Our dear PM MMS is pushing india into the trap laid by the US. Nuke deal will be a big strategic blunder by india. MMS is hell bent on getting the deal of such huge magnitude and implications signed even though there is no national consensus on it. This deal will have huge implications for our countryies strategic interests as well as foreign policy...I wish this govt never comes to power for next 50 years...MMS has lost his mind..he shld be checked into a mental asylum...
RE:PM is betraying the nation
by Bonaventure on Jul 15, 2008 12:28 PM Permalink
..and the Kandahar fiasco ..(LK Advani was in hibernation and not an iota of informaton when Jaswant Singh was escorting his 'terrorist brothers' to Pakistan)
RE:PM is betraying the nation
by narayan halder on Jul 15, 2008 12:27 PM Permalink
MMS and Chidambaram economic activity : Growth of inflation at 11.89%
RE:RE:PM is betraying the nation
by Bonaventure on Jul 15, 2008 12:33 PM Permalink
My friend.. inflation will jump to 15%... the world is reeling under the inflation due to world recession.
Like NDTV quoted the other day, 'BJP is lucky they are not in power to handle inflation with Crude Prices touching $148'
During BJPs governance Oil Prices were US$42 and inflation has jumped to 9.6%
RE:PM is betraying the nation
by Guest on Jul 15, 2008 12:42 PM Permalink
dear silly,.infation is in all country.......we r lucky that this infation wd be more 50% if BJP in goverment.
RE:PM is betraying the nation
by nimit patel on Jul 15, 2008 12:30 PM Permalink
U are forgetting one thing... 9% growth started after 2004 and one thing when u create a infrastructure and policy it will take 3-4 yrs to reach at 9% growth.. from 1999 to 2004 bajpai govt done really good changes that what we are started to reap from 2004,, u think if this govt made 9% growth then they still can reduce inglation in 1 yr.. bvut they cant
they had not done a single good work in last 4 yrs and thats why we are failing this way
from 2006 people are telling crude will go to 200 dollar.. but what this people done in last 2 yrs ?? nothing..
u can go for solar energy and tidel energy and wind energy india is too big and getting sun light at least 8 hours for 300 days in a year..
if u use 10 sw feet solar penal it will give u 4 unit of electricity per day for next ten yr and that cost u 70000 rs... now when this govt is waiving loan of 70000 cr u can see this money can give 1 cr solar penals which will give electricity to 1 cr fmaily and that means 6 cr people ///
wiothout a penny invt for next 10 yrs.. nuclear plant cost will be 25 lack crore in next 10 yrs... now u calculate from above data we really want nuclear power...
europe and USA is normally getting jsut 3-4 hoiurs sun ligh and that too jsut 20 degree so they need nuclear power.. but in india we are getting avg 35 degree for 8 hrs ..
RE:RE:PM is betraying the nation
by subash bose on Jul 15, 2008 01:58 PM Permalink
Very Good. Well designed excuse what BJP would not be able to do in the next tenure, if they are voted to power.
So far I have seen excuse for what they are no doing now. First time I am seeing an excuse for what BJP will not do in the next tenure.
Beautiful. Keep it up.
May be Arun Jaitely would not have conceptualized this. Inform him. He will pay you for a responsible consulting.
RE:PM is betraying the nation
by Arvind Khurana on Jul 15, 2008 12:30 PM Permalink
After 50 years you shall have Govt blessed by Rahul Baba's firnagi wife as Super PM.
RE:PM is betraying the nation
by Sahadevan KK on Jul 15, 2008 12:46 PM Permalink
Left was fighting for people's requirements for last 4 years. Congress forgot it. Congress also recognised that if some fundamentalists are with them, they can rule another 600 years!!
RE:PM is betraying the nation
by thebedazzled on Jul 15, 2008 12:29 PM Permalink
Talking about national consensus? Where in India? Impossible. Never happened and will not happen. Even during independence struggle and the war of 1962, we didnt have consensus and everyone knows the same opposers are active today. If 62 was justified and 47 was justified, 2008 deal is also justified.100% Go read the mammoth text of the IAEA draft and u wud learn the basics. dont talk without reading it.
One who shows his caliber by work does not need to speak aloud. Mr Singh is an example.
