RE:The Hindu culture
by Nag Koteswar on Jul 21, 2008 03:21 PM Permalink
wow...at last i could see one person giving the right view ...even i have the same idea right from my first standard..i am not biased to any religion.as i was taught all religions from 1st to 12th class...i deeply rever all religions...but the society is filled with some dumb headed,half knowledge senseless mavericks...who dont understand what is difference between spirituality and religion.few days back when i was in a discussion with an elderly man who's an atheist and a good muslim student(she does namaaz five times,i mean sincere muslim)..i poured out the same...god is that unfathomable, incomprehensible,stupendous energy which gave birth to the universe,therfore einstein nd other physicists rightly said energy and matter are interconvertible.there is no god with a single form and name...all are one...but people of different regions of the world view in different angle the same ULTIMATE goal of life and prefer to call IT in their own language of interest and follow a path which suits their lifestyle...the language differs but the inner meaning of all scriptures remains the same..a good analogy,people in russia,japan,canada,palestina view the path to greenland in different ways respectively but ultimately all reach the destined goal.
RE:The Hindu culture
by Naveen on Jul 21, 2008 01:53 PM Permalink
Religion is a relatively new term when people began starting their own faiths. So, there is only one thing in this world...Sanatan Dharma. Either you follow it by practising Dharma or you do not by practising Adharma.
RE:The Hindu culture
by sanjay on Jul 21, 2008 02:04 PM Permalink
@farhan just STFU,if u dont know! in first place its not a hindi word,its a sanskrit word which is considered as mother of most of the indian languages and if it is not sin in ur religion,then do read bhagavad gita to get a better understanding of dharma!
RE:RE:The Hindu culture
by Naveen on Jul 21, 2008 02:55 PM Permalink
Sanatan Dharma becomes Shaitan Dharma for Younus Siddique. Bad Karma...what to do?
RE:The Hindu culture
by sanjay on Jul 21, 2008 01:52 PM Permalink
Y should we need a religion to live in a ciilized manner?? Religion is purely a personal choice!
RE:RE:The Hindu culture
by Nag Koteswar on Jul 21, 2008 04:25 PM Permalink
A scientist may call it energy,which binds all atoms to form matter,no matter which religion it belongs to,it knows no differnce,same as the sun,which shines equally on all.people should grow up to understand the subtle things in life which nature preaches every moment.taking an analogy,people of different regions of the world prefer different dishes preferably home made ones(lets choose all items of equal calories)..but ultimately the outcome is same.everyone has their hunger gone with their stomachs full,finally there is no difference in bioenergitics when same amount of energy is released in all cases.ofcourse sanathana dharma, which even got fabulous response in parliament of religions when briefly expounded by Swami Vivekananda in USA in 19th century,is the oldest(thousands of years B.C.)way of following a righteous life,it was not defined as a specific religion, and islam is recent,somewhere in 632 A.D. but its the taste of the people who adopt what kind of lifestyle but both are not denied as its said old is gold and also latest is best.some people in high posts lure innocent people in the name of religion,region,community,caste(ultimately money,etc.)who have no clear idea about politics,leave alone the nuclear deal which nearly half the members in parliament wont know clearly the scientific,economic,and the social outcome of it but simply vote like a flock of sheep which follows the one leading without any discrimination;everyone is seeing their self interest,how much
RE:India Shining
by starlee on Jul 21, 2008 02:09 PM Permalink
Ally we cant solve the power problem entirely . we still have to use other methods like solar , tidal etc ..but getting uranium will be a great help to India
Azizane Millat..belive what asad bhai doing is correct. he is nt like other politicians taking money for there personal..... He demamded inplementation of fatimi committe report. This will nt benifit him in person but will benifit on the whole muslim community.
RE:KUDOS to OWAISI
by vspi on Jul 21, 2008 01:41 PM Permalink
Thanx younus- You're really doing a great job of 'exposing' the actual sentiments of muslims in this country- this way the rest of the majority community wud see thru the veil of pseudo-secularism & minority appeasement that most of the 'secular" parties have been fooling the country with.
you should have read all the other posts before replying to my post ....
how ever .....
if you think HINDU appeasement is secularism and democracy then i dont want to be a part of it ...
if you think praising HINDUS is patriotism then we would love to be traitors ...if you think fighting against the cruelty and terrorism of HINDUS will make you a terrorist then ofcourse we would love to be terrorists ...
