Congress is offering 25 crore per MP....how did they get the money?? ofcouse USA has paid for it... now the question is why r they paying so much money??? to help india??....
People wake up... Sonia Gandhi is selling India... making it look like PM singh is doing it..
RE:N-deal worth thousands of crores
by Indoamerican on Jul 17, 2008 12:14 AM Permalink
Dude usa dont have so much money now to pay India. It is in economic crisis. Also dont blame evrything on Sonia... I too dont like her. But it is not good to blame her for evrything. India has many politicians who can sell country to usa,china,muslim world. Just do ur duty. Elect a capable person from your VOTE irrespective of his party affiliation.
RE:N-deal worth thousands of crores
by Pramod V on Jul 17, 2008 12:20 AM Permalink
Dude, u know nothing how government and MNCs work together... anyways..
RE:N-deal worth thousands of crores
by Surabi Dilliwala on Jul 17, 2008 12:27 AM Permalink
Where do you think the Billions of US$ War funding to Iraq is heading?
RE:N-deal worth thousands of crores
by myindiamylove on Jul 17, 2008 02:49 AM Permalink
Dude,The tax payers in US are paying the money for funding Iraq war.And thats what is pissing them off.Even MNCs won't dare to risk billion of dollars to do business in Iraq leave alone funding the war.
The benefits of nuclear deal are that India is very much likely to become an economic superpower like Japan & USA, solve electricity shortage problems, more factories can be started, more employment can be generated, overall economic improvement of people will take place. Now India had already successfully exploded nuclear weapons, more and more missiles and nuclear weapons can be built in due course of time when India gradually becomes an economic superpower. Further India can build and buy more and more conventional weapons (read 10 times of present level of conventional weapons, 10 times present fighter aircraft and 10 times more missiles and 10 times more nuclear weapons when India becomes an economic superpower. No country will raise a hand on India and we will have more than sufficient weapons to crush any regional agressor. There is no need to panic of chinese or pakistan attack, as Indian misslies with nuclear warheads can reach Bejing. It is unlikely that China will attack India, as India has nuclear weapons & missiles. Now India had to become a economic superpower like USA, Japan, China. Further more research can be carried out using Thorium as fuel which India has in plenty. New reactors can be designed using Thorium as fuel. As far as I understood not much research was carried out in the world as huge reserves of Uranium was found in the world. It is unlikely that China or Pakisthan will attack India, as India is a nuclear power and India has missiles and nuclear
RE:Nuclear Deal
by Surabi Dilliwala on Jul 17, 2008 12:29 AM Permalink
The fact about Nuclear power is: Increase in power production through nuclear energy is from 2.6% to 5.5% of total power produced in India after 20 years. Expenditure is $120 Billion not including the re-organisation expenses. And driving the disappointed scientists to other countries as proffesors to sell the latest research developments.
RE:Nuclear Deal
by Sandeep on Jul 17, 2008 01:09 AM Permalink
Where do you get these future percentage numbers? Is this the basis of your argument? At this time, current power generation is 132,000 MW. Maybe it will double by 2020(not sure). Nuclear power is projected to be 20,000 to 40,000 MW by 2020. Still that would make this anywhere from 7.6% to 15% by 2020. Note also, even 20,000 MW which is lower projected range is about 15% of today's energy which is quite big. Lastly, do you know currently, nuclear reactors are running at half the capacity in India?
Congress: wants deal because, it dont want people to think that congress is incapable executing any plans succesfully. Also want this deal so to divert current problems the country is facing like inflation, and anti-incumbency.. At this point of time Congress (Generally communal (Pro-muslim) seem not taking them (Muslim) into account as Muslims are against to anything that is US linked and Development. BJP: The only problem with BJP with this deal is, they wanted this to happen in their time so that they could have got the fame. But I give full credit to BJP (NDA) for making India a nuclear power. CPI(M): I do not want to say anything about these p..ig.s and make my self dirty. They are actually a party to be there in china. All remaining partries in India just would like to go with big wind direction as they have their own regional interests. Finally we all Indians just helplessly have to take this shit... I blame only me, U and all voters for electing criminals, appeasers, oppurtunists and anti-nationals to form government. We sowed a poison plant and we are getting poison.
