RE:Proud to be an India
by Sachidanand Shetty on Jul 22, 2008 02:24 PM Permalink
At present, power from existing nuclear reactors costs, after huge subsidies, between Rs 2.70 and Rs 2.80 per kWh. The coal-fired Sasan mega power project in Madhya Pradesh will be supplying power at Rs 1.196 per unit. The real cost of power from existing nuclear reactors is around Rs 4 per unit; the cost of power produced by new reactors will be around Rs 5.50 per unit.
U.S. itself has not set up any nuclear plant in the last 35 years. Its focus is solar, wind, etc. India is among the best regions in the world to harness solar and wind kind of sources and by 2020 it certainly will be commercially viable. India's electricity generation does not depend on the $140 oil you are quoting, our electricity is coal based. We only import oil for petroleum products.
In 2032 our power requirement is 8 lac megawatt and thru this deal we only get 30 to 40 thousands MW, then why so much hurry?
I am happy that Singh has been so confident. We need you as the Prime Minister of India for the next 10 years so that you can be what mahatir mohammed was to Malaysia.
At last a politician who knows whats good for India and makes sure he uses his cleverness to achieve that rather just to make money.
Poor Advani ..... I hope his wishes to become the prime minister will take a sure shot hit again. Cheap politician ... one day he opposes and another day he just wants to be the prime minister and so goes all out to topple the government. Shit clarity of mind.
RE:Hip Hip Hooray India
by ajith kumar on Jul 22, 2008 02:26 PM Permalink
This Mullas want a PM who sheds crocodile tears on Muslims. Can you tell me at least one good thing this PM has done for Muslims in the country?
This kind of brainless mullas want a PM who announces publically that due to a terrorist suspect, he lost his sleep. At the same time an Army jawan who died fighting against terrorist does not make any impact on PM.
More over What about inflation..? What about price rise..? What about terrorism..? What about unemployment..?
Don't shield Manmohan or Sonia by calling them Baacha. The nuke deal is way to escape bigger problem like Inflation!!!
Inflation or No inflation. THEse parties HAVE LOT OF MONEY TO BRIBE THEIR WAY. THEY WILL USE IT AS MUCH THEY CAN. SONIA AND EVEN FORIEGN COUNTRIES KNOW OF IT
People of India have very shallow memory and cannot change the system, the will bribe OR come back with some other stories. THERE IS NO WAY YOU CAN REMOVE THE WRONG, THE PARLIAMENTARY SYSTEM DOES NOT ALLOW IT. THESE GUYS HAVE CORRUPT PARTIES IN their CONTROL BY TICKET DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM SO EVEN PARTIES HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO HAVE the WRONG CONTROL THEM OTHERWISE THEY WILL BE REMOVED. welcome to wicked world where you were children saying "MERA BHARAT MAHAN", IT IS NOT YOUR COUNTRY ANYMORE, IT IS OWNED BY 'WITE COLLAR" THUGS AND CRIMINALS IMPERSONATING AS GOOD.
RE:RE:Congress wont get more than 60 MPs in next election
by Sachidanand Shetty on Jul 22, 2008 02:22 PM Permalink
At present, power from existing nuclear reactors costs, after huge subsidies, between Rs 2.70 and Rs 2.80 per kWh. The coal-fired Sasan mega power project in Madhya Pradesh will be supplying power at Rs 1.196 per unit. The real cost of power from existing nuclear reactors is around Rs 4 per unit; the cost of power produced by new reactors will be around Rs 5.50 per unit.
U.S. itself has not set up any nuclear plant in the last 35 years. Its focus is solar, wind, etc. India is among the best regions in the world to harness solar and wind kind of sources and by 2020 it certainly will be commercially viable. India's electricity generation does not depend on the $140 oil you are quoting, our electricity is coal based. We only import oil for petroleum products.
In 2032 our power requirement is 8 lac megawatt and thru this deal we only get 30 to 40 thousands MW, then why so much hurry?
RE:RE:Congress wont get more than 60 MPs in next election
by rahul arora on Jul 22, 2008 01:57 PM Permalink
my dear friend agreed that the inflation is high.one of the reasons is that our buying power has increased and hence the demand is not being met. it will take a while before demand and supply reach a managable ratio. i am no financial pundit but i am sure the inflation will come down by December this year.
