Foundation of Islam is synthesis between terrorysm and governance on practcal scale and east west ideology on religion aspect. Quoran is synthesis of Rigved and Bible stories.
Mongols accepted it because it allowed them to have more than one women in their Harem and 72 of them after they die. You see, after all mongols were blood thirsty but very practical people. Why they should become hindu or budhist or othe kind because there is no fun in it. After havibng fun for time being, they soon run out of women and men and had to come up with a new version of Quoran-Medina version that allowed them to rape and murder as they like including muslims that do not agree to their brand of Islam. In fact more muslims are killed by moslems then any other people. Guy who wries about injustice to muslim needs to have psychiatric consultation and get some psychotherapy.
dear all human beings...it is not matter of hindus or muslims,every religion has some miscreants in it who live just to create hatred and derail communal harmony...whenever and whereever innocent killings take place it is condemnable what happened in gujrat or in jk or anywhere else is reallly shamefull.....for god's sake don't relate violence with religion....let's spread peace n love....and live peacefully...AAmeen
RE:jk blast
by Raghuvendra Kumar on Jul 25, 2008 11:49 AM Permalink
Mr.Imraan how true you are to your words will be proved if you go and preach these sentiments to your Muslim brethren, and request your priests to play your audio tape every Friday in the Mosques all over India. Please note that you will be shot dead by your own brethren for misbehaving in such a manner. The root cause of the whole trouble lies there in your mosques and misinterpretation of your religious text by the illiterate Priests in the mosques. I can’t believe that you are ignorant of this fact and please don’t try to act innocent. Do you remember what happened when the Muslims ignited the sentiments of Hindus by murdering the innocent Hindu Kar Sevaks in Godhra? The problems with Hindus are that they are too tolerant and have been taught tremendous patience and respect towards other religions, that is why you are still sharing your thoughts on Rediff otherwise technically speaking you all should have been respectfully in Pakistan.
RE:RE:jk blast
by Rajendra Rao on Jul 25, 2008 03:38 AM Permalink
Imran- Great sentiments, unfortunately will not happen in a million years.This is due to the dogma of Middle-Eastern Abrahamic cults with a narrow focus. If Mooselems are willing to give a little, things would be so much better for all.For example, why can't mooslems give the Ayodhya site for Ram temple? They have all of India to build their mosques, why hold on to our holy site?
RE:Jihad against Hindus of undivided India (638 - 1857)
by Mind Clear on Jul 24, 2008 09:38 PM Permalink
Muslims are still hallucinating with romantic ideas of the Ottoman Empire. The founding country of which, Turkey, have thrown all this into trash & have completely secularized and modernized, under the guidance of their great visionary, Attaruk, and are progressing leaps and bounds with their change to 'aggressive secularism' - of one law, uniform civil code and gender equality, strictly enforced by their military and judiciary as well. Islamic countries do not allow conversions as they are scared about giving equal rights, divorce, alimony, legal and economic rights to women. There is nothing there in Islam. It is a clever ploy to subjugate women and make noise when people question. All other religions follow uniform civil code in life.
Let us reply the Muslim murders in 2009 Let us reply in ballot boxes of 2009 Let us make the man the PM The man who demolished the mosque The man who showed that if temple can be demolised A mosque can also be demolised Let us make him the PM
RE:Let us
by JGN on Jul 24, 2008 09:59 PM Permalink
islam cannot bring peace into the world as it is an outdated ideology. All other societies have progressed into Secular democratic republics whereas the muslims are still nostalgic about some glorious Caliphates that existed more than 1400 years ago.
In fact all religions have outlived their utility and it is high time that we all got rid of the riligious dogmas for good.
RE:NO ONE CAN REFUTE BRUTALIZATION OF MUSLIMS
by kata dhon on Jul 24, 2008 09:06 PM Permalink
So Wahaj, before calling Modi a mass murderer, just ask yourself that Muslims are yesterday's and today's murderers, considering their killings in Kashmir.
RE:NO ONE CAN REFUTE BRUTALIZATION OF MUSLIMS
by kata dhon on Jul 24, 2008 09:03 PM Permalink
Taking your point, if yesterday Muslims were killed, so today u appove Muslims killing innocent Hindu people.That's what the Muslim brain we know-But Wahaj, Hindus will retaliate in a civilised democratic way.Hindus will ultimately vote the BJP RSS to Delhi.And that would be a strong reply enough-To elect the man ,who demolished your mosque.
