RE:INDIAN SCIENTISTS ALL OVER WORLD SUPPORTS N-DEAL
by Vikas on Jul 11, 2008 12:53 PM Permalink
U mean BJP is winning all state elections and spreading all over India
RE:INDIAN SCIENTISTS ALL OVER WORLD SUPPORTS N-DEAL
by Jitendra Kumar on Jul 11, 2008 12:58 PM Permalink
Your expectation are higher side. It took 60 years to reach them to few states.
none is indespensible -coz of craze for power the game started------------------ but the nuclear science says its good.r scientists r under pressure by UPA .no indian scentists in USA EUROPE TOO SAY ITS GOOD FOR ECONOMY,THEN-----------
If BJP has any analytical mind , they should GRAB this opportunity and TURN this tide in their favour.They hv to support the congress on N-deal.They should ask 4 support votes NOT the no-confidence motion against congress at this juncture .After this deal is pushed , say by 15th August they can ask Congress to prove the majority in the house.With this they can achieve following 1)Project themself as a Nationalist/Partiatic Party. 2)Make congress look SMALL. 3)Fight the election on issue of Nationalism/Patriotism.With support 2 N-deal,this issue TIMING of election will NEVER be a constraint. 4)Break the chines hidden ambassador Mr.Karats back and dream of spoiling the game.
Whole world is aware that it was YOU who moved 4 this N-deal that 2 in very shabby manners.Congress has done better on this.We cannot waste time 4 doing STILL better and MISS the bus itself.
All the educated class knows WHAT is going around , with the new election re-distribution of voying poppulation with major chunck going to urban voters areas( which comprises of educated ppl )...dont try to fool them.
Instead of toppling the Gov now , SAVE them for 1 year and GET SYMPATHY votes to pull out 300 seats in 2009.
RE:Can BJP play a role of BIG brother to congress?
by arp on Jul 11, 2008 12:41 PM Permalink
LEFT FRONT has withdrew support and congress led UPA came in minority.BJP supports nuke deal without HYDE ACT.UPA sud amend nuke deal with USA.In democracy every party has own view.Congress sud respect others views.But here congress made single agenda to win gespite high inflation.If nuke deal is good for india then was congress sleeping in 2007?It is political gimic.Except NDA no other party wants election becoz they failed in governance and also failed to check high inflation.Current trade dificit is 10%.UPA ia faled on all fronts.
RE:Can BJP play a role of BIG brother to congress?
by All Right on Jul 11, 2008 01:30 PM Permalink
Mr. Ramani:
1) BJP is already solid in their nationalistic image. Don't need unnecessary "projections" like Congress. 2) Congress has already their foot in their mouth. No need to belittle them further, they are exposed for everyone to see. 3) BJP can fight the election very well on their current strengths. Refer Point 1) above. 4) Karat's back is already broken by Congress thank you very much.
NDA did move this deal initially. But not in the hasty and shabby manner Congress has approached it. Congress has done better on this, you feel? I don't think so. Point me out why didn't they have enough confidence in themselves to take everyone along? Why did they have to make it "support it" OR ELSE?.. :-) Inclusive politics is not played in this fashion. Congress must learn the art of coalition dharma -- as perfected by NDA during its comparatively perfect tenure.
Your guess about educated class being aware is perfectly right. Hence all these gymnastics and "lies galore" of Congress is coming into limelight. 20 years back, nobody would have known what's going on. Now Congress must pay the price for its follies.
Instead of SOMEHOW cobbling 272 members together, Congress should call for a fresh election, if it can't muster enough support. BJP will get 300 seats anyway in 2009 or whenever the elections are held.
RE:Can BJP play a role of BIG brother to congress?
by Vikas on Jul 11, 2008 12:52 PM Permalink
Pankaj Ramani u follish congress agent. u cant get BJP to support Congress.
After all BJP is the communal party. BJP is a bigger evil than George Bush. How do u expect BJP to support Congress ?
RE:Can BJP play a role of BIG brother to congress?
by debesh kanungo on Jul 11, 2008 12:33 PM Permalink
fools n coservatives cant open their mouth fully bloody playing an oppurtunistic role to get power -------------------they r dividing india too let others finish them-
RE:Can BJP play a role of BIG brother to congress?