Mr Singh has proved that he thinks for the nation first. He initiated the economic reforms during Narasimha Rao's ministry, and now everybody is able to see the fruit. Those who are opposing Mr Singh also have actually got jobs in companies which came to India due to the economic reforms made by Dr Singh.
Can you show me Advani's contribution except Rath yatra? So, you decide, who is better. A fumbling Advani and a silent Singh.
RE:Manmohan Singh VS L K Advani
by Raju Mavila on Jul 15, 2008 12:27 PM Permalink
What is the fruit you are talking about? the high inflation? rising prices of essential commodities? scarcity of food grains? let the government to concentrate on such core issues. I assume the fruit you are talking about is probably the Ambanis have become one of the richets in the world, and we have MPs, who are still behind bars, but represent the people in the house of parliament!!
RE:Manmohan Singh VS L K Advani
by amarnath palavalli on Jul 15, 2008 12:31 PM Permalink
We agree with this. Next elections I vote based on inflation and other probelms and not on nuclear deal.
The truth about this deal is that we will get 5% of our energy needs by 2020. Do you people think this deal worth it for 5%.
RE:Manmohan Singh VS L K Advani
by subash bose on Jul 15, 2008 01:49 PM Permalink
Instead of your tending to speak about inflation, why dont you sit down in your chemistry lab and find a cost effective alternate to crude oil and all its derivatives. Then the inflation will come down.
RE:Manmohan Singh VS L K Advani
by nimit patel on Jul 15, 2008 12:35 PM Permalink
then why manmohan was quite till 2008??? last yr of election??
why they not make sugar company approve for ethenol production..
crude is at 150 dollar and inflation is at 12% u know.. this will kill country in jsut 2 yrs if good policy decision no made...
why govt is not giving 50% subsidy on electric two wheler.. or at least they can give that expence deduction in income tax..
are yaar.. pl understand situation.. nuclear enegry contract will signed in 2010 and electricity we will get in around 2020...
but if crude cross 200 dollar marke in 2-3 yrs indian economy will finish.. u know industry is now getting loss .. transportation cost increased.. gas price increased.. and profit are going down.. they will oncrease price and inflation will go on..
india should use natural resources because we had it.. we had 3000 km long sea cost.. we had many bay in sea wher we can make tidel enegry .. denmak had 500 km sea cost but still getting 45% enegry through tidel plant..
and ya this will good for environment and no fuel required for it... also read my above comment
RE:Manmohan Singh VS L K Advani
by Arvind Khurana on Jul 15, 2008 12:34 PM Permalink
I agree, Manmohan thinks of Nation. By nation I am sure you mean US and swears by God and that is Sonia. Without these helps he would not have dreamt to become a PM of any country.
India being sovereign country should not take decision under pressure from Chinese agents. Its good that left parties have withdrawn support. Now PM can take independent decisions without influence from China
RE:RE:decison
by Arvind Khurana on Jul 15, 2008 12:36 PM Permalink
Yes he can take independent decisions, Independent of Nation called India and its people.
The way this govt. is pushing hard it is evident that there are megabucks for the party to fight the next elections. What this stupid sardar is trying to convince 100 crore Indians is that nuclear energy is the only solution to India's power crisis. Also if we don't ally with US, we are doomed. Did you not forget Chernobyl or for that matter our own Bhopal Tragedy. Nuclear energy is hazardous as well as expensive (May be Rs. 50 per unit going by the latest inflation stds). There is also no way we can ever dispose the radioactive waste that is left over. Why isn't our govt not pursuing tidal energy or solar energy or wind energy. These modes are non polluting, non hazardous and perpetual. Also several unemployed youth can get a means of income. Do not get swayed by what this sardar says. Each and every Indian must oppose this Nuclear Deal.
RE:Nuclear Deal
by bishnu sen on Jul 15, 2008 12:41 PM Permalink
The nonconventional sources of energy like solar tidal etc can giveus a miniscule amount of our total energy need, much less than 55 even if we utilize them fully. The energy that can be derived from Thorium/Uranium breeder reactor will give us a perpetual supply of energy at minimum cost, once the teething troubles are sorted out, which our Scientists are capable of doing.When petroleum, gas and coal will be exhausted in the near future, then the energy supplied from the breeder reactors, which require Thorium,which we already have and Uranium which we have to import through IAEA agencies will be the only solution. We have to be prepared for that , before the time runs out. Those who say we have sufficient Uranium are not aware of facts. bishnu sen
France produces 430 Billion kWatt of power from nuclear power plant. Has there been any health issues?
