dejected Power of Marxism, Communism of West Bengal
by padmakshi amma on Jul 24, 2008 05:09 PM Permalink
Dear Pramod, Pls dont see day dreams. Congress is not the old Congress under Mahathma Gandhi and CPM is no more the old party of the poor and needy as it had been in the past. Now every body is after power and money and CPM is not an exception. But exceptional leaders with no greed for money and position are there in all the parties including CPM. The world is changed my friend and now it is money power and muscle power we see in politics, in each and every party. So dont love any party as a whole, but admire good and honest politicians, irrespective of the party they belong to.
RE:GENERATORS OF KULAKS in West Bengal: Dejected Power of Marxism, Communism of West Bengal
by Jayanand KS on Jul 24, 2008 05:58 PM Permalink
if it is money game, why a single CPM MP was not in the corrupted list or offered huge money to vote for UPA ? This simple thing shows the difference between CPM and other parties.
RE:GENERATORS OF KULAKS in West Bengal: Dejected Power of Marxism, Communism of West Bengal
by Arijit on Jul 24, 2008 04:34 PM Permalink
You are in UTOPIA!! You people will vanish from WORLD!! I suggest you not to play with Karl Marx's name! What you people are doing is against morality, against humanity! I doubt whether these cummies are HUMAN BEING when I see corruption in localities, villages, work-places, roads, offices in West Bengal. Only the influential citizens enjoy the benefits who are associated with Pseudo-Communists! COMMON MEN, though they are tax-paters, CANNOT ENJOY A LITTLE BIT BENEFIT, HUMAN RIGHTS!!! Do you CALL THESE EQUAL RIGHTS promod? OPEN YOU EYES, AND STOP PREACHING EVIL FORCES like Communism.
CPI has the habit of bark like a mad dog without the ethics. They were ready to keep supporting the govt even when the price rise issue is killing the people of India, But when Govt fails to work in the interest of China CPI withdrew its support. A big slap is needed on all this CPI barking dogs who try showoff their fundamentalism and ethics. They are most opportunistic guys in the country. They enjoyed every bit of being in power but never took responsibility to lead Indian making any minister from them. Because, this would have been the show-stopper for them in the DOG barking habit.
Beirne & Hunt demonstrated “Notwithstanding several uncritical accounts by Soviet authors, there is no sustained treatment of Lenin's conception of law and legality in the transition from capitalism to communism”. Their 41-page article on the findings reveal many crucial facts which is still applicable for the sustenance of FEUDAL, RACIST, FASCIST, NEO-MARXIST CPIM/CPI. I quote below few lines from Beirne & Hunt (1988) which are self-explanatory: “This theoretical grounding of Lenin's concept of the dictatorship of proletariats (DoP) provides a key for unlocking both the coherence and the contradiction of his views on the role of law in the socialist transition. The coherence of his views can be expressed in the form of five theses (I quote only thesis 1 & 5 for limitation of space): Thesis 1: Bourgeois law is inherently limited to the unequal distribution relations on which it is founded. Yet during the bourgeois democratic revolution it provides a significant arena of struggle for securing universal political liberties – the cornerstone of the bourgeois democracy – and in which democratic forces can secure concessions from the ruling classes.
Once a person becomes a Lok Sabha speaker he does not belongs to any party. He belongs to the house. He should belong to the house. His parent party can request him but can not dictate him to abandon his post. CPM can even deny him to field him as one of their candidade. But no this action of expulsion is nothing but farcical. We need more strong willed and couragious person like Mr. Somnath Chatterji.
RE:RE:Farcical
by Guest on Jul 24, 2008 04:49 PM Permalink
AT FIRST SOMNATH CHATTERJEE IS A MP,AND ELECTED AS A CPI(M) CANDIDATE.SOMNATH CHATTERJEE ELECTED AS A SPEAKER AFTER THE NEGOTIATION BETWEEN CONG &CPIM.AT FIRST HE HAS TO FOLLOW THE RULES & THE DECESSION OF THE PARTY.
RE:Farcical
by Nadarajan on Jul 24, 2008 04:24 PM Permalink
my friend in a paper report it was mentioned that Mr.Chatterji wrote letter to Mr.Karat confirming that he don't want to vote aginst govt. alongwith BJP. It is not dignity etc. he opted for speaker chair to avoid voting along with bjp against govt.
