India signed a declaration in 2005 allowing US to make a Law for India to follow. US passed Hyde Act which is the enabling act for the 123 agreement which we signed later chaining India stand still in all future nuclear related programmes. Discussions (Secret) for Nuclear Projects worth 40000MW is completed and waiting for signature in the opportune time. Shape of project and conditions incorporated are kept secret. These projects are slated to be completed by 2030 (10% of total). The availability of infrastructure in India for such huge and risky projects is doubtful. There is every possibility that prefabricated plants (Nuclear junks) will be brought here to reduce period of project's. The project cost is 3,20,000 Crores (appx) at the present rate and taking the inflation it will be 3 or 4 times more. We do not have enough capital to take up the project from our own resources for such large investments. We take foreign loan at the dictated conditions with several strings attached (Huge burden to the coming generations). The unit price for energy will be not less than Rs20/-. Taking into account the decommissioning cost ($3400million at the present cost-data per plant per year for 10-15 years) the unit cost will be more than Rs40/-.
RE:RE:N-Deal_call to Indians
by Gopal on Jul 18, 2008 12:22 AM Permalink
contd.. We have the know-how for Uranium based technology. We sign the present N-deal for getting Uranium. Identified Uranium deposit (mainly Canada and Australia -50%) world over will last for 60 years from now at the present rate of use. By the time we commission our projects the availability of Uranium will near the end point. Then it will be the most expensive material which we can not afford to buy. But we can not sit idle after investing the huge capital. We will be forced to sign in 'dotted lines' to get Uranium. When the Uranium supply comes to an end within a few years what shall we do with plants? Mere waste of the huge capital invested and we have to find huge capital for decommissioning also.Nuclear waste disposal is costly. It is reported that it is to be kept safe for 10000 years. We have to buy the know-how at dictated conditions. Many of the nuclear plants world over is due for decommissioning. Briton started it at Sellafield(Commissioned in 1957) The protection against terror attack is another problem to be handled. Considering the present modus operandi of terrorists it is near impossible.
RE:RE:RE:N-Deal_call to Indians
by Gopal on Jul 18, 2008 12:23 AM Permalink
cntd.. It is in the media that we are near success in the Thorium based technology. Just five years from now. We have 60% of world Thorium deposit. Let us go slow and wait for the development of our own know how to produce energy from our own Thorium. By this time the waste disposal know how will be available at affordable conditions. We can manage the difference (10%) in demand by some other ways. Why should we carry the heavy burden of astronomically huge loans? It is a perpetual bondage!!!
Why this 'undue haste' to sign this deal? We are a democratic society. Decisions are taken based on some democratic values and principles. We have an elected Parliament. It is the prerogative of the Parliament to enter into any agreements with foreign countries. Here the deal was kept a secret from the Parliament. There were no in-depth discussions in the AICC and Council of Ministers and ruling partners. Just casual briefings which everyone listen and say YES. There were assurances from leaders that deal will be signed with consensus from various sections of people. But the government failed to arrange a discussion in the Parliament. How dare the government to go ahead with the deal? Where from they get the courage to sign a deal with hidden agenda in an undemocratic and deceitful way?
' Most Western nations, save France and Japan, now avoid new nuclear power plants'. Everyone fear the problems connected with waste disposal. The government should be in the know about this.
RE:RE:RE:RE:N-Deal_call to Indians
by Gopal on Jul 18, 2008 12:24 AM Permalink
cntd.. But keep silent. The rush of huge investments with in a period of just a few years will make the Indian financial structure break. This leads to complete chaos in every field of life in India. 'The high priests of the nuclear religion are specialists in the art of misleading public opinion'. Why not the present government have a rethink on the subject? Let there be proper debates in Parliament and the media. Leave it to the next government or the government of the time to decide on this. Avoid this undignified speedy mendicancy. Avoid the 'harakiri'.
RE:N-Deal_call to Indians
by CSHut on Jul 18, 2008 01:06 AM Permalink
Are you an expert? Beofre writing this lengthy piece, shouldnt you tell us where you acquired all this information...wikipedia?
The fact that people in India do not even trust highly educated, apolitical people, shows their own depravation. Do you think you have more knowledge/information than Mr. Karlodkar ?