by All Right on Jul 11, 2008 01:17 PM Permalink
Yeah Debesh:
For the likes of you there is a saying -- "It's infinitely better by keeping quiet and letting other think you MIGHT be foolish, than to open your mouth and remove any doubts"
CANT DO THAT COZ CONSERVATIVE MINDS NEVER ALLOW THEM TO COME OUT N HELP INDIA PEOPLE.IF SOMETHING GOES WRONG THEY SHOUT N NOW THEY R SILENT WHY?WANT POWER BUT BJP CANT IF NEVER DO GOOD BY SUPPOERTING A GOOD CAUSE.by debesh kanungo on Jul 11, 2008 10:57 AM MY DEAR HAVE U GONE THRU THE PAGES OF N-DEAL------------------------ NOT ONLY MR KALAM BUT COUNCIL OF SCIENTISTS RELATED TO THIS TOPIC HAVE OPINED FOR THE DEAL------------IF POLITICIANS R FOOL THEN WE MUST SAY WE R UNLUCKY TO BE INDIANS hai re ye bjp kya karega bombay mein drain kiya nahi ye nahi karega bhi oppose karega
RE:bjp fools------------------------------bombay drainage bhi nahi kiya tha
by All Right on Jul 11, 2008 01:31 PM Permalink
Mr. Debesh:
For the likes of you there is an excellent saying -- "It's infinitely better to keep quiet and let others think you MIGHT be foolish, than to open your mouth and remove all doubts"
RE:bjp fools------------------------------bombay drainage bhi nahi kiya tha
by Vikas on Jul 11, 2008 12:59 PM Permalink
BJP is defeating Congress in all state elections. NDA will defeat Congress and come to power in next parliament election
RE:bjp fools------------------------------bombay drainage bhi nahi kiya tha
by Jitendra Kumar on Jul 11, 2008 01:02 PM Permalink
You are confused. Never participate in debate if it causes health problem.
RE:bjp fools------------------------------bombay drainage bhi nahi kiya tha
by All Right on Jul 11, 2008 01:19 PM Permalink
Yeah... obviously in Congress parlance stating facts is never encouraged... so you call names to someone who states exactly what he sees... that confuses you..
RE:bad or good -a lot dont know about n-deal
by debesh kanungo on Jul 11, 2008 12:30 PM Permalink
n deal is dangerous all right? no left says as china communist says but why bjp silent they must say yes or no bur says nara ba gunjare aswasthama hataa
RE:bad or good -a lot dont know about n-deal
by arp on Jul 11, 2008 12:28 PM Permalink
Big corporates are behind thid dirty number game.Dalals of corporates can mange magic number i dont think so.God save india
All Political parties are chor--BJP,Congress,BSP,SP,.... for political gains they will become narrow minded,narrow sighted... This deal is supported by all gr8 experts like Dr.Kalam,Mr.Brajesh Mishra(BJP Advisor),Anil kakodkar & other nuclear experts & visionaries-- For India to progress Deal is necessary -- Timing is necessary --- China & Russia also signed the deal -- we will lag by 3 yrs dont divert the issue and make it Congress Vs BJP--- It is For India or against India -- Rise above Political party for India
RE:Rise above Political Party ?
by arp on Jul 11, 2008 12:22 PM Permalink
Any party who want his political sucide will support congress when inflation is too high.UPA must go.
UPA sud go.they politicised nuke deal and put all other things backyard like good governance,high inflation.congress is trying to fool indians.Mulayam is licking behind so called secular mask.
RE:UPA sud go
by All Right on Jul 11, 2008 12:21 PM Permalink
Of your left brains there is nothing right, and of your right brain there is nothing left
(Though I admire your taking off the Caps-Lock... thanks about that)
RE:UPA sud go
by debesh kanungo on Jul 11, 2008 12:45 PM Permalink
LEFT IS ALWAYS LEFT CANT B RIGHT COZ WAITING FOR MONEY FROM CHINA IF THEY DONT ALLOW N-DEAL
RE:RE:UPA sud go
by debesh kanungo on Jul 11, 2008 12:47 PM Permalink
I ADMIRE UR INTELLIGENCE BUT FEEL PITY ABOUT YOUR DELIVERING N APPLICATION OF THAT INTELLIGENCE ------ ALL RIGHT
RE:UPA sud go
by Jitendra Kumar on Jul 11, 2008 12:15 PM Permalink
They have successfully involed evreybody including you in nuclear deal debate. You are also talking about nuclear deal & mulayam.
RE:RE:UPA sud go
by All Right on Jul 11, 2008 12:22 PM Permalink
Successfully?... I think as a last resort... If they were successful, this episode wouldn't have cropped up on this board... The deal would have been signed 18 months ago.. instead of constant threats from individual UPA constituents against each other..
RE:RE:UPA sud go by debesh kanungo on Jul 11, 2008 12:47 PM I ADMIRE UR INTELLIGENCE BUT FEEL PITY ABOUT YOUR DELIVERING N APPLICATION OF THAT INTELLIGENCE ------ ALL RIGHT
Sitaram Yechury is surprisingly silent on the N-deal vs CPM issue. He is the Congress mole in CPM and his silence amounts to his sidelining and lack of trust on him by the party and his backstabing of CPM by not articulating the party stand at this juncture. Or the CIA purchased Yechury?
Congress was only talking to Left for N-Deal, they were Ignoring Oppositon, all of sudden they are asking opposition Support. They have ignored Oppositon on issue of Inflation, now why will opposition Oblige Govt.? Gone are the Days of Narshimha Rao and Vajpayee where Govt. and Opposition had good relation, it was Narshimaha Govt. initally Supported by BJP and it was stable one. Then Leader of Opposition Vajpayee, addressed UNO Submit also. NOw days are different.
RE:Congress seeking help from Opposition.
by arp on Jul 11, 2008 12:15 PM Permalink
Dalal taklu told that mulayam will support congress to keep out communal forces.Left is oppsing.Is left is communal by said of taklu and hakla?nothing but dalali of corporates interests.
