The entire drama has been carried out in the most calculated manner possible, the Somnath Chatterjee episode being a slight digression from script. The CPIM had always plans to pull out when elections approach, and they had had this symbiotic relationship with Congress for over three decades now (rule at the centre and we make merry at the states -nee west bengal their hegemony). The Nuclear deal was just a non-issue being highlighted only now. Mr. Chatterjee having had finally got his worth at the national level (after all a Speaker enjoys privileges equivalent to a cabinet minister) was hardly going to give it up, and what's worse was in no mood to dispense with his crores (25 or more who know??) with Karat and Co. and hence the problem. The media just like always has discovered a new messiah and a martyr and are doing their utmost with all of the kitsch thrown in for an afternoon soap and beyond. Point of the matter is Mr Chatterjee has been one of the most ineffective and controversial speaker in recent memory having ben accused time and again of being partisan to the ruling coalition (read Congress) at the expense of propriety. The litmus test for an honorary post is being non-controversial and neutral (check with our ex president Mr Azad for tips) especially for a speaker as he is an elected member of a political party. However, the common verdict is that Mr Chatterjee has failed miserably at that.
This entire issue of expelling the Speaker hinges on the communist ideology, in which personal opinion has no place and opposition is not tolerated. We have to only look at the erstwhile USSR and China to understand how the opposition is destroyed even at a hint. Wherever it is, the ideology remains the same: no opportunity for personal decisions and any kind of opposition.
When we got independence, there was a fear in Western countries that India, being poor, might tilt towards Communism. After 1949, China has continuously tried by covert and overt means to bring Communism into India. It also held India and the Indian Prime Minister responsible for being unable to bring other feeble Asian and African countries into Communism, as India provided them leadership under Non-Aligned Nations. China, even today, cannot fully understand that Communism cannot rule India and hence, the effort through Maoism. We should be grateful to our leaders for firmly swaying India away from this terrible ideology and also for showing the way to other under-developed countries that democracy can suit them.
RE:Communism
by atul kumar on Jul 23, 2008 10:12 PM Permalink
want to ask rajdeep and ashutosh so called (camcorder weilding)moral gaurdians (blackmailers)of society why cd has not been sent to speaker. has he forget the 1 km route to parliament he was boasting on ibn yesterday. or has ibn put the cd on sale.
i want to ask rajdeep and ashutosh so called (camcorder weilding)moral gaurdians blackmailers) why cd has not been sent to speaker. has he forget the 1 km route to parliament he was boasting on ibn yesterday. or has ibn put the cd on sale.
mr chatterjee became the speaker based on the recomendation of CPI(M) which was supporting the UPA govt. When CPI(M) had withdrawn the support to the govt, mr chatterjee held on to the post of the speaker, indicating that the post was beyond the party... and now the party feels that it doesnt require him as a member any more...
One thing to be noted is tat CPI(M) had expelled him only after allowing him to discharge his duties as the speaker of the house... isnt it... wasnt that because the CPI(M) respected democracy???
I dont think there will be any Bengal lobby and Kerala lobby building up on this issue... cos there is no objections to this decision even from Bengal... CPI(M) is a party where no indvidual is above the party...
afterall if "once an MP is elected as a speaker he ceases to the member of any party.", then what is wrong in the party expelling mr chatterjee...
RE:whats wrong in expelling mr chatterjee???
by praful nikam on Jul 23, 2008 10:08 PM Permalink
"Somnath Chatterjee might have acted according to the Indian Constitution, but our party has its own constitution and decisions are taken as per party rules," Bose told reporters on the sidelines of a rally in Kolkata. This is not my wordings if u dont belive in indian parlimentry board then why u make that person speekar. Also plaese see PM's wording that left want PM to be work like a BONDED SLAVE for them, WHICH show left mentality
RE:RE:whats wrong in expelling mr chatterjee???
by praful nikam on Jul 23, 2008 10:11 PM Permalink
Please tell me what somanath done wrong, LEFT already know that once they make somanath a speaker he will become a constitutional member, till he is there he has moral and constitutional responsiblity(Means Indian constitution), he acted like that...........
RE:whats wrong in expelling mr chatterjee???
by hariss hariss on Jul 23, 2008 10:19 PM Permalink
you are right... but when he has become a constitutional entity, beyond party lines, then what is wrong in the party expelling mr chatterjee...
before the trust vote, the party might have send message to mr chatterjee to get back to the party at a time when it required him on its side... which he didnt want to...
so the party waited till the time he discharges his duties as speaker during the trust vote and the next day expelled him...
it is absolutely internal matter with CPI(M) and nothing wrong in that...
RE:RE:whats wrong in expelling mr chatterjee???
by patriotsunite on Jul 23, 2008 10:15 PM Permalink
There is nothing wrong in expelling Chatterjee from CPM. However, the Party cannot ask him to step down from his Speaker post as he is beyond the party now. A Party only recommends a candidate for Speaker post. After he is elected, the candidate is beyond the party.
Of course, to understand this would require Communists to put India (their country) ahead of their party.
