RE:GREATEST INDIAN PRIME MINISTER!!!!!!! ALL FOR THE NATION..ABOVE PARTY OR PETTY POLITICS..
by sibby mathews on Jul 16, 2008 11:08 PM Permalink
And yet the people of India are going to dump him and his party in the coming general elections, almost certainly consigning his name to oblivion !!! Oh, how excruciatingly pitiful ??
India has been lead by politicians ever since the India attained freedom. It is the first time India has been headed by a visionary and a leader. MMS has time and again proved his ability to take India into the next phase of revolutionary development. It was unfortunate for him that Subprime crisis happened during his tenure. If it would have been BJP in power, the same would have happened and they would have been at the receiving end from the public. If anyone remembers, everybody was talking about growth India was having before the subprime. Everybody was happy making money from stock market. But with changing times, the sentiment of people has changed for this capable person. Does anybody remembers any PM who has wipped his own minsiter for having such wasteful expenditure on foreign and national tours ? Does anybody remembers any PM who has asked his ministers to disclose their total incomes from all sources? Does anybody remember of a PM who instead of making false speeches and wasting his time in worthless tasks took all the pain in devoting his time in driving govt projects and making sure they meet their logical end ? Atleast I dont remember any ...
It is first time ever since I gained by conscious, I have seen India been led by a selfless and dedicated prime minsiter. The next generation will always curse us for dumping such a capable Prime minister and leaving the country in hands of politicians rather than leaders ...
RE:22nd July will decide whether we continue to be lead by capable leader
by Gopal on Jul 17, 2008 12:45 AM Permalink
We did surrender our sovereignty on the black day 18.7.2005 The manipulation behind this deal is to stop our effort to develop Thorium technology. By going with n-deal all our financial resources will be drained. We will not be in a position to give serious thought on Thorium. Remember stock of Uranium in the world is depleting fast, reaching the end-point by 2070. It is not far. The present projected target is 40000MW in the next 20-30 years. It is an unrealistic projection, in my opinion. There may be some thought of PREFABRICATED PLANTS for the plants to speed-up the commissioning. A disastrous thinking for the nation. Think of the radiation hazards connected with it. By that time Uranium will reach near its end point. Then what is the need of the deal? The nuclear deal is for getting Uranium. Then question arises-what is it for? The aim of the western powers is to take away our (60% of world deposit) Thorium at their dictated price. Our leaders should be intelligent enough to read these facts. All investments made for building Uranium based plants will be wasted. Should we waste such a huge astronomically large investments?
RE:22nd July will decide whether we continue to be lead by capable leader
by Sonu on Jul 17, 2008 11:05 PM Permalink
My dear friend, would you stop living since you know you would die in another 40-50 years ?
RE:22nd July will decide whether we continue to be lead by capable leader
by S Ramanathan on Jul 16, 2008 10:05 PM Permalink
MMS may be educated but he lacks spine. No visionary prime minister would submit to the whims of an outsider and be proud of it. Let him assert his will for the good of the people and we can see. Let him take a principled sympathetic stand on the sethusamudram issue and the Amarnath temple issue. I am sure he lacks what it takes to do it. If anything, he would ask the Hindus to give up everything and declare that other religious groups are more important and have more rights to resources (he has already done this). He is surely not secular (He may be halfway decent but not secular).
RE:RE:22nd July will decide whether we continue to be lead by capable leader
by Sonu on Jul 17, 2008 11:14 PM Permalink
My dear friend, MMS is one of the only few secular leaders of India and this is vindicated by his apolitical stand on religious issues. He has discouraged politics based on religion by not responding to such issues. It is only the act of BJP who has no other topic than religion to discuss. MMS has made every effort to discourage hot discussions around religion and encourage constructive debates around national and social development. This are traits of a good leader who know what is good of his people.
Also we as youth should support visionaries like MMS who is in turn supported by visionaries like Dr Kalam, Anil Kakodakar, Montek Singh Ahuluwalia and others. By doing this we will be safeguarding the nations future by preventing it being lead by corrupt and selfish politician. Lets come openly in support of MMS and his team to build a 21st century nation ...
Everyone else, except US and/or the NATO allies have to sign the CTBT or NNPT (nuclear non-proliferation treaty). I am the B(ush)OSS. Nuclear slavery (the intelectually deprived Congress party calls it Apartheid) has not yet been abolished! Hail US! US is worried that we have also started driving gas-guzzling SUVs and that the petrol prices will keep rising. The fact is, Uncle Bush converted the surplus cash left by Clinton into a cash starved nose-diving economy after pouring all the money into the Iraqi desert. If he's not insane, who is?
