RE:seriously are we short of temples?
by nai on Jul 24, 2008 09:54 PM Permalink
yes Keerikkadan, we can understand the sense of a person who calls a place of worship 'stupid'.
btw, I guess by saying 'we' ananth meant those who have faith in God. Why are you counting yourself in 'we' because from your statements it is very much clear that you are an atheist. request you not to disturb others.
RE:RE:seriously are we short of temples?
by Keerikkadan on Jul 24, 2008 10:02 PM Permalink
Yes i do think the my sense is better than Shiv sena RSS cadres.
RE:RE:RE:seriously are we short of temples?
by Keerikkadan on Jul 24, 2008 10:03 PM Permalink
What constructive change has RSS done. Even in temple case there has not been any "construction"
lol If u construct something, then the issue is dead , aint it.
RE:RE:seriously are we short of temples?
by nai on Jul 24, 2008 09:56 PM Permalink
Masood, such an appreciation of an atheist was not at all expected from a muslim who boast so much of having imaan-dharam etc. very coward comment by you.
RE:seriously are we short of temples?
by guru on Jul 24, 2008 09:43 PM Permalink
man went to moon and we are going the way arabs wanted us to go.. Afghanistan--> Waziristan-->Pakistan--> remaining India is it possible to to puja of any pic without something called Allah in Saudi
RE:RE:We should Demolish the Taj Mahal
by MP on Jul 24, 2008 09:47 PM Permalink
Since my earlier message has been reported.. i am typing this again
Taj Mahal is not Queen Mumtaz's tomb but an ancient Hindu temple palace of Lord Shiva (then known as Tejo Mahalaya )
Shiva temple palace was usurped by Shah Jahan from then Maharaja of Jaipur, Jai Singh. In his own court ch ronicle, Badshahnama, Shah Jahan admits that an exceptionally beautiful grand mansion in Agra was taken from Jai SIngh for Mumtaz's burial . The ex-Maharaja of Jaipur still retains in his secret collection two orders from Shah Jahan for surrendering the Taj building. Using captured temples and mansions, as a burial place for dead courtiers and royalty was a common practice among Muslim rulers.
For example, Humayun,Akbar, Etmud-ud-Daula and Safdarjung are all buried in such mansions. Oak's inquiries began with the name of Taj Mahal. He says the term " Mahal " has never been used for a building in any Muslim countries from Afghanisthan to Algeria .. "The unusual explanation that the term Taj Mahal derives from Mumtaz Mahal was illogical in atleast two respects. Firstly, her name was never Mumtaz Mahal but Mumtaz-ul-Zamani ," he writes. Secondly, one cannot omit the first three letters 'Mum' from a woman's name to derive the remainder as the name for the building."Taj Mahal, he claims, is a corrupt version of Tejo Mahalaya, or Lord Shiva's Palace .
Oak cites several documents suggesting the Taj Mahal predates Shah Jahan's era, and was a temple dedicated to Shiva, worshipped b
RE:RE:RE:We should Demolish the Taj Mahal
by tajender on Jul 24, 2008 10:01 PM Permalink
this is pure lie u have proof to subsentiate ur claim.sangh parivar is gang perverts homosexuals hawala dealers financial thieves gangesters&murderers &liars.they have nothing to offer to india or hindus. ALL 4 MATHS SHANKARACHARYAS WERE BUILT DURING MOGHUL TIMES MANY TEMPLE LIKE THAT OF CHITRKOOT WERE BUILT WITH MOGHUL FUNDS.LAND TO GOLDEN TEMPLE WAS DONATED BY MUSLIMS.AYODHYA BECAME VIBRANT CITY DURING NAWAB ERA.HANUMAN GADHI &OTHER FAMOUS PLACES WERE WITH HELP OF NAWABS APART FROM ITSINFRASTUCTURE.RSS(RUMOUR SPREADING SOCIETY)HAS HABIT OF LYING.in parliament they have shown their lust for money&power.i advise mr mp to read supreme judgement on this issue.22yrs construction history is available.
RE:RE:RE:RE:We should Demolish the Taj Mahal
by MP on Jul 24, 2008 10:03 PM Permalink
proof is in Dr PK Oak's book called Tajmahal : The True Story
You people wont believe an Indian but will believe what a westerner will say.. so please read on
EUROPEAN VISITOR'S ACCOUNTS
25. Tavernier, a French jeweller has recorded in his travel memoirs that Shahjahan purposely buried Mumtaz near the Taz-i-Makan (i.e.,`The Taj building') where foriegners used to come as they do even today so that the world may admire. He also adds that the cost of the scaffolding was more than that of the entire work. The work that Shahjahan commissioned in the Tejomahalaya Shiva temple was plundering at the costly fixtures inside it, uprooting the Shiva idols, planting the centotaphs in their place on two stories, inscribing the koran along the arches and walling up six of the seven stories of the Taj. It was this plunder, desecrating and plunderring of the rooms which took 22 years.