RE:RE:RE:KUDOS to OWAISI
by vspi on Jul 21, 2008 01:55 PM Permalink
I dont need to read yur earlier posts as we all are well aware that 'secularism, democracy, patriotism" are words unknow to islamic faith. (Murder, maheym, terrorism, fidayeen, intolerence towards other faiths, living in the 6th century, traitors etc.) are what you guys practice and preach.
RE:KUDOS to OWAISI
by Naveen on Jul 21, 2008 01:40 PM Permalink
Didn't your forefathers left you a note to inform you that they were Hindus too and you should reconvert once muslim criminal rule is over?
RE:KUDOS to OWAISI
by younus siddique on Jul 21, 2008 01:44 PM Permalink
we are greatful to our forefathers that they abandoned HINDUISM and embrace ISLAM ......
we are thankful to them ...otherwise i would have been worshiping human organ or ice ....dancing half naked infront of milestones and dead stones ..
RE:RE:KUDOS to OWAISI
by vspi on Jul 21, 2008 02:20 PM Permalink
yeah and what abt fathers and uncles selling off their 14-16 yr old 'virgin' daughters to 80 yr old arabs as their 15th & 16th wives only for a their 1 weeks sojurn to Hyderabad and latter returning with "meher" after 3 inbereited words of "talaq" from the old arabs.
RE:KUDOS to OWAISI
by vspi on Jul 21, 2008 01:50 PM Permalink
Its better than travelling thousands of miles on 'subsidy' provided by Hindus' tax monies to pelt stones at an "imaginary devil". Its nice to know that muslims thereby are invoking Goddess Laxmi (Goddess of wealth) to fund their own haj yatra. Atleast the Hindus don't beg for money from anyone to subsidise their pilgrimages.
RE:KUDOS to OWAISI
by farhan on Jul 21, 2008 02:24 PM Permalink
I am a mughal.but i say that Mughal emperor Akber havr donr a big mistake by giving subsidy to hindus for going to worship ice. and what ur talking abt the subsidy is from muslim tax and nt from hindus
RE:KUDOS to OWAISI
by Naveen on Jul 21, 2008 02:35 PM Permalink
Who is Akbar to give subsidy to the natives? Mughals are invaders and you are a converted muslim.
RE:RE:KUDOS to OWAISI
by Naveen on Jul 21, 2008 02:18 PM Permalink
And, to your explanation on human organs and ice....the entire Universe is within the Supreme Being. Shiva Lingam stands for the Purusha, the Supreme Creator. Ice Lingam indicates that God can take any form. Human Body is itself a wonderful creation. Scientists have been studying and have not been able to understand completely on how some of the parts like Brain, etc. work.
Worhsipping stones - Have you ever seen a Idol installation i.e., Pratishta? It is not just a stone. Vedic scholars recite the vedas, perform other rituals and place a Yantra underneath the idol. Basically, they create a image of the God to be worshipped since you cannot see the God directly. Also, we are free to pray to Him by looking towards the open sky.
RE:KUDOS to OWAISI
by starlee on Jul 21, 2008 02:03 PM Permalink
younus ? in which way hindus are traitors ? and btw what language do u speak at home or to ur friends ? Hindi aint it ?if u dislike hindus so much i suggest u stop using hindi and use arab ? because hindi is native to India And so is Hinduism . and nothing can ever match the greatness of Hindu culture . But am happy about one thing u said u're an Indian thanks to u
you know HINDI and URDU is derived from ARABIC and PARSI ....even the NAME HINDU was given by arabs .....
if you hate and dont like muslims then you should start speaking SANSKRIT ....
there was nothing called HINDU CULTURE ...and it vanished long long ago ....the culture which we proudly called as INDIAN CULTURE is nothing but a mixture of ARABIC and PERSIAN CULTURE ...