This is a lengthy posting. Be patient and read all. India signed a declaration in 2005 allowing US to make a Law for India to follow. US passed Hyde Act which is the enabling act for the 123 agreement which we signed later chaining India stand still in all future nuclear related programmes. Discussions (Secret) for Nuclear Projects worth 40000MW is completed and waiting for signature in the opportune time. Shape of project and conditions incorporated are kept secret. These projects are slated to be completed by 2030 (10% of total). The availability of infrastructure in India for such huge and risky projects is doubtful. There is every possibility that prefabricated plants (Nuclear junks) will be brought here to reduce period of project's. The project cost is 3,20,000 Crores (appx) at the present rate and taking the inflation it will be 3 or 4 times more. We do not have enough capital to take up the project from our own resources for such large investments. We take foreign loan at the dictated conditions with several strings attached (Huge burden to the coming generations). The unit price for energy will be not less than Rs20/-. Taking into account the decommissioning cost ($3400million at the present cost-data per plant per year for 10-15 years) the unit cost will be more than Rs40/-.
RE:Call to Indians_N-Deal
by Gopal on Jul 18, 2008 12:10 AM Permalink
contd.. We have the know-how for Uranium based technology. We sign the present N-deal for getting Uranium. Identified Uranium deposit (mainly Canada and Australia -50%) world over will last for 60 years from now at the present rate of use. By the time we commission our projects the availability of Uranium will near the end point. Then it will be the most expensive material which we can not afford to buy. But we can not sit idle after investing the huge capital. We will be forced to sign in 'dotted lines' to get Uranium. When the Uranium supply comes to an end within a few years what shall we do with plants? Mere waste of the huge capital invested and we have to find huge capital for decommissioning also.Nuclear waste disposal is costly. It is reported that it is to be kept safe for 10000 years. We have to buy the know-how at dictated conditions. Many of the nuclear plants world over is due for decommissioning. Briton started it at Sellafield(Commissioned in 1957) The protection against terror attack is another problem to be handled. Considering the present modus operandi of terrorists it is near impossible. It is in the media that we are near success in the Thorium based technology. Just five years from now. We have 60% of world Thorium deposit. Let us go slow and wait for the development of our own know how to produce energy from our own Thorium. By this time the waste disposal know how will be available at affordable conditions. We can manage the difference (10%) in dem
RE:RE:Call to Indians_N-Deal
by Gopal on Jul 18, 2008 12:13 AM Permalink
contd.. We can manage the difference (10%) in demand by some other ways. Why should we carry the heavy burden of astronomically huge loans? It is a perpetual bondage!!!
Why this 'undue haste' to sign this deal? We are a democratic society. Decisions are taken based on some democratic values and principles. We have an elected Parliament. It is the prerogative of the Parliament to enter into any agreements with foreign countries. Here the deal was kept a secret from the Parliament. There were no in-depth discussions in the AICC and Council of Ministers and ruling partners. Just casual briefings which everyone listen and say YES. There were assurances from leaders that deal will be signed with consensus from various sections of people. But the government failed to arrange a discussion in the Parliament. How dare the government to go ahead with the deal? Where from they get the courage to sign a deal with hidden agenda in an undemocratic and deceitful way? ........... ' Most Western nations, save France and Japan, now avoid new nuclear power plants'. Everyone fear the problems connected with waste disposal. The government should be in the know about this.
RE:Call to Indians_N-Deal
by Reformer on Jul 18, 2008 12:20 AM Permalink
sounds reasonable..though i couldn't comprehend aftre first three lines... what I say...if the project is going to benifit us in 2030 then we should not risk it..who knows what will happen by then? I mean...may be third world war? or 2012 doomsday? or any meteor hit the earth and half of lower India sunken into sea..or this global warming etc? so why to plan for so long? at least we will have liberty to make and use NUKES if third world war starts. I know I sound stupid...but still...don't laugh at me, otherwise I will tell your name to teacher.
RE:Call to Indians_N-Deal
by venkat on Jul 18, 2008 01:00 AM Permalink
If PV or Manmohan will think the same in 80-90's and avoid Ecconomic reforms in India, and the India will be like an african country or less than that by today. Please remember that in the history of a nation 20 or 25 years is a not a long time like in a life of an individual. Don't expect overnight benifits from any decision taken by governments.
RE:Call to Indians_N-Deal
by George on Jul 18, 2008 02:01 AM Permalink
Dr.Singh is the father of modern India,noone else deserve it,today we are proud to be an Indian tomorow if Dr.Singh could pass the deal we could do far better if not the next PM ownwords has to go to bejing for their kindness.
Why a correct politician has to change his individual views when ever his party has changed its views and stand. I really support Somnanth for this strong stand to oppose BJP, when the Left parties has changed they stand to oppose BJP. I am sure in near new generation left party leaders will support the BJP lead government in near furture.
RE:India wa the head quarter of British Empire now it will be the head Quarter of American Empire
by CSHut on Jul 18, 2008 12:09 AM Permalink
you think India has vast mineral or other resources, like oil? Or you think they want indians as cheap labor?