RE:It's always a ONE-SIDED deal!
by James Bond on Jul 16, 2008 10:31 PM Permalink
OK Mr. Varghese, what's your theory? Would be grateful, if you can spell out your views without coloring them with religion. Thanks very much.
This is the time for all the BJP members to think why BJP is opposing this deal. Mr.Advani doesn't like to UPA get the credit for this deal. He believe one day he will become the PM so that he can sign the deal to get the credit.
The whole Indians knows that India need this deal for the future of our country.
Even the UPA loose this confidence vote, UPA will come back to power with 2/3rd majority.
R Chidambaram Says that Only 2.86% of Total Installed Capacity is N Energy. And At 50% utilisation, That means only 1.43% of N Energy of Total Consumption. i.e., Just 21 Minutes per day.
Thus The Hurry for the Deal And Citing Dearth of N-Fuel is just a Bluff of the Con-gress Govt.
RE:RE:RE:RE:Why BJP oppose N-Deal?
by TheOneAndOnly on Jul 16, 2008 08:34 PM Permalink
R Chidambaram Says that Only 2.86% of Total Installed Capacity is N Energy. And At 50% utilisation, That means only 1.43% of N Energy of Total Consumption. i.e., Just 21 Minutes per day.
Thus The Hurry for the Deal And Citing Dearth of N-Fuel is just a Bluff of the Con-gress Govt.
RE:Why BJP oppose N-Deal?
by S Ramanathan on Jul 16, 2008 10:10 PM Permalink
I can understand the point about electricity. But I do not understand your enmity towards gobar gas. You mistrust it because it was developed by the Indians. Just to clarify... YOU DO NOT HAVE TO EAT THE GOBAR! Just like you do not have to have butane but just use the butane gas for cooking. Have you had food cooked with gobar gas? I would have Indian grown food cooked with gobar gas any day over the genetically modified fertilizer/insecticide laden tasteless vegetables cooked in butane gas.
Mr. MMS is an agent Khalistanis and other anti India forces by Think Pad on Jul 16, 2008 04:34 PM Permalink | Hide replies
Every body knows it very well that Manmohan Singh was the foreign agency mole in the Primw Ministers Office (PMO) during PV Narasimha Rao's Government. he is trying to achieve the final goal of capping the Indigenous Nuclear program of India, on behalf of USA and other Anti India forces, trying to tie India permanently to NPT indirectly. MMS knows very well that his time is up and after next election, he is history, since Congress has not even bothered to project him as PM.
So now it is for akali Dal to decide who r they in the eyes of the RSSBJP as the RSSBJP supporters dub all sikhs as Khalistanis and agent of antinational forces !So Prakash singh Badal has any brains ???? should revised his stand on NIssue and think twice before siding with RSSBJP ! See the Rediff Forum they only comment communally -specially RSSBJP supporters !O WHETHER NDEAL OR NOT THE ISSUE IS COMMUNAL AS EVEN ALL POLITICIANS R SAYING!SO DO AKALI DAL HAS ANY PRIDE LEFT IN THEM !THE QUESTION IS NOT OF NDEAL BUT OF EXPOSING THE REAL COMMUNAL MANUWADI PROBELMS !THE LEFT IS ALIGNING WITH BSP SO IS TRS !NOW WHEN MAYAWATI TOO SAY THAT IS AGAINST MUSLIMS IT IS TRUE !SOMNATH CHATTERJEE TOO A GREAT PARLIMINATRIAN has said that he does not want to vote along with bjp !forget about ndeal as that is as per rssbjkp supporters such as satayrthi that is trade treaty !the issue is comm
RE:Why RSSBJP supporters report for bause !I only qoute from their posts and analyse the facts !
by mahabodhi on Jul 16, 2008 08:21 PM Permalink
The issue for NDeal is for RSSBJP as all issues here in Rediff for most RSSBJP suppoters r communal leanings !So can akali Dal atleast now realize what RSSBJP thinks of the AkaliDal or any one connected with punjab !The time will prove that akali Dal of Praksh singh is the most foolish and antionational party as RSSBJP and its supporters say day in and day out !For NDeal or not the issue in India has now communal overtones !
If RSSBJP thionkpad can write his views so can others qoute from his posts !I am only analysing and as I said earlier my only intentions is to expose the true nature of these RSSBJP antimatioanl elements who abuse every one who is not supporting RSSBJP as antinational and traitor !Has they been given right to write the most communal posts and others can not even qoute and analyse their posts !