26. Peter Mundy, an English visitor to Agra recorded in 1632 (within only a year of Mumtaz's death) that `the places of note in and around Agra, included Taj-e-Mahal's tomb, gardens and bazaars'.He, therefore, confirms that that the Tajmahal had been a noteworthy building even before Shahjahan.
27. De Laet, a Dutch official has listed Mansingh's palace about a mile from Agra fort, as an outstanding building of pre shahjahan's time. Shahjahan's court chronicle, the Badshahnama records, Mumtaz's burial in the same Mansingh's palace.
28. Bernier, a contemporary French visitor has noted that non muslim's wer
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:We should Demolish the Taj Mahal
by tajender on Jul 24, 2008 10:14 PM Permalink
oak is memeber of sangh parivar his wrinting are not of any academic value.at the most it is propaganda material.more temple are destroyed during cult wars than by anybody else.prayag kashi mathura ayaodhya are all originally budhdhist not hindus.all their places of worship were destroyed by hindus.moghuls were builders not destroyers.
RE:RE:RE:RE:We should Demolish the Taj Mahal
by Vijay B on Jul 24, 2008 10:13 PM Permalink
"ALL 4 MATHS SHANKARACHARYAS WERE BUILT DURING MOGHUL TIMES"
EH?? are you NUTS? Who has taught you your history man? My God you are absolutely brainwashed!! Looks like you either have some grudge against some person leading you to hate Hindus and Hinduism, or have fallen for a Muslim girl and are looking to justify things. Dear, do marry and be happy with a Muslim girl, you don't have to feel guilty about it or say such lies. As for people, there are always good ones and bad ones. Don't show your anger on a molehill on the mountain. It won't help you.
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:We should Demolish the Taj Mahal
by tajender on Jul 24, 2008 10:19 PM Permalink
mr vijay go to internet check the dates u will find me right.moghul policy was to unite&win hindutva `brits&outsiders policy is divide conquer,rob&destroy.DURING MOGHUL ERA EXPORT WAS DOUBLE TO IMPORT LITERACY WAS 93%WHEN BRITS LEFT IT WAS 7%
RE:RE:RE:RE:We should Demolish the Taj Mahal
by Milind on Jul 24, 2008 10:17 PM Permalink
are you saying that had you been given a choice to build Taj Mahal, breaking the Shiva temple you would have accepted it? Mr keeikkadan
But why break the temple? a sane person can aquire a place nearby and build the Taj no harm in that, right?
At least now someone can say a word of an apology for the black deeds in past, and not flaunt it by cheering for it...
RE:We should Demolish the Taj Mahal
by MP on Jul 24, 2008 09:50 PM Permalink
cont...
Oak cites several documents suggesting the Taj Mahal predates Shah Jahan's era, and was a temple dedicated to Shiva, worshipped by Rajputs of Agra city. For example, Prof. Marvin Miller of New York took a few samples from the riverside doorway of the Taj. Carbon dating tests revealed that the door was 300 years older than Shah Jahan. European traveler Johan Albert Mandelslo,who visited Agra in 1638 (only seven years after Mumtaz's death), describes the life of the cit y in his memoirs. But he makes no reference to the Taj Mahal being built. The writings of Peter Mundy, an English visitor to Agra within a year of Mumtaz's death, also suggest the Taj was a noteworthy building well before Shah Jahan's time.
RE:RE:RE:We should Demolish the Taj Mahal
by ananth K on Jul 24, 2008 10:00 PM Permalink
If anything was built by destroying any worship place(actually anything) by force and built musque or xian chuch, it should be destoryed and will be destroyed.
I doubt any islamic ruler would have built symbol of love for one of his many wives.
RE:RE:RE:RE:We should Demolish the Taj Mahal
by Keerikkadan on Jul 24, 2008 10:06 PM Permalink
when we have people like u, ISI does not need help to make trouble in india
RE:We should Demolish the Taj Mahal
by Indoamerican on Jul 24, 2008 09:41 PM Permalink
only morons like u can talk like this. generalize everything in life. wasted lifes on earth.
RE:We should Demolish the Taj Mahal
by Soham Desai on Jul 24, 2008 09:39 PM Permalink
Rightly said. These guys have nothing constructive. They just want to create disturbance.
