Do MMS and Sonia want to win the trust vote? I think answer is NO.
The economy is tanking-his strongest suit is exposed. He has no other card to play. It is going to get even worse from here ( MMS has been pumping up the stock market for a few days- last opportunity for the investors to sell). 2009 is going to be worse than 2008. Printing rupees left, right and center and supporting dollar by selling rupees has created a big hole in Indian economy-effects of which would be felt for many years to come.
MMS wants to go out as a 'martyr'. He can then wash his hands and say that economy was OK when he was around.
So all in all Sonia and MMS would like to lose the trust vote. We would know tomorrow.
RE:Million rupee question- do MMS and Sonia want to win the trust vote
by rajesh mudgal on Jul 20, 2008 11:02 PM Permalink
just shut up and fade away Kris. u have nothing to say.
RE:Million rupee question- do MMS and Sonia want to win the trust vote
by Kris on Jul 20, 2008 11:10 PM Permalink
actually I did say something where as you?
ITS BETTER FOR CONGRESS TO LOSE THE NO CONFIDENCE MOTION THIS TIME OVER THIS ONE SIDED DEAL WITH USA .OTHERWISE ,IF CONGRESS DOES MANAGE TO SCRAP THROUGH ..THEY WILL GO THROUGH HELL FOR 1 MORE YEAR BEFORE THE GENERAL ELECTIONS...BECAUSE THE SMALL PARTIES AND INDEPENDENTS THAT SUPPORT THEM WILL CREATE HELL FOR CONGRESS FOR MINISTERY POSITIONS OR LARGE SUMS OF MONEY... THEY ALL WILL PLUCK CONGRESS LIKE A PACK OF DOGS AND IN THE END CONGRESS WILL BE IN SUCH A STATE THAT THEY MIGHT MANAGE TO LIMP TO ONLY 50 SEATS WHEN THEY GENERAL ELECTIONS IN A YEARS TIME...
RE:tiger200002
by TIGER MAN on Jul 20, 2008 10:51 PM Permalink
Lotan Potan...Dont worry...Even if the deal is sneaked to the usa parliment...The very next goverernment..in the maximium 1year......Which is 100% not going to be Congress...will throw the deal in the dustbin...
ITS BETTER FOR CONGRESS TO LOSE THE NO CONFIDENCE MOTION THIS TIME OVER THIS ONE SIDED DEAL WITH USA .OTHERWISE ,IF CONGRESS DOES MANAGE TO SCRAP THROUGH ..THEY WILL GO THROUGH HELL FOR 1 MORE YEAR BEFORE THE GENERAL ELECTIONS...BECAUSE THE SMALL PARTIES AND INDEPENDENTS THAT SUPPORT THEM WILL CREATE HELL FOR CONGRESS FOR MINISTERY POSITIONS OR LARGE SUMS OF MONEY... THEY ALL WILL PLUCK CONGRESS LIKE A PACK OF DOGS AND IN THE END CONGRESS WILL BE IN SUCH A STATE THAT THEY MIGHT MANAGE TO LIMP TO ONLY 50 SEATS WHEN THEY GENERAL ELECTIONS IN A YEARS TIME...
All the defections including that of Shahid Siddiqui shows it is not UPA but UNPA and NDA that are indulging in the
defection game. But Shahid Siddiqui's defection has made the game clearer:
a. The Left's game-plan is to foster Mayawati on the nation b. As the UNPA gains momentum, BJP's prospect of victory shrinks. What follows maybe is mass desertion by regional
parties, particularly of NDA towards UNPA c. The deal is being opposed as anti-Muslim
Within these re-alignments taking place, the BJP and NDA strategically are covertly encouraging abstentions. A UPA win will
burst the UNPA bubble as the reward for all Mayawati's poaching of MPs will be that she will be tried for corruption.
parliamentary democracy Sudheendra KulkarniPosted online: Sunday, July 20, 2008 at 0212 hrs Print Email Related Stories From ‘Lal Salaam’ to ‘Dalal Salaam’ A poser to President Pratibha Patil Best time to de-communalise politics Applying "posterity test" to Vajpayee and Singh When Sonia scuttled a PM-CM conclave at Infosys
When the Prime Minister of India commits himself to something publicly, the nation expects him to abide by it. Let us therefore see how Dr Manmohan Singh has fared on the principle of ‘prime ministerial accountability’.
Speaking about the Indo-US nuclear deal in the Lok Sabha on July 29, 2005, the PM had said: “We shall undertake the same responsibilities and obligations as the United States. We expect the same rights and benefits as the US...India will never accept discrimination.” This assurance stands flouted in the draft safeguards agreement between India and the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA). The draft does not recognise India as a Nuclear Weapons State on par with, and having the same rights and obligations as, the USA, Russia, Britain, France and China. In other words, India, with its strategic autonomy compromised, would have an inferior status in the global nuclear order in perpetuity.
RE:please read this
by indianpatriot on Jul 20, 2008 10:25 PM Permalink
Here is another broken assurance. On July 20, 2005, two days after he and American President George Bush issued a joint statement on the nuclear deal, Dr Singh addressed a press conference in Washington. “Mr Prime Minister,” a reporter asked, “will you seek a parliamentary consensus or approval to the new direction you seem to be taking in foreign policy?” The PM replied, as a prime minister should. “Well, the Parliament in our country is sovereign,” he said. “It goes without saying that we can move forward only on the basis of a broad national consensus.”
