RE:Mass killing of human beings is allowed in islam
by Dalit.Modi on Jul 24, 2008 02:15 PM Permalink
The genocide of 2002 has been described, and most convincingly, as state sponsored. It was not just that the state apparatus of Gujarat either looked away while the mobs rampaged, or else aided and guided the mobs, or even on occasion itself became part of the mob: what was crucial was that the federal Indian State, whose capital is Delhi, gave the state of Gujarat and its mobs the freedom and the time to loot, kill, rape and pillage. In power in Delhi at the time was a coalition led by the ideological kith and kin of those who were in absolute power in Gujarat. Not only did the elders of the Sangh Parivar fail to use the considerable powers vested in them by the Constitution of India, they brazenly lied in Parliament. The key functionary, the Home Minister - who by then was also the Deputy Prime Minister - said that Narendra Modi was "in control of the situation." The real meaning of this was not lost on many: what Advani meant was, "Our boys are in control and we will let them get on with the job." The media coverage which caused so much anguish across the land only made the hearts of Hindutva beasts swell with pride. The Opposition in Parliament could do nothing.
Mr. Kuldeep's dinner might have been served with poison. And as he complained of trouble, he might have been given a heavier dose of poison in the name of medicine. The chaos-mongerers in Jammu can do anything to gain ground since politics is all about interests, NOT emotions.
It is a pity that Hindu Talibans like Bal Thackerey who call for creation of suicide squads are never booked by the law. These communal leaders are mum when lakhs of farmers suicide in Vidharbha after falling in debt trap. These terrorists make pact with the Enron and the USA/Israel axis of terror doesn't mind his praises for Hitler.
These terrorist leaders actually bank on illiteracy and poverty because a well-educated person with financial stability will hardly join his suicide squad.
These terrorists who work for Enron call themselves Indian whereas even for a hernia operation Bal Thakkar goes to USA. They can only complicate the situation in Kashmir by suggesting mass Hindu intrusion there. Any sane person knows that's impossible, see what happened in Kosovo. And in India we can't take a single step without asking the big brothers at washington.
If we want Kashmir to be a part of India, we have to win trust of the people of Kashmir and make the situation conducive for trust. So that one day we can argue that their being a part of India is good for both them and us. Raping their women and killing innocents in Kashmir can't solve the problem.
RE:Mr. Kuldeep might have been killed by the party mongering for chaos in Jammu
by Ayan Nandy on Jul 24, 2008 02:36 PM Permalink
How did the Swedes win the trust of Aalands islands? Or the Italians win the trust of South Tirolese people?
If you see the history of mankind, you can never subdue people by force. Israel is the only exception, but they get tremendous military, moral and media support from the West - and still their situation is not that rosy, now they are being mowed down by rebel bulldozers!
Kashmir is a land-locked state and it needs the help of India to sell the safrons and wool. To welcome the tourists to the heaven on earth. And Kashmir is also strategically important for India, we can't afford to lose it.
But how can the Kashmiris be with us if our armymen keep on raping their women, killing their innocents? There has been so many cases of army officials killing innocents and calling them terrorists only to increase their count which might help them get a promotion. If this is not madness, then what is the definition of insanity?
No doubt the ISI sponsors the cross-border terrorism. But who's ISI? It grew as an organ of British Indian army and it is still funded by the British and the Americans. Be it Islamic terrorism or Naxalites, the West supports them. But the root problem is the way we treat this. If we look into the grievance of the people of Kashmir or of the tribals with whom Naxalites have a stronghold, then those people won't fall into the trap of the West sponsored terrorists.
We have to be patient and have faith in our capabilities.
RE:RE:Mr. Kuldeep might have been killed by the party mongering for chaos in Jammu
by Wahaj Faridy on Jul 24, 2008 02:32 PM Permalink
By not treating Muslims of India as Second Grade Citizens, and by not confronting Islam by hobnobbing with US and other such terrorist countries
RE:Art is banned in Islam
by Alam Wazir on Jul 24, 2008 02:29 PM Permalink
Muslims like you are the biggest curse to Islam. I wish there was a way to excommunicate people like you. In fact, you people are the biggest help to groups like Jews/Crusaders/VHP. They point to people like you and say all Muslims are like this. I would like to tell you to educate yourself, and help revive Islam into one of the greatest scientific religions in the world, like it was in medieval times. It is not coincidence that Persia, which practices Shia, of which I am a member, refused to follow the Sunni version of Islam. It is only Shia Islam which gave the world Islamic culture, art and science. You Sunnis are stuck in desert mentality and hurting the image of Islam. We are the true keepers of Islam. You betrayed us then, and today also you are betraying us.