Anyone will find the agreement good for India in the first instance. There are lot of serious implications associated with the agreement, which will literally put India in hands tied situation. First of all, 123 agreement does not recognise India as a nuclear weapon state, and hence all the special privilages enjoyed by other nuclear states will be denied to India. This is the crux of bone of contention. All the five nuclear power states have the freedom to possess nuclear weapons as well as to develop/research further. As per 123, US can withdraw from agreement and take back the fuel and technology at any time. In future, if India conducts any nuclear test, surely they will stop fuel supply and force other contries to do the same. We already had the experience in case of Tarapur nuclear plant. Not only nuclear test, if US feels India does not align with their world politics, they can do the same and they will do the same. In such India will clearly be the loser after spending billions of dollars for nuclear plants and the country's dependance on nuclear energy. It essentially means, India can never have nuclear weapons as well as the right to have it, should the situation demands. We are literally have our hands tied. That is the reason all nuclear states, including China, whole heartedly supports the agreement. Without having right to have say on our own security matters, we cannot become super power at all, though traitor MMS and congress say the opposite.
RE:Careful!!!
by Patriotman on Jul 11, 2008 11:52 PM Permalink
There is no explicit mention in 123/safe guard agreement by which one can think of this serious and critical implications and that is where most of the common people are lost. This is what exactly Bush administration projects to US congress and senate that he finally tamed India, who is non-signatory of onesided, discriminative NPT. Just because Commies are opposing, it does not mean, it is good for India. Hence the deal is cleary against our national intrest. The question here is, whether we should go for nuclear stuff from US, mainly, by giving up our right of self determination on our security matters, or not. There are hell lot of other hidden implications related to our nuclear reasearch as well
RE:Careful!!!
by Hate Who divides on Jul 12, 2008 12:02 AM Permalink
You are right , even the intenational experts says that agreement text is itentionaly kept vague ......... so that to make room for change according to their national law ........this MMS and his follower falled in trap ..............even though incident with tarapur reactor is still fresh in every ones mind
See ARTICLE 103 of safeguards agreement. Even for minor non-compliance from part of India, IAEA can report to Security Council to take military action against India. Article 103 given below.
"103. If the Board determines in accordance with Article XII.C of the Statute of the Agency that there has been any non-compliance by India with this Agreement, the Board shall call upon India to remedy such non-compliance forthwith, and shall make such reports as it deems appropriate. In the event of failure by India to take full remedial action within a reasonable time, the Board may take any other measures provided for in Article XII.C of the Statute."
“To make such reports as it deems fit” - is the UN language for saying "report for military action to security council".
This article 103 must be corrected to the effect that in case of non-compliance, IAEA can decide to stop or reduce further supply of nuclear material for a definite or indefinite term and the decision to be reviewed annually by IAEA.
Why? We know last year IAEA nearly recommended military action against Iran, It is a political body and if in future Indo US relation becomes bad, US can do this kind of things.
Saddam was once best friend of US (like India now) and finally US captured Saddam and was hanged “Live Telecast”. So relations can go sour anytime and we must be careful.
INDIA please change article 103 to avoid risking Security Council decison for military action against India.
RE:Agreement not safe
by Joy Abraham on Jul 11, 2008 11:52 PM Permalink
If you have a point or arguement, display whatever supporting material is needed and make your argument. Dont expect others to supply you with reference material.
RE:RE:Agreement not safe
by Goutam Sen on Jul 12, 2008 03:22 PM Permalink
Abe salle, KAlam jab bola tha, tab usko sab rule pata nahi tha, Ab jake puch--how about the article 103.. Salle andhe.. Kuch to rule pad.then comment kar...
RE:Agreement not safe
by Joy Abraham on Jul 11, 2008 11:47 PM Permalink
Do you mean everyone else in this country except one Kalam should close their mouth? Is Kalam the dictator of India?
RE:Agreement not safe
by Goutam Sen on Jul 12, 2008 03:20 PM Permalink
Abe salle, KAlam jab bola tha, tab usko sab rule pata nahi tha, Ab jake puch--how about the article 103.. Salle andhe.. Kuch to rule pad.then comment kar...
RE:Agreement not safe
by AK on Jul 12, 2008 12:02 AM Permalink
You can not equate India with Iran & Iraq. India is a responsible democratic nuclear power. Both Iraq & Iran are extremist muslim states without nuclear weapons.
RE:Agreement not safe
by Hate Who divides on Jul 12, 2008 12:09 AM Permalink
thats why we are always losing land to neighbour in war ................... you want to make Responsible or Coward ............its always due to ill politics of congress we lost land ............then also you want we support to congreess .........they even want to release afzal guru ............we are not mentally retardedlike to support this minority and incompetent congress
RE:Agreement not safe
by Ha ha hi hi on Jul 11, 2008 11:50 PM Permalink
WE r not Iran!!! we r India.. we can maul USA if need arises.. but N-Deal is must to sustain Power Crisis or be ready to face Blackout
RE:RE:Agreement not safe
by Joy Abraham on Jul 11, 2008 11:54 PM Permalink
How can you maul USA? India has no power even to scratch the surface of USA. Go for treaties with equals, you can do something if they misbehave. USA defines the law , so you will be helpless if you have a difference of opinion with USA anytime in future.
RE:RE:Agreement not safe
by Goutam Sen on Jul 12, 2008 03:25 PM Permalink
Abe Ha ha hi hi, Tere bap ne koi naam nahi diya tha kya. Salle tu to asli pakis.. Hiding your name..