RE:RE:please read this
by indianpatriot on Jul 20, 2008 10:26 PM Permalink
Today, can any sane person claim that there is “a broad national consensus” in the country justifying the PM’s decision to go ahead with the deal? The resistance from his erstwhile Left allies and the BJP began as soon as the joint statement was issued. How a manipulative PM betrayed the Left, forcing it to withdraw support to the UPA Government on July 8, is well known. Equally well known is how he violated the public commitment given by his own
Foreign Minister, Pranab Mukherjee, that the Government would go to the IAEA only after securing the vote of confidence in Parliament. But the nation must be alerted against a new conspiracy afoot to commit another betrayal. The Telegraph of Kolkata carried a front-page report on July 15, titled, Sink or survive, deal done. Quoting highly placed official sources, it said: “The nuclear deal is ‘done’, whether the UPA survives the trust vote or not. The deal will happen because the Government is clear that it is in the supreme national interest. If the Government has to go in the process, let it go.” An official source put it even more arrogantly: “As far as India is concerned, the deal has fled our shores. And India does not have an extradition treaty with Austria (its capital Vienna is the headquarters of the IAEA) to bring it back.”
RE:RE:RE:please read this
by indianpatriot on Jul 20, 2008 10:27 PM Permalink
The very next day, Rahul Gandhi tacitly endorsed this report, which has not been contradicted by the Government yet. “The nuclear deal is more important than the Government. If the Government falls while acting in the national interest, so be it.” In other words, as far as the PM and the Congress leadership are concerned, the deal is now a fait accompli. The trust vote is irrelevant vis-à-vis the fate of the deal. Consider the enormity of the fraud being committed on the people and Parliament of India. In July 2005, the PM had said, “Parliament in our country is sovereign.” In July 2008, he is in effect saying, “The verdict of Parliament does not matter. I am accountable to President Bush, not to the Indian Parliament.”
RE:RE:RE:RE:please read this
by indianpatriot on Jul 20, 2008 10:27 PM Permalink
How Dr Singh has viewed a deal between two sovereign nations through the prism of his personal relationship with George Bush — a relationship in which he sees himself as a junior partner — is evident from the dialogue between the two in Japan, on the sidelines of the G-8 summit earlier this month. After Bush congratulated him “on your leadership at home”, he said, “I’m very happy to report to the President that our relations have moved forward handsomely since our first meeting in July 2005.” Notice the words “I’m very happy to report to the President...” Is the Prime Minister of any self-respecting democratic nation expected to “report” the President of America? Would Dr Singh care to report to India’s Parliament, when it meets tomorrow and day after for a special session to determine the fate of his government, what assurance he gave to Bush in Japan?
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:please read this
by indianpatriot on Jul 20, 2008 10:27 PM Permalink
We do not know what is going to happen in the Lok Sabha on July 22. However, one thing is widely known. Dr Singh’s government, unsure of its survival, has been desperately trying to stitch together a majority by indulging in the worst kind of horse-trading New Delhi has seen, thereby setting a dangerous precedent in national politics. In his obsession to secure the nuclear deal at any cost, the “incorruptible” PM has blessed dozens of corrupt deals — to ensnare independent MPs and smaller parties, to poach bigger parties, to get criminal MPs out of jail, to pollute parliamentary democracy, in short, to mock the Republic of India.
The apolitical PM, who has never won a Lok Sabha election, may not care, but his party should know that there is a heavy price to be paid for his wrongdoings in the next parliamentary election, whenever they are held.
ITS BETTER FOR CONGRESS TO LOSE THE NO CONFIDENCE MOTION THIS TIME OVER THIS ONE SIDED DEAL WITH USA .OTHERWISE ,IF CONGRESS DOES MANAGE TO SCRAP THROUGH ..THEY WILL GO THROUGH HELL FOR 1 MORE YEAR BEFORE THE GENERAL ELECTIONS...BECAUSE THE SMALL PARTIES AND INDEPENDENTS THAT SUPPORT THEM WILL CREATE HELL FOR CONGRESS FOR MINISTERY POSITIONS OR LARGE SUMS OF MONEY... THEY ALL WILL PLUCK CONGRESS LIKE A PACK OF DOGS AND IN THE END CONGRESS WILL BE IN SUCH A STATE THAT THEY MIGHT MANAGE TO LIMP TO ONLY 50 SEATS WHEN THEY GENERAL ELECTIONS IN A YEARS TIME...
RE:tiger200002
by chandan bansidhar vyas on Jul 20, 2008 10:26 PM Permalink
I agree with you. Those who were not in power are very hungry and shall try to make quick bucks.
but I am happy that many young BJP and congress leaders are pro-reform and pro-liberalization. There might be hiccups along the way(Left) but the way forward is clear, it is full of reforms, liberalization and pro-growth and pro-development.
It is a right step taken by the present Government. It should be done at the earliest since it is my belief that the Nuke deal is for the interest of the country. Even luminaries like Dr. Kalam has supported the deal. The communists are now at the loosing end. The are mostly a corrupt bunch of persons living lavishly at the cost of the public and forgetting the ideology of communism which has no become redundant everywhere in this world.