RE:NO ONE CAN REFUTE BRUTALIZATION OF MUSLIMS
by Golden on Jul 24, 2008 09:12 PM Permalink
okay now it seems you have started talking in sane manner. so i shall talk to you...
no brother not at all. just because i am wronged, i have got no right to wrong any innocent.... but that oppression keeps going.. and that keeps the fighting for truth and justice alive...
muslims want justice, they dont want to fight and die. they want to live with peace but not a coward life when someone loots their property, rapes their women, and kills their child and they rap the peace song. no they cant do this, it is not allowed in islam. no matter how much you condemn islam but people know that musilms fight only for justice and if they are given justice they will not fight...
in gujrat, someone did train burning, a lot of poeple died...politicians say their own stories. did muslims say leave the attackers alive and spare them. NO but what this modi the buther did? he killed another thousands of innocents....what was their mistake, they did belong to same religion. is this justified...?
just think. that gujrat carnage created thousands of terrorists and they are all fighting to get justice...if you keep suppressing, they will keep emerging, you cant control them.
when butchers like jews could not finish palestines till now even after killing them with most sofisticated weapons then how do you think you can man.. think with brain....
the best solution is, give justice to muslims and they will be your best friends.
RE:NO ONE CAN REFUTE BRUTALIZATION OF MUSLIMS
by Rajendra Rao on Jul 25, 2008 03:48 AM Permalink
Give justice to mooslems? Modiji personally butchered thousands? What the heck are you yapping about? Mooslems get free Haj trips, they get to keep article 370 in Kashmir, they have quotas, they get to build the f...g mosques in predominantly Hindu areas (e.g., Jayanagar, Bangalore) and wake us up at 5 Am with call to namaz- They got Porkistan for mooslems, and now remaining maggots of Mohammed want the rest of India. Get a life man, you mooslems live in peace, and learn to respect Hindus.You continue this Jihad culture, killings will continue. The ball is in your court, and has been for 1000 years. Mooslems- give me--give me.. culture, never return the favor.
RE:@Wahaj Faridy
by Confused Mind on Jul 24, 2008 08:33 PM Permalink
The guy is still hallucinating with romantic ideas of the Ottoman Empire. The founding country of which, Turkey, have thrown all this into trash & have completely secularized and modernized, under the guidance of their great visionary, Attaruk, and are progressing leaps and bounds with their change to 'aggressive secularism' - of one law, uniform civil code and gender equality, strictly enforced by their military and judiciary as well. Islamic countries do not allow conversions as they are scared about giving equal rights, divorce, alimony, legal and economic rights to women. There is nothing there in Islam. It is a clever ploy to subjugate women and make noise when people question. All other religions follow uniform civil code in life. Hence, always be watchful when you deal with Muslims as they are very insecure.
RE:@Wahaj Faridy
by Confused Mind on Jul 24, 2008 08:32 PM Permalink
The guy is still hallucinating with romantic ideas of the Ottoman Empire. The founding country of which, Turkey, have thrown all this into trash & have completely secularized and modernized, under the guidance of their great visionary, Attaruk, and are progressing leaps and bounds with their change to 'aggressive secularism' - of one law, uniform civil code and gender equality, strictly enforced by their military and judiciary as well. Islamic countries do not allow conversions as they are scared about giving equal rights, divorce, alimony, legal and economic rights to women. There is nothing there in Islam. It is a clever ploy to subjugate women and make noise when people question. All other religions follow uniform civil code in life. Hence, always be watchful when you deal with Muslims as they are very insecure.
RE:RE:@Wahaj Faridy
by Wahaj Faridy on Jul 24, 2008 08:37 PM Permalink
You thought you will kill 10 Million Muslims with help of gangs of Criminal Muslim war lords, and walk away laughing ???
Now whole world will know your TRUTH...and you can not change Tide of this world against you...It is just a Begining
You can give years to explain when these contries were Christian.
It seems you know nothing of History of Middle East.
When Mongoles Embraced islam and turned against Changez Khan, they established Caliphate in Turkey. Turkey is Mongole/Tatari people. They were never christian majority
All other countries have been Muslim and there is no history of any ARMY having converted them
Turkey, the most "tolerant and secular" Islamic nation which Muslims say is an example that Muslims can be democratic and secular: has only 1 percent population of non-Muslims, who live in constant fear, according to News reports.
Also, I found out (during recent Euro 2008), that an immigrant to Turkey can not become a citizen if he/she does not change his/her name to an Islamic one.
Ottomans (muslims) had not invaded West for full 175 years before WEST (UK, France, Russia) invaded muslims in 1912.
Ottomans (muslims) had a functioning Parliamentary and Party system, Elections etc before West attacked it in 1912 and replaced it with War Lords installed as Tyrants
Ottomans (muslims) had offered No War Pact to UK, France and russia multiple times before these countries chose to attack it. Each time Muslims offered No War Pact to them, these countries spurned it.
