Pl download and read The Necessity of Atheism by Dr. D.M. Brooks freely available at "Project Gutenberg". Also visit the web of "Actual Freedom - the third alternative" You will get some insight into the basic reasons for some of the humanbehaviours and possible remedies for the same. This is an alternative to organized religions.
YOU site what these books contain, what is their basis.. how we accept them as authentic work.
These people were not GOD to know basic reasons of anybodies actions.
We have Rented Authors, rented Scholors, Rented NGOs, Rented Historians in today's period. These groups of RENTED cr00ks produce as per demand and rate.
You better give reference that goes back to Aurangzeb and Tipu's period, and has any authenticity.
RE:@ Wahaj Faridy
by JGN on Jul 24, 2008 06:45 PM Permalink
Wahaj Faridy, you calim that you are a pious muslim but you have no qualm is abusing others calling them "Rightwing LIARS" etc!!!! Is this the culture you are talking about?
Have you seen me using abusive words for any one? Even if you do not agree with the other person's views, you can alwyas refute the same in a civilized way.
RE:YES Muslims DREAM of Caliphate in Whole World...
by Wahaj Faridy on Jul 24, 2008 06:18 PM Permalink
correction:
Of course Hindus are most welcome to spread idea of Ram rajya if they want to. But no group has Right to stop others speading their views in peaceful fashion
RE:YES Muslims DREAM of Caliphate in Whole World...
by JGN on Jul 24, 2008 06:17 PM Permalink
You could not achieve that in 1400 years despite all the forced conversions and patronage from the Sultans. How are you going achieve that now?
And of course the muslims would not hesitate to carry out even genocide for achieving their narrow religious agenda.
RE:RE:YES Muslims DREAM of Caliphate in Whole World...
by masu on Jul 24, 2008 06:33 PM Permalink
My Dear friend we have achieved a lot in last 1400 years which is visible my the rate of conversion people embrass islam and the reason for it is only ISLAM teached peace and believe in brotherhood understanding the way people embrass islam is there any other religion right now which is growing at this speed.I dont want to compare anything but what actually i want to convey is that if so many people embrass islam that itself proves that ISLAM is a peace loving and peace teaching religions other than other things Good Luck
RE:RE:RE:YES Muslims DREAM of Caliphate in Whole World...
by JGN on Jul 24, 2008 06:36 PM Permalink
Yes, we all can see that "loving and peace" the world over day in and day out. The proof of pudding is in eating. No need of any elaboration.
RE:YES Muslims DREAM of Caliphate in Whole World...
by JGN on Jul 24, 2008 06:24 PM Permalink
What about Aurangazeb? Indian history is replete with events where the Islmic invaders committed mass murder and forced conversions. Even Tippu Sultan had converted people of Malabar forcibly.
RE:YES Muslims DREAM of Caliphate in Whole World...
by JGN on Jul 24, 2008 06:30 PM Permalink
Pl read articles available at Wiki. Also "Calicut: The Citi of Truth revisited" by Prof. M.G.S. Narayanan, published by University of Calicut.
RE:YES Muslims DREAM of Caliphate in Whole World...
by Vinu Bhardwaj on Jul 24, 2008 07:30 PM Permalink
So you are saying Christians should be allowed in Islamic nations to spread their religion, including Saudi Arabia, in a peaceful manner?
RE:YES Muslims DREAM of Caliphate in Whole World...
by JGN on Jul 24, 2008 06:19 PM Permalink
Yes, we all can see that "peaceful fashion" the world around. Btw the hindus do not have any obsession for a country of their own. Had they wanted, India would have been a Hindu country at the time of partition itself. Thank the founding fathers of our nation for making it a secular democratic republic despite the animosities of partition.
RE:YES Muslims DREAM of Caliphate in Whole World...
by masu on Jul 24, 2008 06:30 PM Permalink
Do you mean at the time of independence of india there were no muslims in the country or else you mean that had india wanted it would have killed all muslims at that vey moment but to your correction whatever there is is india most of the places are because of mughals and they all were muslims. India parlimet= made my britishers Red Fort=Mughals Qutub Minar= Mughals Taj Mahal=Mughals Gwalior Fort=Mughals
RE:YES Muslims DREAM of Caliphate in Whole World...
by JGN on Jul 24, 2008 06:34 PM Permalink
What use is those monuments to the common man? Gandhi had said even god would not dare to appear in front a hungry man except in the form of bread.
RE:RE:YES Muslims DREAM of Caliphate in Whole World...
by JGN on Jul 24, 2008 06:35 PM Permalink
masu, do you mean to say that Pakistan declared itself as an Islamic country because there were no followers of other religions at the time of formation of that country? It is another matter that most of them have been wiped out from that country since then.
RE:YES Muslims DREAM of Caliphate in Whole World...
by masu on Jul 24, 2008 06:43 PM Permalink
Dear JGN I am not here to support india or pakistan but as you were discussing about muslims and the religion so that made me to reply this way.It is always better for all of us live in religion harmony and treat humans as humans and respect each others religion the way we all respect our religion. This is what my religion(ISLAM) teaches me. I wish you luck and success
RE:Brethrens
by joseph on Jul 24, 2008 06:05 PM Permalink
when muslims fight for their rights they r called terrorists biggest terrorist is one and only America
RE:RE:Brethrens
by JGN on Jul 24, 2008 06:09 PM Permalink
Mr. Wahaj Faridy, you will not see anything. Whether the killing of 30 lakh civilians by West Pakistan in East Pakistan (now Bengladesh) or 8 year long war between Iran and Iraq or attack on Kuwait by Saddam Hussein or the killing of more than 2 lakh khurds by Chemical Ali and Saddam Huessein or the Darfur massacre. All these are giant "zionist conspiracy" to malign the "religion of piece"!!!!
RE:RE:Brethrens
by JGN on Jul 24, 2008 06:14 PM Permalink
Ther is no terrorism anywhere in the world. Don't worry. All these are "zionist conspiracy" adn "hidden agenda of Sangh parivar"!!!!!
RE:Brethrens
by Gilli on Jul 24, 2008 06:14 PM Permalink
Why forgot major giant of terrorism Pakistan, a self styled Islamic nation separated out from India on the religious grounds.
Barely 5-6 groups comprising Punjabis, Baluchs, Mohazirs, Pushtus, Sindhi, all practising Muslims, but all after blood against each other. Shameful indeed.
JGN, I invite you to post as fresh message and let us argue. I blame you for being a LIAR who intentionally LIE about Muslims, Muslim History and their actions
RE:RE:RE:RE:Brethrens
by JGN on Jul 24, 2008 06:13 PM Permalink
You cannot make me beleive in any god and consequently about any revealation also. I do not beleive in any god (whether the jealous West Asian variety or the numerous Indian variety)
RE:Terrorist
by masu on Jul 24, 2008 05:16 PM Permalink
Dear This time it is little better that you have not mentioned any religion this is really shame in which innocent people are being killed but people who are carrying these acts will be punished very soon.