RE:RE:Congress wont get more than 60 MPs in next election
by Sandeep on Jul 22, 2008 01:59 PM Permalink
It is easy to talk but how can MMS/Chidambram control inflation if the oil price has increased so much. They have no say in what oil prices are set internationally. Oil then drives everything else. Rupee has to become stronger to drive prices of other things down which can not happen unless export/import balance improves. With oil being major import, can't do much there other than try other sources of energy production but almost everything has some opposition in India.
RE:RE:Congress wont get more than 60 MPs in next election
by muthuvel pillay on Jul 22, 2008 02:29 PM Permalink
yes we should oppose the constitution and the right to oppose that it gives :)
RE:RE:Congress wont get more than 60 MPs in next election
by rahul arora on Jul 22, 2008 02:00 PM Permalink
whatever nos they land up with in the next elections the congress and the PM had the guts to move ahead with there agenda even by risking there government which is not the case in today's world. every politician wants to hang on to power but Mr. Manmohan singh is not one of them
RE:RE:Congress wont get more than 60 MPs in next election
by D S on Jul 22, 2008 02:05 PM Permalink
You cannot link many things to OIL and what happens to poor on street. PM waited to almost next election time to raise the Nuclear bogey, he tried year ago and then backed out. that shows about the guts.
RE:Why now?
by Sachidanand Shetty on Jul 22, 2008 02:23 PM Permalink
At present, power from existing nuclear reactors costs, after huge subsidies, between Rs 2.70 and Rs 2.80 per kWh. The coal-fired Sasan mega power project in Madhya Pradesh will be supplying power at Rs 1.196 per unit. The real cost of power from existing nuclear reactors is around Rs 4 per unit; the cost of power produced by new reactors will be around Rs 5.50 per unit.
U.S. itself has not set up any nuclear plant in the last 35 years. Its focus is solar, wind, etc. India is among the best regions in the world to harness solar and wind kind of sources and by 2020 it certainly will be commercially viable. India's electricity generation does not depend on the $140 oil you are quoting, our electricity is coal based. We only import oil for petroleum products.
In 2032 our power requirement is 8 lac megawatt and thru this deal we only get 30 to 40 thousands MW, then why so much hurry?
One thing is evident from the present situation in Indian politics in perticular and Indian mass in general how the Western and American are powerfull to sell their product to India and oother developing countries.They create a shortage and put some condition for their product and chage exorbitant rate.Firstly they made a union of Nucrearfuel suppliers.Then they negociate to the potential buyer.Since they can not sell it to Arab country or Pakistan.Therefore India is more safe country to sell their product and make money.The American are pure business minded people.right now their aim is to recover from the current financial crunch.As far as the contract is concern whenever India want they can come out it is not like that any one can slave a country like India.but for political reason the policical BOSSES of different political group are try to teach the majority of illetrate voter for their benifit so they can assure them selve for next 5 years.The leftist are in bad position in Kerala and West Bengal this issue may give a new life to their political ambition.Same is with other regional political groups.
RE:This is useless hue and cry
by Sandeep on Jul 22, 2008 02:13 PM Permalink
Well, no compulsion to buy anything from US. You can buy from anyone in NSG group which includes France, Russia, Canada, even china and list goes on. US is not on a charity business here and why should India expect so? they have a product which they can sell. Upto India to decide if it suits the budget or not.
why dont people let government let work ? and where is the world there is no problems . and what we as citizens doing for country we re seeing growth for so many years . shame to nda and left ( i thought they been paid by china ) putting india in dis grace . i am not sayoing problems are not there but its our own country and we have to find solutions .can any one survive a single day with out power .
