For what BJP did in Karnataka, no one questions. Even media is silent on this. Advaniji, better accept that what has happened yesterday was a 'tit-for-tat'.
RE:TIT FOR TAT
by lakshmanan murthy on Jul 23, 2008 03:40 PM Permalink
Ple do not compare Karnataka with yesterday's episode. In karnataka, after winning the trust vote, the BJP made the MLAs to resign and joined their party. But, yesterday money was paid to cross vote or to abstain.
RE:george bush
by p k on Jul 23, 2008 03:49 PM Permalink
Why do you have so much inferiority complex. We are a powerful country with a population of billion people. Without signing NPT, people are offering us this deal. This speaks about our status. America wants to be with India because it recognises our rising power.
RE:george bush
by Shiv Thakur on Jul 23, 2008 04:27 PM Permalink
Dear Sir I have read something about this deal. I have aojection on some contents of deal. 1. IAEA have same agreement with china without hide act. why they puting hide act on us. 2. How we will segregate civil necular & military necular. 3.why America want give us fourtenn old atomic reactors. 4. In IAEA agreent it not clear that every of NSG will suplly unreniam and technology. 5. we will lose right of another blast if do this this agreeemnt will scrap. 6. Why not we shoud develop our technology to use thorium for necular deal. 7.NSG member will splly ureliam only capicity of 20%erichment .
RE:george bush
by Joseph George on Jul 23, 2008 06:19 PM Permalink
1. Hyde act is not a consideration for IAEA and consequently not for us. Hyde Act is unique to dealings with USA and they are not supplying China with uranium. They cannot even interfere if Canada and Australia chooses to sell, to anybody fulfilling IAEA criteria. 5. We don't lose right of another blast. We don't need another one. Knowledge Management is so highly advanced that even if we went full scale ahead, after 5 years we could make do with a simulation.
Everything is alright now - BUT WE ALL HAVE TO BE ALERT and transparency need be absolute unlike the lies by PRANAB MUKHERJEE that MMS was silent on.
I hope that senile boor ensures his skeletons (Modi) are in the cupboard and does not carry on as he is now from the ICU so as to win sufficient seats to be in a position to question such in the parliament when it comes up to the US Congress to review the IAEA sanctions.
Why no Yashwant or even thier confused Sangh spokesperson.
BJP could have risen above pettiness should they have opted out like Somnath
RE:george bush
by Rahul on Jul 23, 2008 03:42 PM Permalink
Why should Bush worry about Indian Common man.. Even our politicians are not worrying about our own commonman.
We should understand one thing first.. India is not a country for common man .. we are one of the richest nation with rich people only...
It is good in a way that MMS can continue for some more months.
If the BJP had fully voted against UPA (resulting in MMS losing it), Mayawati would have hijacked LK Advani's chance in the coming election.
BJP should take pride in the fact that they were the original initiators of this deal and aligning with USA. They can always re-negotiate or scrap if they find USA interfering in the sovereign affairs of India.
Imagine a combination of Mayawati, Ajit Singh, Devegowda, Karat, Bardhan, Naidu, Chandrasekhar rao, ruling us! Thank God it did not happen. Thank those NDA & TDP MPs who voted for UPA for this!
If BJP is sensible in its strategy, it should let these MPs continue with a rebuke. If they expel them, the BJP could lose the support and sympathy of the urban voters who were not against the deal.
RE:BJP should actually thank its MPs who abstained or cross voted...
by praveen on Jul 23, 2008 03:51 PM Permalink
if you go by the 123 agreement you will find that india cannot backtrack from the deal but america has the right to inspect nuclear installations under the agreement even if USA forgo the agreement once the deal is done. so these bludy MP's will make india a beggar in the hands of USA once the deal is done and we will have to take clearance from the US even for using indigeneous nuclear resources
RE:BJP should actually thank its MPs who abstained or cross voted...
by Joseph George on Jul 23, 2008 06:21 PM Permalink
This would have worked had they abstained in force not indulged in infantile juvenillism as they did yesterday.
RE:BJP should actually thank its MPs who abstained or cross voted...
by shaker on Jul 23, 2008 03:45 PM Permalink
Man thats what we call sensible post. Great and that is what BJP has to do. Just admonish and leave the matter. I am sure for all that we know it could have been their ploy which worked. I cannot imagine living under that notorious lady Mayavati. Boys I believe she should get what she deserves as a lady there is some thing lacking and hence if she is probed well things might or rather the heat will settle down. Please send some studs.
RE:BJP should actually thank its MPs who abstained or cross voted...
by Sangi on Jul 23, 2008 03:43 PM Permalink
All BJP's drama, Advani was dreamign to become PM, when he realise that Maya is one front door, he himself might have asked his MP's to cross vote. Everuthing is possible in politics.
Guys n Gurls,is this the India our Great leaders had fought for from the British????Just look around,the most secular party was involved in horsetrading n one of the narrow minded parties was hand in glove for electing maya the pm.. Brothers n Sisters it's time we unite and gear ourselves for 2nd Freedom movement.Freedom from these leaders,freedom from corruption... ARE YOU WITH ME?????????????????????????
I am sure these guys who cross-voted and obstained received money. Only thing is that the transaction was done very celverly right under the intruding noses of the TV channels. No one had any clue. Dammed good deal. Wah Bhai Wah
For powers BJP can go to any extent. Why BJP wants to hit and kill the MP who did not vote or cross vote. Is'nt India the biggest democracy on the face of this earth ???
RE:What a mockery by BJP
by Rahul on Jul 23, 2008 03:46 PM Permalink
Why BJP only? Any party can go to any extent ? Be impartial to all.. The Congress was in upper hand becuase they are in power and can offer more than others. SP can offer more becuase big business groups are there with them.. BJP and BSP had money but no position to offer ..