1912 campaign of Invading Muslim land was begining of new Chapter that has not yet been closed ...
begining 1912 invasion on Ottomons (muslims) by UK, France and Russia, following is the score card of two sides:
Over a Million Innocent Killings: ------------------------------------
Muslims: None
West: Middle East in 1912 to 1922: 5 Million Algeria: 2 Million Iraq: 1 Million Afghanistan: 2 Million Iran: 1 Million
Over a LAC Innocent Killings: ------------------------------------
RE:BRUTALIZATION OF MUSLIMS
by Anti Islamist on Jul 24, 2008 09:25 PM Permalink
I am sorry to inform you, that your knowledge of Ottoman is very wrong, as well as your figures are over-hyped, and beside that, India which was the biggest victim of ottoman empire and islamic hypocrisy, you are telling them ? ever heard of silk route latter and Armenian holocaust... i think both these topics in itself will crush your propaganda of ottoman holiness ....
anyways, war stopped between invading Muslims and European Christians on gates of Vienna, ironically on september-11 ... which many see as a symbolic start of historically halted war...
so coming back to your question, Ottoman never halted its invasion, but had turned it in Africa and eastern fronts..
so lets speak global.. if you are playing global cards..
>>Ottomans (muslims) had a functioning Parliamentary and Party system, Elections etc before West attacked it in 1912
ever heard of Milat system, which was followed by Ottoman. Ever considered how much right non-muslim earned in your "functioning Parliamentary Mullahcracy"? infact peoples were subjected at subhuman level, a discriminatory system under which you can follow your rules, if you pay jaziya... and 1 representative of non-muslim religious leader, and his clan was against that allowed to proceed with their customs...(but privately). ARmy service, horse - elephant driving was not allowed to non-muslims, and if a muslim pass by, they were forced to bow next to him...
unequal, discrimitory but you call it "fully functionary"..
RE:BRUTALIZATION OF MUSLIMS
by Vinu Bhardwaj on Jul 24, 2008 08:12 PM Permalink
This is history-Muslim style. Remember recent West attack on Muslims were after 9/11.
Anyway, Muslims did invade India in extremely violent manner (many times over) and have killed 85 million Hindus.And took India's land and creative exclusive Islamic nations-where Hindu civilians killed and driven out just for being non-Muslims.
RE:BRUTALIZATION OF MUSLIMS
by Vinu Bhardwaj on Jul 24, 2008 08:17 PM Permalink
You are ignoring my question: This is an Indian news paper. The fact is 85 million Hindus have been killed by Muslims-most recent in Jaipur, Mumbai... (all blown up).
Plus I already mentioned that Sudan's President, a Muslim, recently indicted, for genocide of dark-skinned Muslims.
RE:BRUTALIZATION OF MUSLIMS
by Steve Andrews on Jul 24, 2008 08:12 PM Permalink
What about millions killed in recent 1971 Bangladesh, Millions in Kashmir Millions in Pakistan Millions in India by Persian, Turk and Arabian Looters
RE:Terrorists Kill Innocent; Naxals Kill Bad Elements
by Vinu Bhardwaj on Jul 24, 2008 07:48 PM Permalink
It almost seems terrorists love death more than life. Some inspiration they get from their source.
RE:Terrorists Kill Innocent; Naxals Kill Bad Elements
by Wahaj Faridy on Jul 24, 2008 08:03 PM Permalink
I ask you, can you not See BRUTALIZATION of masses by these Very countries to the scale of hundreds of thousands before these people in these countries started hitting back as "insanes". Here is brief summary:
India: Read local History of RIOTS and Potavictions since 1986 (count 100,000 75,000 in Kashmir)
Russia: Read Wiping away of Chechens young generation (count 400,000), 2 Million in Afghanistan by USSR
US: 500,000 in Iraq thru sanctions Israel: 50,000 in Ethnic cleansing, Weekly bombardment of refugees
UK: 1912 to 1935 Invasions of Mid east killing 5 Million
RE:Terrorists Kill Innocent; Naxals Kill Bad Elements
by Vinu Bhardwaj on Jul 24, 2008 07:54 PM Permalink
We have a "moderate" Muslim here (Wahaj Faridy)who sees the daily massacres of civlians all over the world by his co-religionists and says there is nothing wrong and tries to justify it.
RE:Terrorists Kill Innocent; Naxals Kill Bad Elements
by Vinu Bhardwaj on Jul 24, 2008 08:01 PM Permalink
They have been brutalized into insanity by their own religion and co-religionists. Sudan's Arab (fair-skinned) Muslims have committed genocide against Black Muslims.
Anyway, it is Muslims who have created 56 intolerant nations where they openly discriminate against others. I would say it is the non-Muslims who should have been "brutalized into insanity" by actions of Muslims.