I think this whole debate and gimmics were completely avoidable, had PM Manmohan singh and congress party had taken the opposition into confidence. BJP started these strategic alliance with US, which has led to this nuclear deal (which is a good deal in my view), but PMO and congress did not consult the opposition at all. When all the problems started with the left, congress just took the view of Brajesh Mishra, who is a very knowledgable person and President Kalam which was regarded as the view of Indian masses. Actually congress wanted to take all the credits for the Indo-US nuclear deal and did not want to give any credit to the opposition, which is a very bad idea, for all the purposes where national security and sovereignity is concerned. PM and Sonia G was not in talking terms with Advani for the last four years, uptil the interview of Advani with Shekhar Gupta in NDTV, after which PM and Sonia called him. I will not say the nuclear deal is of bad intention, but it is merely bad politics and utter arrogance. Vajpayee, Advani, Arun Chourie, Arun Jaitley, Jaswant Singh, Brajesh Mishra, these are all experienced persons. If Narasimha Rao could send Atalji as the head of the Indian mission to UN to talk about Kashmir, then why the opposition could not be taken into confidence in this matter ?
RE:Politics showing its worst face
by Chintu on Jul 22, 2008 01:47 PM Permalink
Your comments are a diarrehea of words and constipation of ideas...........Who told you that (1) congress wanted to take all the credits for the Indo-US nuclear deal and did not want to give any credit to the opposition (2) PM and Sonia G was not in talking terms with Advani for the last four years, uptil the interview of Advani with Shekhar Gupta in NDTV. If the nuclear deal was so good, then why does the opposition not say so ???? The nuclear deal is only an opportunity for cunning and scheming politicians like Advani to try another hand at becoming te PM of India.
RE:Politics showing its worst face
by isha sood on Jul 22, 2008 01:56 PM Permalink
there is no person as cunning as selfish as sonia ghandhi and manamohan. if they would have been fair - rather than offering money to criminal politicians, they would hve dissolved the present govt. and opted for a fair people election. Just to take the credit for n-deal, worst of all politicians are given tickets again
RE:Politics showing its worst face
by Sandeep on Jul 22, 2008 02:08 PM Permalink
MMS has proved once again that he is not like a typical Indian politician who will just talk and at the end of it, end up doing nothing. MMS does get impatient after a while and wants to finish something if he believes in it which is a great quality to have if you want to move ahead. India is lucky to have a PM like this. This N.deal itself will change the power scenario in the country in 10 years or so. He has banked his future on this deal. Clearly it will benefit India. None of the technical reasons promoted are convincing enough and the main ideological reason that US will take over Nuclear plants in India is incorrect as only the plants India wants, will be placed in IAEA safeguard. India does not even have to buy anything from US, could buy from any country in NSG. I am not concerned about if BJP comes to power as they will agree to the same deal with maybe small changes. Real threat is if third front comes to power as they can sink India. We have to watch out for that and hope that does not happen. Who do you think is model politician nowadays?
The lowest ever in India ever for congress. Even now it is basicaklly confined to South India - 40% of it's MPs are from south right now. and I can clearly see the anger againt congress and allies in TN, AP and Kerala . In Karnataka the anger was already seen last month. Congress is doomed.
RE:Congress wont get more than 60 MPs in next election
by D S on Jul 22, 2008 01:42 PM Permalink
people have very shallow memory, the will bribe and come back with some other stories. THERE IS NO WAY YOU CAN REMOVE THE WRONG, THE PARLIAMENTARY SYSTEM DOES NOT ALLOW IT. AND THESE GUYS HAVE CORRUPT PARTIES IN CONTROL BY TICKET DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM SO EVEN PARTIES HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO HAVE WRONG CONTROL THEM OTHERWISE THEY WILL BE REMOVED. welcome to wicked word where you were children saying "MERA BHARAT MAHAN", IT IS NOT YOUR COUNTRY ANYMORE, IT IS OWNED BY 'WITE COLLAR" THUGS AND CRIMINALS IMPERSONATING AS GOOD.
RE:Congress wont get more than 60 MPs in next election
by Sandeep on Jul 22, 2008 02:09 PM Permalink
Everything is very frustrating, isn't it? You need a break budy...
RE:Congress wont get more than 60 MPs in next election
by D S on Jul 22, 2008 01:38 PM Permalink
BUT THEY HAVE LOT OF MONEY TO BRIBE THEIR WAY. THEY WILL USE IT AS MUCH THEY CAN. SONIA AND EVEN FORIEGN COUNTRIES KNOW OF IT
RE:RE:Congress wont get more than 60 MPs in next election
by Aasheesh Pandey on Jul 22, 2008 01:51 PM Permalink
Are you sure about other political parties? are they neat & clean? what's your opinion aboutBJP/ communist & others?
