congratulations rediff for putting up good advertisement for the 'deal' for last 2-3 weeks!
Really looks suspicious when you guys keep posting articles as "a good deal" "a landmark deal" "deal explained" to support the deal - without ever mentioning about the poor way in which the upa has handled this 'deal' and also avoiding any mention of Hyde Act et al.
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by Gazanfar Z Azmi on Jul 17, 2008 09:46 AM Permalink
Adguruji, As per u rediff keep posting the Ad for the govt...to whom...most of the bloggers here are Khakhi Chaddis.
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by ramu on Jul 17, 2008 10:26 AM Permalink
And rest are brainless.They keep their brain in mosques and go to see on friday only.They are driven by mob rule
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by adguru on Jul 17, 2008 10:16 AM Permalink
but there are ppl like you and me who don't know anything about the 'deal' and mostly have doubts....
Ideally media should be impartial and put on articles explaining both sides - I am really getting sick of these one sided articles (read advertisement) - most of the media today seems against BJP ...
This deal is not good for India at all .I hope these fools at the centre will have the foresight to not go ahead with this disaster of a deal. US wants to push this deal (especially Bush) because, they understand the non viability of the nuclear power as a source in the future. They are actively engaged currently in fullfledged Alternative energy research (solar, wind and bio) as they see where the future lies. And the decrepit and soon to be outdated nuclear technology (which is crude, eco unfriendly and dangerous, as well as lower yeilds and high expense) is to be discarded and sold to developing country like India. But they can do this only while there is still a good resale value for this which won't be for too long, which they realize as developing countries are fast catching up and hence the push to get this bill ratified. As I see it, only china and Communists ( and now BJP which is ofcourse doing it only to go against congress) are the real friend of the poor and common folk of India. Think calmly and in a detached manner free from your own selfish interests and benefits that this deal might bring you personally or your immediate family in US for just a few more years left for you to live in this world and that too as miserable third class citizens. You see, this deal is not about ship abandoning IT coolies hiding in foreign burrows but this is about the plight,hopes and aspirations of the poor, rural and common folk of my beloved motherland - Whom you have forgotten.
RE:Nuclear deal as I see it
by All Right on Jul 17, 2008 09:59 AM Permalink
This deal is not good for India at all? So you made a statement. Have you even read the text of the 1-2-3 Agreement? If so, what clauses concern you?
I am sure knickerwallahs just take cues from BJP spokesmen - do not read the text of the agreement.
RE:Nuclear deal as I see it
by starlee on Jul 17, 2008 10:14 AM Permalink
To everyone know the facts before talking trash like Jay .
Do u guys know
1 .france's Électricité de France (EDF) country's main electricity generation and distribution company — manages the country's 59 nuclear power plants
2 。 As of 2004, these plants produce 99.8% of both EDF's and France's power production (of which much is exported)
3 。France is the world's largest net exporter of electric power, exporting 18% of its total production (about 100 TWh) to Italy, the Netherlands, Britain, and Germany, and its electricity cost is among the lowest in Europe.
SO JAY TELL ME IN WHICH WAY NUCLEAR POWER IS NON-VIABLE ?? if u're talking about the cost factor yeah it's expensive but not once we start mass production and u tell which project whatever it nature maybe doesnt require huge capital ?? u Dont want the nuclear deal to go through but u dont mind we buyin oil to produce electricity for 140$/Barrel transpotation fee ?? its gonna hit 150/Barrel soon . where's the logic in it ? know the facts the speak and if havce no clue about whats it about try to learn about it then speak .And if u're china-biased y dont u go there and live ? noone wants u here to be frank ..and About hopes and aspirations of poor in which way their hopes and aspirations would be affected if the nuclear deal go through ? Stop acting like a messiah of poor . Hey my friend i think its u who need start thinking in a detached manner .
Coming around by Mr. Varadarajan is a great step for national consensus. This U-turn for The Hindu group could not have come easy. His caveat on prudential strategy is perhaps for internal audiance, or may be clean break is so emotionally taxing!
Once legality is in place, specific implementations would be competitive on all aspects of the deal and application of thought would be of sophisticated order. Makes sense for India to let all compete on level playing ground.
Presently, we need to express our gratitude to US negotiators for taking responsibility to be enablers of the deal on behalf of India.
RE:Let us cross the bridge first.
by teen paise on Jul 17, 2008 06:45 AM Permalink
Road blocks, deliberate or otherwise, which seek India to compromise on a non-reciprocal basis can not be ruled out. If that happens, hopefully India would not be found wanting to enforce effective counter measures for abrogation of the N-deal. Let us not forget history as yo how US had opened up Japan over a century earlier.
RE:Let us cross the bridge first.
by teen paise on Jul 17, 2008 06:56 AM Permalink
As Prez Kalam had said in this context, strengh earns respect. Let us proceed with high IQ and good EQ.
RE:Let us cross the bridge first.
by teen paise on Jul 17, 2008 06:47 AM Permalink
Internal national unity, despite grave provocation is therefore absolute necessary to be able to handle the fallouts of failure, if any, in the N-deal.
'Even if the right to withdraw facilities from safeguards were stated explicitly and upfront, as some have suggested India should have insisted on, the level of international opposition as and when India were to invoke that right would hardly be less strident.' I don't agree with this opinion. The opposition to India would have been much weaker if the provisons were explicit. Why were provisions not put explicitly in the agreement?
Sonia was rejected as PM for the reason that (not being a Citizen) she may get access to all the National secrets. With the pretext of this deal, she may be prying on many secrets that even other MPs are deprived of. If someone cannot be a PM they cannot be a MP either. BJP, its time for you to stop dreaming about your next elections. You have enough money to buy some more MPs.