RE:RE:Why RSSBJP supporters report for bause !I only qoute from their posts and analyse the facts !
by mahabodhi on Jul 16, 2008 08:27 PM Permalink
To all RSSBJP supporters so they do think like thinkpad RSSBJP supporters !I only qouted that too make nalysis on the issue !All issues in rediff forum have nothing for RSSBJP supporters but communal leanings !And I have proved this again and again! The new third front with left support -r they for proletrian rule - led by BSP is the only alternative to form stable govt . for Proletrian rule !
RE:RE:RE:Why RSSBJP supporters report for bause !I only qoute from their posts and analyse the facts !
by mahabodhi on Jul 16, 2008 08:41 PM Permalink
@to all bigot kulak and corrupt RSSBJP supporters Read the Ideolgy of RSS if you do not know but I know that u know it and liked it but even then accept as yours theory of Ideology !Golwalkar’s views on Indian Muslims and Christians Golwalkar had a very negative attitude towards the minority religions of India, especially Islam and Christianity. He categorised them as, enemies, invaders, aliens and internal threats of the Hindu nation. According to him, the so-called minority religions are bound to become disruptive elements to the Hindu nation. Hindus are, therefore, at war at once with the Moslems on the one hand and British (who are Christians) on the other . And u may change ur vies to decive pors but now no more !So read about what he says of Lord Budhdha too!Golwalkar's accusations against Buddhism Golwalkar’s anti-other attitude was directed also against Buddhism. He calls Buddhism a religion of fanatics, enemies of the cultural values and nationalist traditions of India. They are anti-nationals who sided with the invaders. He says: “the Buddhist fanatics invited and helped the foreign aggressors who wore the mask of Buddhism. The Buddhist sect had turned a traitor to the mother society [Hindu society] and the mother religion [Hinduism]” . Buddhist influence had the baneful effect of effacing from the minds of the masses their tenacious adherence to their faith. It over individualised religion and the consequence was that the individual became more prominent tha
RE:RE:RE:RE:Why RSSBJP supporters report for bause !I only qoute from their posts and analyse the facts !
by mahabodhi on Jul 16, 2008 08:45 PM Permalink
Golwalkar's accusations against Buddhism Golwalkar’s anti-other attitude was directed also against Buddhism. He calls Buddhism a religion of fanatics, enemies of the cultural values and nationalist traditions of India. They are anti-nationals who sided with the invaders. He says: “the Buddhist fanatics invited and helped the foreign aggressors who wore the mask of Buddhism. The Buddhist sect had turned a traitor to the mother society [Hindu society] and the mother religion [Hinduism]” . Buddhist influence had the baneful effect of effacing from the minds of the masses their tenacious adherence to their faith. It over individualised religion and the consequence was that the individual became more prominent than the society and the Nation . For example, where the influence of Buddhism had disrupted the caste system, it fell an easy prey to the onslaught of Muslims . According to Golwalkar, Adi Sankara (8th century AD) was an incomparable philosopher and a unique organiser of Hindu religion. He fearlessly roamed on foot from one end of the country to the other, conquering people to the Hindu faith and rekindling the ebbing flame of ancient Hindu culture. His activities aroused a national consciousness and threw out the treacherous elements of Buddhism as a distinct sect . So now do not say ifs and buts when you are exposed but be staraight !You bigots only decive poors for centuries !Now the die is cast for Proletrian rule !ead opther messages too in this issue in this art
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Why RSSBJP supporters report for bause !I only qoute from their posts and analyse the facts !
by mahabodhi on Jul 16, 2008 08:47 PM Permalink
He fearlessly roamed on foot from one end of the country to the other, conquering people to the Hindu faith and rekindling the ebbing flame of ancient Hindu culture. His activities aroused a national consciousness and threw out the treacherous elements of Buddhism as a distinct sect . Read also Dr.Ambedkar and also Chamcha Age by Kanshi Ram for broader political vision !But why report for abuse when I simply qoute your RSSBJP thinkpad views and analysis it for getting to the bottom of the truth of RSSBJP psuche !
RE:Why RSSBJP supporters report for bause !I only qoute from their posts and analyse the facts !
by mahabodhi on Jul 16, 2008 09:37 PM Permalink
Akali dal must not forget that when they aligned with BSP in the past they were victorious allo if Akali Dal has any brains and selfrespect and have common sense to understand the RSSBJP manuwadi policy they must aligned with BSP and NDeal gets thru or not must dump NDA and form third fron along with left with BSP leading the front ! time will pove that whether akali Dal leaders have any brains or not ! No need to vote MMSon NDeal !but think of the future and aligned with left/BSP woith BSP leading the fron nationally !then and then only the guru Nanka's idea of WAND CHAKO or to share the wealth fo the nation equally with poor and allIndians will be realized !The BSP/left and various regional parties such as akali Dal of the NDA must come out of the grip of the kulak communal bigot RSSBJP and form third front to lead proletrian rule !