A knife can also cut you, if you do not know how to use it. And if you use properly, you can work with it in kitchen. If you use un-appropriately, you can kill somebody.
RE:Nuclear Deal
by All Right on Jul 15, 2008 12:27 PM Permalink
You maybe one of the minute minorities both in the country and internationally that consider MMS as stupid.
I suppose you will vote for Senile Advani instead.
RE:no foreign influence
by Sahadevan KK on Jul 15, 2008 12:27 PM Permalink
What our PM vomit and eat again and again...
The clause on "Dispute Agreement" in our 123 merely says: "If any disagreement between the parties [India and the US] arises US will be negotiated and settled." This is an amazing blunder of the part of our negotiators of the 123 for which will pay a very high price in future. -- Ashok Parthasarathi, Scicence Adviser to former PM Indira Gandhi. (Hindu, 15.07.2008)
RE:no foreign influence
by Pradeep Kumar R on Jul 15, 2008 12:45 PM Permalink
'' The mistake that the enemies of the deal in India and the US are making is to seek satisfaction over their own wish list in the safeguards agreement. The negotiators have made sure that the safeguards agreement does not veer from the objectives of the nuclear deal. If anything, the Indian negotiators have ensured that the agreement does not impose new obligations on India. ''
T P Sreenivasan, a former member of the Indian Foreign Service, was India's ambassador to the United Nations, Vienna, and governor for India, International Atomic Energy Agency, Vienna.
Forget BJP and Left and politics. If the deal is so helpful to India, why tell lies in the parliament? Why not be open and truthful to people of India from day one? Why keep away truth from the people, while it is available in the net? May be PM and congress thinks, Indians are not smart enough yet to understand their motives.
RE:Why secrecy, subterfuge and un-truths??
by All Right on Jul 15, 2008 12:23 PM Permalink
It is not only barking dogs - the Left and BJP who are opposing the deal.
There is a huge and very powerful lobby - the non-profileration activists - who are lobbying and attacking the deal.
So the government though transparent at times had to take a call on when to make documents public.
But despite it, the bottom-line is whether the text of the agreement is beneficial to the country? The consensus is that it is. The Left and BJP therefore do not attack the text. But rakes up procedural deficiencies like the one you raised.
First time PM can ask for endorsement from people directly. So far he had to get endorsement from Chinese agents on whose support the government was existing.
RE:Strong Decision
by Anubhav Lal on Jul 15, 2008 12:10 PM Permalink
Its good that left parties have withdrawn support. Now PM can take independent decisions without pressure or indirect influence of China
Mr. Prime Minister, don't get frightened. Take a bold decision and go ahead. Nothing will happen worse than the present situation. I presume, the whole citizen of India will endorse it. Do or die!
RE:N-Energy
by Job KK on Jul 15, 2008 12:33 PM Permalink
Mr.Ranjith, Mr.Manmohan, Mr.Sahadevan - right. Mr.Doctor, Mr.Teacher, Mr. Driver, Mr.Supervisor - is it right?
RE:N-Energy
by Sahadevan KK on Jul 15, 2008 12:29 PM Permalink
What our PM vomit and eat again and again...
The clause on "Dispute Agreement" in our 123 merely says: "If any disagreement between the parties [India and the US] arises US will be negotiated and settled." This is an amazing blunder of the part of our negotiators of the 123 for which will pay a very high price in future. -- Ashok Parthasarathi, Scicence Adviser to former PM Indira Gandhi. (Hindu, 15.07.2008)
RE:N-Energy
by Pradeep Kumar R on Jul 15, 2008 12:46 PM Permalink
'' The mistake that the enemies of the deal in India and the US are making is to seek satisfaction over their own wish list in the safeguards agreement. The negotiators have made sure that the safeguards agreement does not veer from the objectives of the nuclear deal. If anything, the Indian negotiators have ensured that the agreement does not impose new obligations on India.''
T P Sreenivasan, a former member of the Indian Foreign Service, was India's ambassador to the United Nations, Vienna, and governor for India, International Atomic Energy Agency, Vienna.