RE:KUDOS to OWAISI
by Ravin Jadhav on Jul 22, 2008 03:23 PM Permalink
Younus, answer to me. Show me which muslim/arab wear saree, bindi and mangalutra? show me one musleem who say 'OM'. Dont talk rubbish that Hinduism is mixture of Arabic & Persian. For your info, all the other culture and languages are new face of Sankrit. You mulla will never improve and change ur thoughts. You know what, in Mecca and Madina, its ancient Shiva's temple, and u ppl bow in front of him. ppl like u shud thrown out from Hindustan to Pakistan, where Hell is there for u. I respect all community but not ppl like u. i've so many musleem friend but they are Indians by birth. go to Hell of pakistan where they refer u as "mujaheer". Jai Hind!!!
RE:KUDOS to OWAISI
by starlee on Jul 21, 2008 02:29 PM Permalink
u ignorant fello ..Hindi derived from arabic ? and parsi ? what a joke ..then y is hindi is sanskrit look alike ? u have never to a school before ? all the way studied in a madrasah isit ? or maybe u've never tried to learn about Indian culture ? almost all the languages in India are derived from sanskrit . get ur facts right my friend . If u want proof i've millions of'em . And do u have any ? Do u close ur both eyes when i write in Hindi ? do u know sanskrit is written in Devanagari and so is Hindi Arabic is entirely different every school kid knows that . also for ur info "The word hindī is of pre-Islamic Persian origin. It literally means "Indian", comprising hind "India", and the adjectival suffix -ī. The word was originally used by pre-Islamic Persian merchants and ambassadors in north India to refer to any Indian language. The eleventh-century writer Abū Rayhān al-Bīrūnī used it to refer to Sanskrit "Evidence from the 17th century indicates that the language then called "Hindi" existed in two differing styles: among Muslims it was liable to contain a larger component of Persian-derived words and would be written down in a script derived from Persian, while among Hindus it used a vocabulary more influenced by Sanskrit and was written in Devanagari script. These styles eventually developed into modern Urdu and modern Hindi respectively
RE:KUDOS to OWAISI
by Hello_man on Jul 21, 2008 02:32 PM Permalink
Ex cuse me I m not a religious person but what kind of greatness u r looking in hindu culture. This community is a most corrupt community of India.They never ever tolrate other community. If hindus r so greate why India is 3rd world country. They almost 70-75 of this country, if they r great then why India is poor corrupt still developing country???????? have u any answer??????????? This is reality not a hatered toward any particular community........
RE:RE:KUDOS to OWAISI
by vspi on Jul 21, 2008 02:37 PM Permalink
Its a 3rd world country becoz we try and feed a huge useless minority by giving them subsidy and spending billions on army & police to protect our own citizens from the "enemy within". And moreover if you don't like staying here, pls go and join the 'developed nations" like bangladesh & pakistan.
RE:RE:KUDOS to OWAISI
by Naveen on Jul 21, 2008 02:42 PM Permalink
Biggest Joke..."They never ever tolrate other community".
Go and see in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Malaysia, Indonesia where Hinduism was once dominant. Also look at Middle East and Africa. Wherever Islam exists, there is war and conflict and other cultures disapper to a large extent.
RE:KUDOS to OWAISI
by vspi on Jul 21, 2008 02:32 PM Permalink
Starlee- your're wasting your time and energy on a mental retardee who's education in a madrassa hasn't taken his juvenile imbecile mind back to the 6th century. Had it not been for other religions and faiths these guys wud still be fighting wars in the deserts using swords & choppers and siring 00s of illigetimate children some even from their own daughters. They shud thank the Americans who helped them tap their own oil else they wud be wandering in the desert like their ancesteral 'bedouins' without food or water or a decent bath. Its difficult for him and his community to come out of this. Leave them alone they're all going to perish in this "hijri" era according to their scriptures. Its said "Vinashkalye viprit buddhi"
RE:KUDOS to OWAISI
by starlee on Jul 21, 2008 02:50 PM Permalink
vspi , i cant let it go like that . IT HURTS U KNOW ? and to u Hello_man i've a question to ask , which asian country other than japan is a developed country ? dont tell me china . as it's still developing . U wanna know the greatness of hindu culture ? go and read up . just type contributions of Hindu/Indian culture . and Another question from me which of the muslim countries are tecnologically developed ? yes they are wealthy because they've oil but tell me what about the technology ?
