India can use computer simulations to conduct test results instead of relying on actual ground tests. This process is being followed by most of the nuclear weapon carrying nations for more than 15 years. India tested in 1998 along with Pakistan. Recently North Korea tested a nuclear device and many other nations like it will line-up for testing nuclear devices if India doesn't change it's stance. Among them will be Iran, Saudi Arabia and possibly Bangladesh in faraway future with Pakistan doing it frequently, along with some rubbish nations around the world blaming the reason for their tests on India. India should refrain from such tests and maintain some dignity when it is about to be a superpower. Nuclear deal is a good deal and it can only enhance Indian capabilities.
RE:nuclear tests
by ranjeet reddy on Jul 19, 2008 03:27 PM Permalink
dear vikram I fully agree with you when u say we can simulate on computers. Good but dear please undestand that to simulate also we need primary data. Are countries with primary data willing to share with the countries who do not have the data? Will US or any nuclear countries give the data to us? Please think.
RE:nuclear tests
by Vikram on Jul 19, 2008 03:32 PM Permalink
Maybe the Russians will share it with us for some price. On the other hand, why can't the previous results be used for new simulation according to the proportions of nuclear devices tested in both the cases? But still, India can get the raw data if it's intelligence agency is active.
The BJP makes a huge noise that MPs are being purchased. Can the the price of MPs spiral without BJP making counter bids? Can independent MPs for 4 1/2 years join BJP now without money changing hands?
That BJp is also a master of bribing is demonstrated by their party unit in Karnataka. There opposition MLAs are given Rs 5 crores plus cabinet berths. The latter are made to resign their seats and seek re-election under BJP symbol.
Almost 50% of BJP MLas are controlled by the Bellary Mining Mafia
India tested two times. Both times we attracted trade and nuclear sanctions. Pokhran II test under NDA regime also prompted the US to constitute the NSG - curbing our right to nuclear trade. As a result for want of spares and fuel, our capacity utilization of reactors started declining.
If we test now, sanctions will hit India's growth story which has already taken some blows due to global inflation. Unlike previous times, the deal permits us to test if other countries test.
There is also an unofficial ban on nuclear testing. This is why no country has tested a nuclear device for decades.
All countries instead opt for computer simulation using past test results. This is also why Pokhran II was not confined to a single test but involved a series of 5. Once that was achieved, Vajpayeee in 1999 and Jaswant Singh assured the world on the floor of the UN that India will unilaterally and permanently cease to test nuclear devices.
RE:BJP's Hypocrisy
by All Right on Jul 19, 2008 03:18 PM Permalink
MY CLONE:
Pokhran II didn't happen in 1975 -- which is when NSG was constituted..... but your research on this front is as erratic as all other "facts " you are spreading on this forum... . . ;-)
The deal DOES NOT permit us to test under any condition..... so don't spread that myth on the forum either.... :-)
There is NO UNOFFICIAL BAN ON NUCLEAR TESTING... this is another one of your imaginary "facts" to appear on this forum... ;-)
Finally Jaswant and Vajpayee did NOT assure the world that India will unilaterally and permanently cease to test nuclear devices.... another one of your "facts".... ever heard of a term "voluntary moratorium"?.... there is nothing "unilateral" nor "permanent" about it...
So stop spreading your myths on this forum..... better enter a story telling competition... you might get this year's Bookers prize for fiction...
The monsoon have so far failed Karnataka. The BJP Power Minister observed "If monsoon fails, only God can save the state"
Yet, the BJP votes against the Deal that promises to increase power supply.
They do so for short-term gains. But the medium to long term as people face power cuts, load-shedding, unable to use agricultural gensets, industries facing power shortage lays off people etc, the people of India will spit on Advani on Karat and the parties which they head
RE:me
by Ram Sharma on Jul 19, 2008 02:56 PM Permalink
This is a private matter, why r u raising it here? How is it relevant to the discussions here? I think that u should not try to come between Rahul & her Colombian friend. Or hv u got his consent?
