Kindly read the draft agreement in detail. There is nothing there that is harmful to India's context. In fact there are many clauses in language which provide for exit routes to India. No doubt there is furore from Non-Proliferation Lobby in USA about these clauses that explicitly benefit India.
These left donkeys and BJP asses it seems do not understand plain english. Prakash Karat and his brothern donkeys and useless politicians are one whole bunch of pure refined useless buggers who are nothing but REFINED CHINESE STOOGES.
to all those who oppose approaching IAEA for safeguards (for which DONKEY PRAKASH KARAT WITHDREW SUPPORT), READ THE DRAFT AGREEMENT and i sincerely hope you understand very plain simple english there. MIND YOU THERE IS NOTHING IN THERE AGAINST INDIA. IT IS INDIA SPECIFIC AND INDIA BENEFICIAL.
RE:IAEA safeguards agreement.
by varghese on Jul 10, 2008 11:15 AM Permalink
rightly said Prabhakar...we need such deals..USA is our natural ally..its best to join with USA and help our own selves..even Russia our old trusted friend is an ally of USA..even China..Even Pakisthan..so whats stopping us...fools that we are we are fighting against the tide and hoping to enjoy..what an foolish waste of energies...stupid people good for nothing scums..finally these assess dream of going and settling down in USA or some European countries..and here they want to keep our land like an sewage house..jealous louts..fooling the nation...wll done Congress..well done...Jai Hind..
RE:RE:IAEA safeguards agreement.
by varghese on Jul 10, 2008 11:18 AM Permalink
Selling wives to bosses is an Arab idea...i have been in guld for more than 10 years..i have seen Indian Muslims offer their wives as an natural process..infact lots of gifts are arranged...the shiek also goes to the muslim fellows house and uses his daughters and DILs..this is natural in Gulf muslim nations...but boy...Younus...in USA and Europe..no one needs any ones wives..here there are lots of more beautiful women around..u pay and u get the best type of women...not like sharia countries..where u have to become gays out of no choice...lol
RE:RE:IAEA safeguards agreement.
by Hemant Kumar on Jul 10, 2008 10:55 AM Permalink
Don't be so sure and jump the gun Prabhakar. THough you may be righht in condemning the leftist asses, I am not so sure about the BJP asses. In fact the Congress seems to be more full of self serving, boot licking asses. Even though there is a section in the US opposed to the vagueness of some clauses which they fear India might use to iyts advantage, please don't forget that the US with all its might is ten times more likely to impose its interpretation on India. This is the truth that the current administration knows and hence their overeagerness for the deal. Though the deal by and large seems to be OK, there is no harm in getting even a better one through hard bargaining like the BJP is trying to do.
RE:IAEA safeguards agreement.
by mahabodhi on Jul 10, 2008 11:15 AM Permalink
@prabhakar kommaruvlu what r u suggesting !Why not ask Congress to make text public as IAEA has no objections !Why u use abusive language for those who r gainst the NDeal on certian grounds!Ur dubious charcter is clear when u abususive language for Communists and dub domkey Karat but r not saying a single abusive word for BJP !Why !All corrupt middle class r exposed !BJP has on record said that deal is against Muslims !So they r aGAINST IT !SUCH SHEER hYPOCRACY !against it !Read corrupt BJP leaders statements ! "USA's act of terror against muslims are still fresh in mind ..By supporting the deal SP has betrayed the (Muslim) community .-BJP vice President Mukhatar Abbas Naqvi !U r definetly not agianst the NDeal fpor ur information 90% Indians do not even know about the Ndeal !what does rickshawwallah or panwala or housemaid working in ur house knows of NDeal !India is country where the largest number of malnourished world population lives !Corrupt middle class netizens think that they r in majority here in Rediff and hv right to condemn any one who is against BJP hypocracy ! And please do check which Indians hv been regular ly going to China !the most r upper caste traders who r in fact chinese agents !That is using ur language as u used in ur posts !So hv check of those who hv been regularly going to China and their names be published in public !all kulaks and corrupt traders -supporting BJp will be revealed !So officially BJP is against NDeal as it is against Muslim as con
RE:RE:IAEA safeguards agreement.
by mahabodhi on Jul 10, 2008 11:16 AM Permalink
all kulaks and corrupt traders -supporting BJp will be revealed !So officially BJP is against NDeal as it is against Muslim as confoirmed by its vice president !Now do not say that the context of the speech is not that as u say of Advani's speech praising Jinnah !Now u can also say that Vice President speech is in diferent context and is to be praised !
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by mahabodhi on Jul 10, 2008 11:26 AM Permalink
@hemant kumar u r also BJP supporter !So u hv diferent ideas !The main idea of BJP is coruption which it feeds and is bootlicker of America!Why it could not even get sanctions removed or arrange uranium for India's running Niclear plants !Even in 1974 sanctions were imposed !and most RSS leaders such as Vajpayee and Advani came to power in 1977 , but could not get uranium supply for Tarapore Nuclear plant !why !why RSS leaders such as Vajpayee and Advani who were powerful and Atal Vajpayee was touring around the world with his all his charm and called Udan Behari Vajpayee !Why RSS leaders childern r in America such as Vajpayee's adopted ???? daughter Nadita and Yashwant Sinha's childern !Why !It was only after 1980 that Indiara Gandhi could arrange Uranium for Tarapour Plant fom France after American approval !Why RSS leaders and their party could not arrange even uranum supply for running NPlants of Infai for the last ten years !What NDeal they want for Indai !Where is the Text !These bootlickers who r progeny fo british and mugha rulers -as they were upper castes conferred with Rai Bahadur Title !Even Gandhi was confered KaiserE Hind for services to British empire ! NDeal has exposed RSs leaders and in future it will further exposed their corrupt /dubious character !so now they say that NDEal is against muslims and shpould be dropped !What hypocracy !