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by prashant pande on Jul 24, 2008 04:31 PM Permalink
As per my openion Loksabha speaker should be a person who is not a member of parliament but work either as supreme court Judge like that so that he will not have any pressure of any party.
"We accepted that because we were supporting the government and no Speaker is made from the opposition as it would be difficult for the Government to function properly," This comment by Mr. KARAT be condemned
Anthropologist Ernest Gellner wrote in his article "Islam and Marxism: Some Comparisons" that the Marxist world of Eastern Europe and the Soviet Union and that of Islam are mirror-images of one another in two key respects. In Eastern Europe and the Soviet Union the Marxist faith has collapsed and people are yearning for the return of pluralistic civil society in preference to strong, centralized states. But there has been no loss of faith in the Muslim World, and though civil society has been eroded in Islamic societies there is little call for its return. Ernest Gellner offers an explanation of how these parallelisms came about in 1991 [Reference: Ernest Gellner, Islam and Marxism: Some Comparisons. International Affairs (Royal Institute of International Affairs 1944-), Vol. 67, No. 1, (Jan., 1991), pp. 1-6.]
Small nations like Singapore was not like its present state some 35 years back! Chinese residing in that state was untidy. They used to spit on the roads. There were several vices of the old Singapore. But when we see modern Singapore, it is having near-zero corruption level, and the people are having self-consciousness to do for betterment of mankind. When we look at West Bengal, we can see that the state of affairs are degrading gradually, instead of retaining it at the same level!
RE:Saga: CPI/CPIM and Comprador Bourgeoisie: Part-2
by pramod on Jul 24, 2008 04:22 PM Permalink
Arijit . How will you compare islam and marxist (if you want,compare hindus and islam). indian economic society is diffrent from singapoor,we can not follow that process,only communisam can feed the food for all the people who are under poverty line
RE:Saga: CPI/CPIM and Comprador Bourgeoisie: Part-2
by Arijit on Jul 24, 2008 04:27 PM Permalink
Do not consider the religious characteristics of Islam. Please see the fundamentalism character of the ideology! I have not compared these two! Recent journal papers, researches compare these two in regard to FUNDAMENTALIST character of COMMUNISM. In addition to FUNDAMENTALISM, Dictatorship is an issue of this OBSOLETE tool (i.e., Marxism)!!
I wonder whether the political party named as CPI/CPIM in India and Bengal is a party of Comprador Bourgeoisie! I quote just the 1st paragraph of a publication in a journal by Govt of West Bengal in 1978 January: "THE major goals of the Left Front Government over the long run should be: (a) reversal of the trend towards industrial stagnation, (b) arresting the growth of unemployment and providing for increased employment in the industrial as well as agricultural sectors; (c) encouraging the growth of small and cottage industries, (d) lessening the stranglehold of the monopoly houses and multinational firms on the economy of the State, (e) encouragement of indigenous technology and industrial self-reliance, (f) the gradual expansion of the public sector, and (g) increasing the control of the actual producers, that is, the workers, over the industrial sector." [Author: Government of West Bengal, “Industrial Policy for West Bengal". Social Scientist, Vol. 6, No. 6/7, Special Number of West Bengal, (Jan. - Feb., 1978), pp. 103-108.]
A comparative study reveals that the resolution of the 1st CPIM-led left govt in Bengal with that of their present resolution is contradictory THEREBY ORIGINATING A GROUP OF opportunists, Nouveau-riche, Kulaks, Comprador Bourgeoisie which have built political party like CPIM / CPI.
Speaker should always be above party politics and should not be dragged to controversies.It will be better to elect speaker from the majority group in case of a coalition government .Speaker should ideally be with the government in case of a tie and should support the government .If speaker is from smaller party and if that party withdraws support it will be very difficult for the speaker to decide as to which way he should act as it may adversely affect his future political career.In this case Somnath Chatterjee has taken a brave decision to stay on.
RE:SPEAKER
by nadeem saifi on Jul 24, 2008 04:16 PM Permalink
action has been taken under Article XIX, clause 13 of the Party Constitution for seriously compromising the position of the Party.
RE:SPEAKER
by Sreelekha Nair on Jul 24, 2008 04:15 PM Permalink
Karat himself is a Pro China Agent! and he is making CPIM a Prakash-Brinda Private Firm..