Well if you all recollect in India cars and 2 wheelers with learner drivers and drivers who have a learners license have the big red coloured "L" board in the front and back of the car or bike.
The "L" board signifies and warns fellow drivers that the driver is still learning and is definately bound to make errors and mistakes as he has a Learners License.
Well in the same theme we must look at Yuwaraj RahulBaba Gandhi from the Royal family of the Nehru-Gandhis of Amethi and Rai Bareily, is currently learning politics.
So the tittle 'Rahul Gandhi. LL.' (Learning License) is now so apt to this upcomming comedy, action and family sop opera from the Royal Family of the Nehru-Gandhis of Rai Bariley and Amethi.
Move over Mr JyotirAditya Schindia, the Harvard and Stanford educated original Royal, we do not need original Royals when we have our own plagarised and duplicate Royals the Nehru-Gandhis of Rai Bariley and Amethi.
Please ignore any comments made by this 'Learning License Politician' in his attempts in learning to be the next Royal danystic PM of India.
RE:Rahul Gandhi . LL (Learning License)
by Indoamerican on Jul 16, 2008 11:58 PM Permalink
U are comparing apples and orenges. I agree interms of looks at present Rahul is better than Mr. Advani. But after 40yrs,(When If Rahul is alive without getting any life style/aquired diseases) he can be ugly looking than what the looks that Mr.Advani has now. But definitly Advani is a seasoned politician than any body in parliment now. I also agree that Mr Advani is bit oppurtunistic. Tell me in politics who is not?
- Well, a lot on the Nuclear deal has been discussed about. The Pros and Cons.
And a lots rhetorics too followed.
As if we are about to commit a harakiri and drain out our treasury next friday.
Nothing can be short-sighted than this.
Why are we hurrying up then?
Our reactors are starved of resources, is well-known. We are deprived of best of technologies in healthcare, telemetry and other fields are also well recorded. The fact that we can not import ultra-light tennis racket speaks of volumes about the international isolation that we are facing today.
Now, at this moment, USA wants to dribble the ball for us.
Let's set aside the reasons for a moment. But USA is dirtying its hands for us in terms of influencing Australia and NSG, IAEA, its own Congress to have a deal with India.
We surely could not have done this all alone.
George Bush wants to do it before end of his tenure.
He has set the whole machinery in roll for this.
And he has succeeded to a large extent.
Bush's positive actions and temperament has even led Obama to go in favour of the Nuclear deal with India.
Chinese have okayed it.
France is all set to open the business with India and may even change its global outlook towards India, which has not been very positive so far.
Well, that's a huge political willingness in favour of India.
India should grab the opportunity. And grab the deal.
RE:Need of the hour : Take advantage of the political willingness
by prabhat mohanty on Jul 16, 2008 11:17 PM Permalink
cond.
- Whether we "operationalise" the deal in its current flavour depends on us. If we show reluctant at a later stage to buy a particular technology or even show our reluctance about "perpetuity", thenit's business lobby in USA would work hard for India to change the policy.
We do not have to do much.
And slowly, we will have whatever we always wanted.
RE:Need of the hour : Take advantage of the political willingness
by rajkiran on Jul 17, 2008 12:04 AM Permalink
Most of your arguments are correct. But, I'd ask you to change the perspective that US is friendly and hence they are dirtying their hands for our sake. India is now a huge consumer market and will only become bigger market. So, if they are imposing sanctions on the sale of any particular tech or as u said, light-weight tennis racket, its their loss too and they realize that the way forward is to do business with India.
Though I support the n-deal, I'd rather go with better negotiation of the deal, esp. given that n-deal is in no danger when Bush, Obama and McCain are all okay with the current one, we can afford to negotiate further.
RE:RE:Need of the hour : Take advantage of the political willingness
by prabhat mohanty on Jul 17, 2008 12:06 AM Permalink
- Let's set aside the reasons for a moment.
RE:RE:Need of the hour : Take advantage of the political willingness
by prabhat mohanty on Jul 17, 2008 12:10 AM Permalink
- 1) Idea is to accept the deal and move out being a pariah.