RE:Why RSSBJP supporters report for bause !I only qoute from their posts and analyse the facts !
by Gopal on Jul 17, 2008 01:10 AM Permalink
Hi Mahabodhy I read the whole post. I appreciate your feelings. The subject at the moment is centred around N-deal. In my opinion we should take decisions taking into account the interest of the country. It is the question of our sovereignty and independence. The political parties take stands on 'political grounds'. I mean they play number game. Let them take decision after studying the pros and cons of the N-deal. The manipulation behind this deal is to stop our effort to develop Thorium technology. We have Thorium deposit which would last for 300 years. The world Uranium deposit will only last till 2070. By the time we commission the plants built taking advantage of the deal (by 2040) the uranium deposit is reaching its end point. The cost Uranium will be beyond our reach then. The astronomically huge investments made will become a waste. It will make India bankrupt. Nuclear waste and the connected financial burden is another problem. Should we support this? Think as a NATIONALIST.
RE:Why RSSBJP supporters report for bause !I only qoute from their posts and analyse the facts !
by mahabodhi on Jul 17, 2008 09:36 AM Permalink
@Gopal when Left think as u say then they r antinational and traitor !And if u read the Satayrthi a RSSBJP spokeman others they say that it is trade treaty and !when Brijesh Mishra former advisor of RSSBJP says it is the best deal for India he is nationalist !And he was dealing for RSSBJP government for NDeal with america !So what is RSSBJP stand !Is it all about thorium plant devlopment ? Then why RSSBJP too now twist their own words and say they too want the NDeal with Renegoitaion!and on what grounds !They were as per reports already ready for NDEal with less opportinuities !The Atal Vajpayee even said on record that India will not go for NTests !But as u say that it is that america does not want India to Devlop Thorium nPlants!What is RSSBJP stand !And the question here is is not discussions on any relevant issue as RSSBJP members here r not for decent discussions but turning all issues for abusing Left and communalising the issue !And I only want to point that and prove my point !What ever about NDeal the issue for RSSBJP member is communal!Even RSSBJP Vice president says that America is against muslims !So when Behan Mayawati says that NDEal is against muslims then these kulaks who abused Mayawati recently including Rajnath singh RSSBJP President where were these members !And why report for abuse when I only qoute from the post of RSSBJP Thinkpad which he posted on 16 july ! So any one who does not support Manuwadi RSSBJP is antinational !Why RSSBJP Mishra for NDeal !
RE:RE:Why RSSBJP supporters report for bause !I only qoute from their posts and analyse the facts !
by mahabodhi on Jul 17, 2008 10:10 AM Permalink
@Gopal and one has to also think beyond this NDeal !As u say it is not for India's favour !So after the congresss led UPA goes off then what I want to propaget in the National Interst is that corrupt and kulak bigot parties which are dangerous and harmful to original native Indians be isolated and the parties whose Manifesto is Manusmirity be totally elimnieted and for this Left who is against the NDeal and has now aligned with BSP should form a third front including all Regional parties and also with left JMM ,akali Dal and many more !and I mentioned akali Dal who is aligned with RSSBJP and they must realize what the RSSBJP Thinkpad thinks of these akalis as the message goes !So a thrid fron with left support and BSP leading from front will opave a way forward for Proletrian rulke in India !And as u must hv read the staements of RSSBJP that they too want NDEal where as you claerly say that NDeal in any way (they were agreeing for even harmful terms -and Brijrsh Mishra RSSBJP man -says it is the deal so there is no ambugity on this issue vis-vis RSSBJP)and as u rightly say that it is political game -number game - is the conspiracy of the west to stop the India's devlopment of Thorium plant energy !So as Nationalist think beyond the NDeal and also beyond the 22nd July 2008 and form a Third Front with left -Which is totally in unison with ur idea of NDeal ) with BSP leading the Front for Proletrian rule !So if Left wants third front along with numbers and want to end the bigot
RE:RE:RE:Why RSSBJP supporters report for bause !I only qoute from their posts and analyse the facts !