RE:Constituion may permit him to continue - but doesnt he have moral responsibility
by SkShazid on Jul 23, 2008 10:07 PM Permalink
he has put that moral in toilet bowl n flushed it.
RE:Constituion may permit him to continue - but doesnt he have moral responsibility
by Sathish on Jul 23, 2008 10:09 PM Permalink
Hey,
I don't think u read the article or didn't understand. You guys don't respect the constitution, for communist the party and other communist country is more important and above the nation. He acted according to the Indian constitution. Try to respect him.
RE:Constituion may permit him to continue - but doesnt he have moral responsibility
by SkShazid on Jul 23, 2008 10:12 PM Permalink
Two wrongs does not makes things correct. Somnath was wrong and now this comic comrade saying party great than country is also wrong. Respect is spontaneous and earned can't be forced or bought.
RE:Constituion may permit him to continue - but doesnt he have moral responsibility
by hariss hariss on Jul 23, 2008 10:29 PM Permalink
sat.. did CPI(M) expel him before the trust vote? did CPI(M) ask him to quit as speaker?
"Chatterjee had voiced his displeasure over the CPI-M voting against the United Progressive Alliance alongside the Bharatiya Janata Party." (as in another report in rediff.com itself) why do you thhink a Constitutional entity, like the speaker, who is beyond the pary, VOICE HIS DISPLEASURE AT CPI(M)?????
RE:Constituion may permit him to continue - but doesnt he have moral responsibility
by Stalin Selvamoni on Jul 23, 2008 10:16 PM Permalink
you are neigher congress nor communist person. but a bjp person. you mind your own business
People think once you support nuclear deal whatever UPA does and UPAs supporters do is right and whatever others do is wrong. In that mentality, right now UPA (including Speaker) can do nothing wrong.
RE:Bad approach
by praful nikam on Jul 23, 2008 10:01 PM Permalink
"Somnath Chatterjee might have acted according to the Indian Constitution, but our party has its own constitution and decisions are taken as per party rules," Bose told reporters on the sidelines of a rally in Kolkata. This is not my wordings; its left wording if they dont belive in indian parlimentry board then why they make that person speekar. Also plaese see PM's wording that "left want PM to be work like a BONDED SLAVE for them", WHICH show left mentality
RE:Bad approach
by Stalin Selvamoni on Jul 23, 2008 10:18 PM Permalink
your party is meant for some 100 yrs old living. let them apply the rules in china
He got the post because of CPM.He elected as a MP because he is CPM gave seat to him. So idealy he should resign from MP post as well. If he is not able to support the ideology of mr Karat & CPM.He can contest on the next time and prove peoples supports his ideology. One thing CPM lost all the credibility by supporting Mayavathi,once CPM said she is the most currupted lady. Now CPM also showing cheap political play.
RE:Somanath should resign from the Post
by abcd efg on Jul 23, 2008 10:01 PM Permalink
It seems there is a misunderstanding about representation in democracy. Any Constitutional post is above party affiliations. Even the MP or MLA is answerable to its constituency and people and not to the party.
RE:Somanath should resign from the Post
by mahabodhi on Jul 23, 2008 10:11 PM Permalink
@indiavision the only thing the Left ever did right was promoting the Mayawati as PM if this is their true vision then poors can expect Proletrian Rule in India at the earliest ! RSSBJP r the most corrupt persons in India they looted India for thpousand of years and even after 60 years of Congress rule were dominating the Congress and once they were well established in their secure world -or as they thought -they started showing their true colurs and let loose their hidden agenda of expliting the poors and preaching communal Bunch of Thoughts as their new Manifesto !
RE:Somanath should resign from the Post
by Sathish on Jul 23, 2008 10:32 PM Permalink
Hi Indiavision,
Great man, what a vision you have. If a paki give some to you, I think you will act with paki support the activities. As per your vision, moral is more important than country.
Rajdeep had promised on CNN IBN that he was on his way last evening to hand over the cash sting tapes to the Speaker. Now we learn that he has still not reached Parliament. Is he waiting for clearence from 10 Janpath.
RE:Where is the crook Rajdeep Sardesai ?
by SkShazid on Jul 23, 2008 10:14 PM Permalink
rickshaw wala gone to buy nuclear cracker to celebrate UPA winning
cpm expelled him. he may beeven disqualified from veing mp, since he violated party. if he is under disqualification, he cannot continue as speaker. congress will use and misuse any body and so somnath
Who are those Carats? I think they are the agent of China. They don't have any right to do so. Somnath Chatterjee after all an elected member from West Bengal, can Carat's circus party endeavour to contest any assembly election from any constituency? Yeatury, Prakash Karat or Brinda all are drone. Mr. Somnath Chatterjee has support from the gramss root from the common people.
RE:Expultion of Somnath Chatterjee
by KALA BHAINS on Jul 24, 2008 12:31 AM Permalink
Debasish, till yesterday you and your DIDI were after his head. Now he has become your near and dear one. Which grassroot (Trinamool) people you are talking about? Was he ever a grass-root leader? Your DIDI has several times used derogatory words for his background. Think before you say something.