RE:India wa the head quarter of British Empire now it will be the head Quarter of American Empire
by Guest on Jul 18, 2008 03:24 AM Permalink
Raj is a Mallu commie hahaha he is supporting his mallu commrade karat - parat -marat
Ours is a Parliamentary Party system of Government. Anyone who doesn't like the decision of the part and can't follow the party whip has to resign from any authority and MP seat given to him by the Party and stay un-qualified to vote in the parliament. Ultimately it is the party that is responsible for any decisions they make in the Parliament.
This is just being blown out of proportion by the media to engage the Left leaders from wooing other MPs.
RE:Mr. Somnath is doing the wright thing as per Indian Constitution
by Surabi Dilliwala on Jul 17, 2008 11:53 PM Permalink
Or he can retain the MP seat if he disagrees just about the confidence vote and ok with other decisions made so far and follow the Party whip and vote against the Govt.
CPIM is ruling west- bengal through a drastic communal policy of muslimisation.The opposition to nuclear deal also stem from the same premises.There is a strong competition between left parties,Trinamool and Congress to woo muslims.CPIM has also taken leadership in Kashmir valley to oppose land allotment to Amarnath shrine.Even newspapers like Telgraph,Statesman are constantly criticising Hindu-culture,Gujrat and Narendra Modi.All these entities led by goons of Subhas Chakraborty and Mamta Banerjee recently evicted Taslima a liberal bangladeshi author from Kolkata. Somnath,Subhas,Buddhadev,Mamta can not wash away their crimes against majority by calling BJP a communal party.
RE:Communal BJP
by k Rand on Jul 17, 2008 11:42 PM Permalink
If CPM is muuslimisation then why would it kills Muslims Recently . These all politics are biased with RSS . its all show that many parties try to be friendly with MUSLIMS. You all K A F I R S are one and same.
RE:Communal BJP
by nai on Jul 18, 2008 12:08 AM Permalink
The muslims are living in great ignorance of Kafir terminology. Kafir means non-believer of 'God' and not non-believer of 'Allah'. Allah is just an arabic term to describe god. In spreading hatred against so-called kafirs, muslims are only committing great offences and digging their own graves. Ofcourse they will not understand this now because they have been taught this hatred since their childhood. But once the soul leaves body, all its relationships, land of birth and even the religion is left behind. There is only one true dharma and that is to love God. Surrender unto Him.. without any hatred for anyone, in full knowledge that He is the sole proprieter of everything. True knowledge comes when one realises that he is not this body. But unfortunately, muslims dont even have a basic spiritual conception of the difference between soul and body.. thats why they consider themselves muslims.. simply bcoz they are born in a muslim family for a period of 60-70 yrs. But they never question themselves why they are born muslims and someone else a hindu? their religion cannot provide answers to such basic questions which is the beginning of spiritual knowledge.
To your unfortune, these teachings are present in the shastras only.. and cannot be found in any oter religion. Thats why those who are following sanatana dharma truly (not many are left today) are only god loving and peaceful people left on this planet. Rest all are tamasic by nature.
Yes,Somnath Chaterjee needs to step down from speakership on moral grounds since his left party withdrew its support to the UPA govt which only installed him in that seat.Congress preferred to choose him as speaker only to keep the left in good humour at least this way since they did not want to be a part of the govt and a party to all its decisions-good or bad.There is nothing wrong even if the left asks him formally to step down.His continuing in the seat despite his party's withdrawal of its support to the govt only would be like ones treating the serpent as enemy,but treating its tail as relative on a plea that,after all,the tail does not contain any venom.
Somnath Chatterjee has become the next best joker aftr Raj Narain (who fought against Indira Gandhi & put her into trouble) If he felt that Cricketers Film Stars are paid astronomical sums of money, did he ever raise this point in the past, anhywhere? Does he think he is a peon in Delhi Muncipal Corpn and not Speaker? Why did he not raise his voice when IPL was wasting so much of flood light power particularly when India is always in shortage of power? West Bengal industries are ruined on account of Communists. Jyothi Basu knows this fact very well but cant openly accept facts because it would be in favour of BJP. If Communists first drive out Congress out of Indian Politics, real Communism will come to India, whether ruled by BJP or any other party.
RE:Speaker
by suvojit chatterjee on Jul 18, 2008 12:01 AM Permalink
The Interview was with Subhas Chakraborty not with Somnath Chatterjee.Now you can understand that you not Somnath Chatterjee is a joker.
This idiot said he was glad 911 happened and bin Laden taught US a lesson. This moron needs to be told in no uncertain terms he cant be judging BJP which is a national party and not a shoddy Communist party that destroyed Bengal and is only elected in 2 Indian states. Commies pander to radical Islamists from across the border in W Bengal and have integrated the madrassa system into W Bengal School board. India needs to watch Communists and Islamic entente.