by mahabodhi on Jul 17, 2008 10:11 AM Permalink
!So as Nationalist think beyond the NDeal and also beyond the 22nd July 2008 and form a Third Front with left -Which is totally in unison with ur idea of NDeal ) with BSP leading the Front for Proletrian rule !So if Left wants third front along with numbers and want to end the bigots such as RSSBJP and congress-Which is surrogate mother of RSSBJP- then the only practical thing is to make third front with left who has numbers in WBengal/Kerala /Tripura and has also All India presence and with Regional parties and led by BSP which is emerging as the Major party and has defeated the Bigots /corrupt RSSBJP and Congress in the UP and has confirmed and committed vote bank which is must for a successful Third front !It is time that congress which is pursuing the NDeal started by RSSBJP and which as per younis against the national Interst should be scrapped and also the antinational partyies such RSSBJP which wanted this deal and congress which is pursuing the NDeal be isolated and the third Fron with left and led by BSP -be the winning combibitnation -and it has potential and as you say we should devlop our Thorium energy for next 300 years !that's the Nationalist way !so dump the antinational bigot RSSBJP which started the NDeal talks a was ready for the far less as RSSBJP Brijresh sharma confirms and the congress which also pursuing the NDeal thoughnthey r saying that thier NDeal is with better terms but as u say is not so and is the consipoiracy of the West to stop India's Thor
RE:RE:RE:RE:Why RSSBJP supporters report for bause !I only qoute from their posts and analyse the facts !
by mahabodhi on Jul 17, 2008 10:12 AM Permalink
!It is time that congress which is pursuing the NDeal started by RSSBJP and which as per younis against the national Interst should be scrapped and also the antinational partyies such RSSBJP which wanted this deal and congress which is pursuing the NDeal be isolated and the third Fron with left and led by BSP -be the winning combibitnation -and it has potential and as you say we should devlop our Thorium energy for next 300 years !that's the Nationalist way !so dump the antinational bigot RSSBJP which started the NDeal talks a was ready for the far less as RSSBJP Brijresh sharma confirms and the congress which also pursuing the NDeal thoughnthey r saying that thier NDeal is with better terms but as u say is not so and is the consipoiracy of the West to stop India's Thorium engy programmes !So in the national interst as u write the corrupt bigot and kulak parties such RSSBJP and congress be called antinational and traitor and let the third Front with left anddled by BSP emerges as winning combination !and this third fron wityh left and led by BSP has potential to have the winning combination
hey evry1..bjp has definetly got its stand clear..we dont want to pass on rights of safeguarding our nation to US..the deal proibits us from conducting any nuclear test in future..and considering who r our neighbours,its a serious concern. why doesnt this pseudo secular aam junta govt answer this quetion...IF BJP IS FALSELY CLAIMING ABT PROHIBITION WHY DOESNT GOVERNMENT CLEARLY DECLARE THEIR IS NO SUCH CLAUSE..this government is full of opportunistic ppl incldng left..and dont forget bjp has supported deal apart from this clause..
Nice ...impressive...excellent....below all messeges are very informative...shows how intelligent and prudent people we have here...great...hmmm...remarkable...true indeeed....very well said all...
RE:GREY MATTER
by soorma on Jul 16, 2008 08:12 PM Permalink
We dont want nuke deal as it binds us to act with responsibility. We want a clause in the agreement where we are allowed to have irresponbile behaviour. We should be allowed to have AQ khan type labs. We shall be allowed to proliferate and blackmail other nations. We shall be allowed to test nuke bombs at any time... We dont want energy. We want to do lot of crazy things with nukes... This deal is not good...
We dont want nuke deal as it binds us to act with responsibility. We want a clause in the agreement where we are allowed to have irresponbile behaviour. We should be allowed to have AQ khan type labs. We shall be allowed to proliferate and blackmail other nations. We shall be allowed to test nuke bombs at any time... We dont want energy. We want to do lot of crazy things with nukes... This deal is not good...
The facts... (1) We do not have oil or natural gas resourses that can fullfil our energy needs. (2)We denpend on other countries for Oil and natural gas (3)Our hydel power generation are at the treshold (4)We are not going to have a hike in receiving rainfall (4)We need the area of 4 biggest states in india to put solar panel to generate power from solar energy which could satisfy our energy need. (5)We will never able to generate energy from from wind to our satisfactory level (6) We do not have any other renewable sources (7) The only alternative is nuclear energy.
India is one of the fastest growing economy and our energy demands are increasing by 20% every year. So we should take immediate action to generate energy for our future needs. We need a vision and plan accordingly. Otherwise soon we will face problems regarding energy demand and the economy will crash. Please take action.
Well I am back after a thought. The answer lies in alternate fuel. We should focus on getting alternate enrgy from WindMill energy (South India on both the coastal areas), Solar Panels (Entire Village areas to small consumption areas), HydroElectricity (Central and North India) India should have a proper new high efficient grid where we should be able to switch from any of the grids power source across India.
Finally we should start our own nuclear fuel making technology. We don't need to buy reactor but just the fuel rods so that we can churn out electricity from own made reactor.
All entrepreneur please get in action. Mother India needs you.