And HM do u know India was the wealthiest of all nations before the arrival of british ? Those times India was called "The Golden Bird" . Indian was attacked and looted by alot of invaders . U ask me y India is not a developed country because of communists who'll never let any developments come by , because of our policy , political system and also becuase of people like u !! And if u have no particular hatred towards any community y did u use the Word "Hindus"? werent u living in India too ?
China is the biggest enemy for india, they want to conquer india. already claiming arunachal pradesh is part of china., our left parties are taking money from chineese govt and going against the nuclear deal. The deal is going to give electricity to the crores of houses of muslim, hindu, christian etc. well done MIM
RE:Go ahead
by younus siddique on Jul 21, 2008 01:28 PM Permalink
but those who ruled have indian interest at heart which is must and more than enough ....
if you want HINDU interest then you have to pack your bags and migrate to NEPAL ...the only hindu country on earth which already declared to become a secular country ...
RE:Go ahead
by vspi on Jul 21, 2008 01:42 PM Permalink
Thanx younus- You're really doing a great job of 'exposing' the actual sentiments of muslims in this country- this way the rest of the majority community wud see thru the veil of pseudo-secularism & minority appeasement that most of the 'secular" parties have been fooling the country with.
RE:Indian youth should support only party who fights against Islamic criminals and kill immediately
by younus siddique on Jul 21, 2008 01:17 PM Permalink
say HINDU youths ...not indians ...
you traitors doesnt belong to india ...so you are not indian...may be your forefathers migrated from NEPAL or KAILASA mountain which is in china now ...
RE:Indian youth should support only party who fights against Islamic criminals and kill immediately
by Vivek Harry on Jul 21, 2008 01:19 PM Permalink
you go back to Mongolia
RE:RE:Indian youth should support only party who fights against Islamic criminals and kill immediately
by Ally on Jul 21, 2008 01:36 PM Permalink
Vivak this is not the Answer - it look you gone MAD - well done Younus
RE:RE:Indian youth should support only party who fights against Islamic criminals and kill immediately
by younus siddique on Jul 21, 2008 01:36 PM Permalink
we belong to india ......and will kick you back to sri-lanka....you can blow yourself there ...
RE:RE:RE:Indian youth should support only party who fights against Islamic criminals and kill immediately
by starlee on Jul 21, 2008 01:57 PM Permalink
younus are u being proud to be an Indian or being proud to be a Muslim ? And about blowing up i thought that's what ur friends usually like to do ? please understand that u're still living in a Hindu dominated country , so respect the Hindu way am not asking u to follow it but dont tarnish it . As u might agree every religion has faults .
RE:What Mullahs want more than this?
by starlee on Jul 21, 2008 01:25 PM Permalink
Hey brother , I wish muslims understood that its because of our culture only they were allowed to flourish in India . Just for an example there were 15% Hindus in Pakistan during the time of partition and now there are nearly o% ?? while the muslim population in India jumped considerably . Also recently i read an arcticle it says in malaysia non-muslims are not allowed to use the "Allah" as it was reserved only for muslims ? so is Allah and GOD different ?
RE:RE:What Mullahs want more than this?
by Ally on Jul 21, 2008 01:38 PM Permalink
STAR plz what you want to say about Malayisa - plz write again, what u want to say ?
RE:RE:RE:What Mullahs want more than this?
by starlee on Jul 21, 2008 01:52 PM Permalink
In malaysia the muslim majority gets more attention than others they have more privillages. And they treat Indians like the lowest class of society but ofcourse if u're a Indian muslim it's different . There u're not allowed to convert to other religion ? If u have to convert from muslim u've go through some kinda counselling ? So much for muslim secularism