RE:Congress seeking help from Opposition.
by Jitendra Kumar on Jul 11, 2008 12:18 PM Permalink
Why didn't you stop Opium singh to approach them with folded hands and bended knees for their support.
RE:Congress seeking help from Opposition.
by All Right on Jul 11, 2008 12:23 PM Permalink
Why should anyone?... Everyone is free to approach SP with folded hands, bended knees and bruised egos (remember Mulayam being the biggest hater of Italian Sonia?..:-)
Like the Bokran (Initiated by the previous Govt. and executed by the Scientists - just when BJP was ruling), Panchayatraj (Drafted and Documented by Shri Rajiv Gandhi but unfortunate that brought to public by the BJP), They want the N-Deal too be like that. This Coalition govt. will do all the ground work - BJP will topple this govt. - and if they come to power the next time they will sign the treaty and say It's Advani Ji who Signed or put thumb impression on the N-deal document - Like Mr Vajpayee executed the Pokran.
RE:Its the BJP's tactism...
by All Right on Jul 11, 2008 11:56 AM Permalink
Not this time. They will neither succeed in toppling the govt or return to power
RE:Its the BJP's tactism...
by arp on Jul 11, 2008 11:58 AM Permalink
NDA was better than this ulta pulta UPA.As election is coming near congress made nuke deal on top and put all high inflation back.It is only political gimic.Dalals,corporates and fodder eater laloo are playing their cards.
RE:Its the BJP's tactism...
by Jitendra Kumar on Jul 11, 2008 12:04 PM Permalink
Samata Mamata & Jayalalita episodes were really entertaining. I missed them lot.
RE:RE:Its the BJP's tactism...
by All Right on Jul 11, 2008 12:25 PM Permalink
Yeah.. so for your constant and bigger entertainment, here's the grand show put together by UPA, Left, SP and BSP...
RE:Its the BJP's tactism...
by BhagatSukhdevRajguru on Jul 11, 2008 12:02 PM Permalink
3) Any how even by supporting & signing the deal, advani's BJP would get in drivers seat in next year election -- And Mr.Advani could not decrease the inflation as oil prices are not in his control -- we have seen what they did in last government (cylinder prices rose to 300 Rs - Ram Naik was petroleum minister)-- their vision is narrow sighted -- only making political issue for bigger gain - only for himself & Party!!! ----- History will always ask questions?
RE:Its the BJP's tactism...
by All Right on Jul 11, 2008 12:03 PM Permalink
3) What are you trying to say, Sonia only knows..
What of history? People of the country are sore-throated asking a mountainful of questions of this Congress for the last 55 years... history can keep asking umpteen questions... nothing will happen till you have someone who can answer them...
RE:Its the BJP's tactism...
by BhagatSukhdevRajguru on Jul 11, 2008 12:10 PM Permalink
All Political parties are chor--BJP,Congress,BSP,SP,.... for political gains they will become narrow minded,narrow sighted... This deal is supported by all gr8 experts like Dr.Kalam,Mr.Brajesh Mishra(BJP Advisor),Anil kakodkar & other nuclear experts & visionaries-- For India to progress Deal is necessary -- China & russia also signed the deal -- we will lag by 3 yrs dont divert the issue and make it Congress Vs BJP--- It is For India or against India -- Rise above Political party for India
RE:Its the BJP's tactism...
by BhagatSukhdevRajguru on Jul 11, 2008 11:55 AM Permalink
Thats why India lags Behind all nation inspite of Resources, Timing is important -- 1)Indian polititians never care for the timing.China has already signed one deal with US -work has started -- US & Russia has also signed Deal. 2)Dr.Kalam,Mr.Brajesh Mishra(BJP Advisor),other non-congress etc. are experts & visionary--they know the timing--- by the time India makes next goverment & sign the deal , it will take more 1-2 yrs.(already we took 2 yrs for this negotiation) -- we would lose the crucial time (more thn 3 yrs) -- china and other countries will be far ahead. 3) Any how even by supporting & signing the deal, advani's BJP would get in drivers seat in next year election -- And Mr.Advani could not decrease the inflation as oil prices are not in his control -- we have seen what they did in last government (cylinder prices rose to 300 Rs - Ram Naik was petroleum minister)-- their vision is narrow sighted -- only making political issue for bigger gain - only for himself & Party!!! ----- History will always ask questions?
RE:RE:Its the BJP's tactism...
by All Right on Jul 11, 2008 12:01 PM Permalink
Hello self-proclaimed-freedom fighter.. (donno why you don't put a Jawaharlal NehruIndiraGandhi in front of your name)..
1) There are hundred other countries who haven't.. since you like to go by precedence, I thought it best to point it out to you..
2) Already we took more than 3 years for this negotiattion for your information,... the deal was signed by MMS on 18th July 2005... your history seems to be weak..
3) What are you trying to say, Sonia only knows..
What of history? People of the country are sore-throated asking a mountainful of questions of this Congress for the last 55 years... history can keep asking umpteen questions... nothing will happen till you have someone who can answer them...