2) Have access to best of technologies. Finalising those deals would be faster.
3) 3 years later, go slow on Nuclear Power projects.
4) Bargain hard again.
If Pakistan can milk USA billions of dollars and use them for its advantage, why can't we?
RE:Need of the hour : Take advantage of the political willingness
by Hate Who divides on Jul 16, 2008 11:25 PM Permalink
Can you tell me How many times they supported India actively?????? you will get the answer zero ............ they are digging grave for us .......... and you want we to jump in that ......... not all are fools like you and congress -I
RE:Need of the hour : Take advantage of the political willingness
by CatchTwentyTwo on Jul 17, 2008 12:13 AM Permalink
Why do you want to think of it in terms of who is supporting and who is not? Why do you want to think of it in terms of who is digging a grave and who is not?
Why dont you just look at it as something that you will need or not? If you dont, does that mean that you want our scientists to go it alone in trying to work out all the problems that other developed countries have faced (chernobyl / 3- mile) with all the checks and balances that they have? Even if you want our scientists to go thru this process without any co-operation and in isolation from the world, even then, where do you want to get the source from, the fuel? Do you even understand what you are getting from this?
RE:Need of the hour : Take advantage of the political willingness
by prabhat mohanty on Jul 17, 2008 12:05 AM Permalink
- In this world only bright ones get the attention. Today if India is getting attention, then it's because of our economic clout.
Another foreigner who has suddenly realized he's an Indian. He understood that an easy way to make money is politics. Power hungry family who made a living by making voters poorer and poorer. Out of the 61 years, his gr8-grandpa ruled for 17 years, his grandma ruled for 15 years (including emergency), his dad ruled for 5 years and his mom (India's first super-PM-Made in Italy) ruled for 4.5 years. Indians should no longer trust in this family. 41.5 years of their RAJ. If you add Narsimha's rule as well it becomes 46.5. The reason for the problems in India is this FAMILY. They are responsible for India's debacle more than anyone else. BOYCOTT THIS FAMILY AND dynasty rule AND BRING NEW FACES IN THE PARLIAMENT.
RE:maa ke palloo mein chhup ja bachche
by Surabi Dilliwala on Jul 17, 2008 12:38 AM Permalink
I agree and her most trusted speech writer PV Narasimha Rao. Mainly because they did not take part in Nehru's Wine and Dine Club.
Your father was a decent man and I know he ushered in the computer and internet era and I sad when he was murdered; but a computer is not anything like an atomic reactor, although both are cutting edge technology. The power generated by these plants will be comparatively twice as expensive. There are major risks associated with atomic energy and there is also the unanswered question which people with children feel uneasy about, what will you do with the junked plants? I feel we are seeking America's friendship for the wrong reasons.
RE:Nuclear power versus computers, Mr. Rahul Gandhi?
by prabhat mohanty on Jul 16, 2008 11:13 PM Permalink
- You are almost presuming that the cost hydro and thermal are same.
The comrades are called upon to prove before People of India as to when they and their Party has been patriotic to this Nation.Communism has really wiped out from Russia,China and Chekslovekia and other countries.Existing Communist Nations have and are having capitalistic trends for the real benefits.Theories of Kalmarx have failed and become outdated,and all populations of all countries,are now in favour of private business and profiteerings.Communist countries have divorced communism as it stands rejected by their own people on whom it was imposed for the lack of their experience about it.In india these comarades have no true politics or political philosophy,except to think and preach ill about the USA.For this they have to oppose even rightest political steps taken with the Us,which may be even in the utter beneficial interest of this large nation,and that is the cause of opposing.I tell to you a famous proberv-"When a man degenerates,he becomes an animal,and when an animal degenerates he becomes a communist" Now these stupids want to play with the ultimate future progress of this nation.What trouble will Yeturi and others will have if this country becomes able to ensure about its energy requiremens for number of decades to come,but no,it appears they are being misguided by the camps internationally opposing USA and future well being of India,and as such people of this country whether of WB or Kerala must reject these antinational comarades in the forth comonig electing