No one is saint in politics.. All tried their best , those who had offered more got more... that's all
RE:What a mockery by BJP
by venkat on Jul 23, 2008 03:26 PM Permalink
Who told this story? Sangliana?? as if he is loyal to the symbol on which people voted for him
RE:What a mockery by BJP
by Another Indian on Jul 23, 2008 03:32 PM Permalink
How can you expect trolls like sangaliana to be faithful to BJP. They won't even be faithful to their Motherland.
RE:BJP TO EXPEL MP'S
by BaBu Raj on Jul 23, 2008 03:32 PM Permalink
Ms.Umabharti was pure jansanghi,,, we all know
her dram to retain her chif minister ship.....
Mr.Madanlal Khurana : is jansanghi.... we all know his craziness for power.
Mr.Keshubhai patel : is RSS/Jansanghi : we all knows his fight agains Modi and Bjp
Mr.Shankar Sing Waghela: who is one of the hard working Karyker of RSS.... we all know "khajrao kand"
Mr.Modi is pure rss/Jansanghi : we all knows for retaining power he is not allowing VHP/RSS activist to grow and we all know his relation with Togadia...
So it does not means Congi culture spoil BJP. but The politic cultur it self is curupt in India.
RE:BJP TO EXPEL MP'S
by venkat on Jul 23, 2008 03:25 PM Permalink
You are right. BJP in karnataka started talking other parties people in. Since they are already switching, it is really difficult to believe them.
Sangaliana says he voted according to his conscience. But the thing is he contested elections on a party symbol and must obey the whip of that party. Else he could have resigned if his inner sense prevented him. He misused his position and voted for the Govt.
One BJP senior leader rightly asked this to be a lesson for BJP and not to admit jumping people to the party and those who do not have respect for ideology whatever may be.
BJP should wake up to be a cadre based disciplined party again
RE:RE:BJP TO EXPEL MP'S
by Demo-crazy on Jul 23, 2008 03:44 PM Permalink
Every party has practiced defection and corruption in one form or the other. BJP is no saint.
Congress has a Ph.D. in this field, while BJP is just graduating!
Remember, at times, for the larger good, one needs to accept some little evil, or unjust, or indisciplined acts.
If the war was fair, Karna & Duryodhana would not have died that easily at the hands of Arjuna and Bhima. Because they adopted foul methods to kill Abhimanyu, the Pandavas too had to adopt certain tactics. Lord Krishna himself advised it is OK to adopt such means to get rid of bigger evil.
This act of BJP MPs got rid of communist's back seat driving. Split the UPA, UNPA, and Communists hold. So, be thankful to them.
The clean image of Mr. Manmohan Singh has been totally damaged, that too even before the trust vote was over.
It was proved that he can go down to even the lowest level to make Mr. George Bush happy.
He can free the murder convicts from jail to garner votes for UPA, and all this for a nuclear deal which no one has a clear idea about, except the top brass.
We just hope that they don't sell the country in the name of a deal.
RE:clean image ?
by ANKIT SRIVASTAVA on Jul 23, 2008 03:45 PM Permalink
At least he is doing it for some cause of getting a good treaty for the country even at the cost of his own Image. Not like the disgusting stinkinmg BJP which only knows nothing but theatrics in all issues. These nautanki's from BJP should be taught a lesson!
RE:clean image ?
by Shiv Thakur on Jul 23, 2008 04:02 PM Permalink
Dear Ankit You told in one line that traty is in favour of india, it seems that you are a necular scientist, in fact BJP started this deal and also BJP is the supporter of deal, but bjp ONLY WAnt some cchange in this deal specially in hide act. and I assure you that BJP(NDA) will come in power in next election will seek some amendment in this agreemnet
RE:RE:clean image ?
by Shiv Thakur on Jul 23, 2008 04:04 PM Permalink
Do you know about congressi kehl of Aaya Ram & gaya Ram in haryan and MP bribery case of 1991,there is long list of congressi horse trading.actually it is congressi party who polluted the poltics of India
RE:clean image ?
by thebedazzled on Jul 23, 2008 03:48 PM Permalink
it's unfortunate that for everything that went to congress as a defeat, Sonia was blamed. It was said she is managing the show from behind. Today MMS has slapped everyone in their cheeks and ba11s. So, this credit is not being given to Sonia. why? Why suddenly people are quite abt Sonia? U know why? Becoz they dont want to admit that they lost to Sonia...They are ashamed. MMS has managed to sail thru the whole episode with flying colors. Even my villager dad knows that BJP is crying foul after thumping defeat at the hand of mayawati and UNPA. BJP saved itself by letting govt survive. So they did not do any favor to MMS. It was their need.
RE:clean image ?
by raj kamal agarwal on Jul 23, 2008 03:59 PM Permalink
Very well said and Mrs.Sonia Gandhi also called Amar Dalal to help congress party because Mulayam singh also need shelter to hide for his crimes during his rule in UP. These politicians dont have any respect in the public because they are only power and money hungry and that too to spoil their childrens.I think there is a need for a new political party which must make members who are educated and dedicated to India.
The money was indeed given by Amar Singh. About a day or two, he was telling that 2 MPs
from Madhya pradesh would abstain confidently. He was tellin this only after he
got 'false' green signal from those MPs
After the vote, when everyone was happy, we could see Amar singh arguing and looking
visibly shaken. I think he must be worried about the contents of the CD.
CD was given to CNN iBN and because of their pro Congress leanings they refused to telecast it and gave it to speaker. If somnath fails to do anything,BJP will surely release copied to other news and press.