RE:Does Sonia has the previlage to all the secrets of PM?
by Bhagwat on Jul 17, 2008 09:34 AM Permalink
SONIA IS AS BETTER AS INDIRA JEE WAS>For india.No other politician except ATALBIHARI JEE is in compare.
RE:Stop MMSingh and CO. direct and open CIA-agent of Bush, before 18th July.
by Bhagwat on Jul 17, 2008 09:31 AM Permalink
IF MANMOHAN SINGH IS AS CIA AGENT THAN WHO IS SAFE GUARD OF INDIA< ARE U GENTLEMAN>PL. HONOUR THE HONESTY AND RELIABILITY OF SOME ONE.
RE:Stop MMSingh and CO. direct and open CIA-agent of Bush, before 18th July.
by gently kumar on Jul 17, 2008 10:04 AM Permalink
Dear Friends, Forget politics what are our so called SCIENTISTS doing?We are having uraanium rich mineral abundantly in India and I hope that we are exporting also. What are IITians doing? We are claiming that our technology and science is as advance as other front runners.Why coudnt we develope indegeneous technology for enrichment of Uranium so far?Why are we begging other nations?Isnt shame to our so called SCIENTISTS and IITians.NA LAYAK IITians.Only they are interested in getting higher salaries in foreign countries. JAI HIND
RE:Stop MMSingh and CO. direct and open CIA-agent of Bush, before 18th July.
by All Right on Jul 17, 2008 10:02 AM Permalink
Usamanta is a rabid knickerwallah. They are totally bias and so totally illogical. He needs help so ignore him
This N-Deal is only about the Political Pressure to Sell off Indian Sovereignity to the Western World.
A lot of Projects are initiated to Mine Indian Uranium And All of them are destined to deliver by 2009 or 2010.
Any Mining will not take more than 1.5yrs to start production.
This Con-gress wants to push this deal And Then Say, But for this Deal, we would have had NO Uranium.
We Are abt to get Self-Sufficiency by 2010. And All Western Countries are eager to Mine Uranium from Indian Mines. May be, We even have a lot more Uranium Reserves than publicised.
RE:Just another Year
by All Right on Jul 17, 2008 10:05 AM Permalink
India has insignificant reserves of uranium. This is based on data published in international journals. If Congress is pulling a fast one, wouldn't the NDA government set the record straight.
RE:Just another Year
by manoj kumar sinha on Jul 16, 2008 07:35 PM Permalink
I agree. After Petroleum products west will look towards Uranium. We should be very carefull for this. They are Suvidha Bhogi Baniya community.
RE:Just another Year
by starlee on Jul 17, 2008 09:58 AM Permalink
hey onenonly u're right India have more uranium reserves but whereever we've deposits our dear environmentalists and the locals of respected areas are protesting against mining it ..tell me what can any government can do against these mal-informed idiots . sitting in ur chair and barking is easy my friend .
RE:Just another Year
by Mahendra Patel on Jul 17, 2008 10:24 AM Permalink
You can buy them out or Put them in JAIL choice is OURS- as a FUNCTIONING WISE NATION_ ON BASIS OF NATIONS POWER SECURITY.
The Communist are in efforts to buy MPs in its favour with money provided by the Chinese Goverment to vote against the confidence motion on July 21.22. One of their party leader himself said an Mp cost Rs 25 crore though he said in accusing manner. But they have a lot of Chinese Money to by just not MPs but even small political parties.
RE:How much Yuwan cost one MP
by Guest on Jul 17, 2008 09:50 AM Permalink
I DO NOT AGREE.ONE SHOULD LOOK IN TO THE DEAL IN TRUE PROSPECTIVE.A NATION SO LAZY,WHICH CAN NOT DEVELOP OWN MOTOCYCLES AND DREAMS TO BECOME SUPER POWER.WHAT CONGRESS HAS GIVEN TO US.CORRUPTION AT ALL LEVELS.CASTE BASED SOCIETY,IGNORING THE MERIT.OUR SYSTEM HAS NOT BEEN DEVELOPED TO HARNESS THE POTENTIAL OFMERITORIUS PERSONS.WHAT IS THE QUALIFICATION OF SONIA GANDHI.CONGRESS IS DEVOID OF SELFLESS LEADERS.CORRUPTION IN DEFENCE DEALS.PEOPLE FORGET EASILY THE POOR PERFORMANCE ON ECONOMIC FRONT.ONLY RICH HAVE BECOME RICH.THEY DO NOT PAY DUTY FOR IMPORTED AEROPLANES.P.M. HAS TIME TO MEET AMBANI'S BUT NO TIME TO SOLVE THE PROBLEMS OF FOOD GROWERSWAKE UP NDIANS.DON'T BE SLAVE TO AMERICAN GOODS.WORK HARD.DEVELOP OWN TORIUM BASED REACTORS.UNCLE SAM HAS NOT SPARED ANY BODY IN THE PAST.AMERICA IS THE MOST SELFISH NATION IN THE WORLD.THEY ARE RICH BECAUSE OF OTHERS.DISCARD THE DEAL.REMEMBER ENRON DABHOL POWER PROJECT IN MAHARASHTRA.HOW MUCH WAS THE KICK BACKS.WHAT IS THE PRICE OF PER UNIT OF POWER.EUROPE STOPPED FUTURE NUCLEAR POWER PLANT CONSTRUCTION.DEVELOP SOLAR,WIND AND HYDRAULIC ENERGY.