RE:IAEA safeguards agreement.
by Shiv Thakur on Jul 10, 2008 11:38 AM Permalink
Mahabodhi it was atal bihari Vajpayee in 1964 told in parliament after necular blast made by china that Parmanoo bomb ka Jawab parmanoo bomb se denge. BJP is not opposing this deal as communist. BJP want this deal also but without hide act. BJP want to equal partner in this deal . in present this deal totally sell out of atomic sovernity. It was Indira who asked to russia to sto p supply of ureniam for tarapur project after loosing election in 1977.she was a russian puppet.
RE:IAEA safeguards agreement.
by mahabodhi on Jul 10, 2008 11:49 AM Permalink
@shiv thakur whom u called russian puppet was revered by Atal Behari Vajpayee as Durga Mata ! And who stopped uranium to Tarapur plant ? Why after 1998 who told Nuclear suppliars to stop supplying uranium to India ! Forget about the NDeal !First task is to get Uranium supply for existing running Plants !This RSS/BJP failed to do so after the sanctions were imposed !u r prime example of bigot supporters of BJP !Why i do not come to agitation when Modi was denied Visa !Why Gujartis asmita was not damaged by american denial !Why these so called Gujarati Asmita leaders send their childern to America for study and even most hv become american Citizen such as Atal Vajpayee's Adopted ???? daughter , Yashwant Sinha's childern !The list should be made and published by govt. and this wil prove who is selling India's soveriegnity to west !
I support BJP and hence I support the Nuclear Deal because BJP has initiated the Deal. I do not support BJP in not supporting the Deal because I will have to support the Deal if BJP comes back in power and supports the Deal. So better I support the Deal now itself and continue with my stand. Long Live BJP..
RE:I support BJP
by manish tiwary on Jul 10, 2008 11:00 AM Permalink
I wish our jokers(politicians)to come out of dirty politics and think and act positively in national interest.
RE:I support BJP
by mahabodhi on Jul 10, 2008 11:57 AM Permalink
@shiv thakur just confirm who sell these chinese products -these tradersb - they too r RSS supporters !And go to RSS shakhas !And they go regularly to China for procuring chinese products !And which Mouse u r using !or for that matter any computer products !why not socially bycott the traders who import chinese products !And these tradrs r also looting poor Indian ! And most r vote bank of RSs/BJP !
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by mahabodhi on Jul 10, 2008 11:59 AM Permalink
@shiv thakur who r main distributors of MNC prodcuts like tooth pastes etc. in India !Most r traders-BaqNIAS -FULLY SUPPOTERS OF rss/bjp ! Who sells coke/pepsi !make a list of main distributors and u will know the truth !All r upper castes corrupt traderrs who r vote bank of RSS/BJP !
RE:I support BJP
by mahabodhi on Jul 10, 2008 12:08 PM Permalink
@shiv thaku u must be aware that late Promod Mahajan who was killed by his own brother for reasons ----!well he is dead now but promod Mahajan used to arramnge BJP functions in Five star hotels and what was being served ther !Pepsi or coke ! Veg or Nonveg !chinese or Continental ! What is main food habits of RSS leaders childern !Even once BJP leader said - that his childern liked Macdonald -!(Mumbai BJP leader ) !The Atal Vajpayee has been fond of wine ,nonveg etc !but that is personal and he can hv personal choices ! Why one of his adopted daughjter during 1977 tenure was made a Mangement trainee with MNC hotel chain !These r facts and on records !
RE:I support BJP
by mahabodhi on Jul 10, 2008 10:58 AM Permalink
@chankaya u r BJP supporter !But u do not that BJP has on record dubbed it as Deal against Muslims and is against it !Read corrupt BJP leaders statements ! "USA's act of terror against muslims are still fresh in mind ..By supporting the deal SP has betrayed the (Muslim) community .-BJP vice President Mukhatar Abbas Naqvi !Such is the bJP charcter ! This party has lost all relevence to call others psedocommunal !This party wants communal clashes and civil war for gaining power at centre !Indore incidents r clear indications !Supporters such as u r also clear indications that BJp supporters r fanatic and kulak and corrupt !They do not want war with china when chinese make incursions Why !They do not want to bycott the traders-Banias -who import Chinese products !Why !these tradrrs-Chinese agents - go regularly to China and r in fact traitors agents of the China !BJP failed to procure Uranium for India's running Nuclear plants !Why !the BJP does not want any aggrressive policy against chinese agression agaionst India but want trade so that its vote bank -Banias continue to dump the chinese products in India and these chinese agents -Traders make profit !such sher hypocracy of kulak corrupt BJP !
RE:I support BJP
by Shiv Thakur on Jul 10, 2008 11:44 AM Permalink
Mahabodhi Come with us in RSS shakah. as a Swanyam sewak I always use goods manufactured by Idain Company in my personal life also all member of RSS do it in his personal life. Shop and Surf- By Nirma Tooth pase- By Dabur India Ltd Shoes- Made by Local Cobbler. Cloths-Stiches by local tailor I use only mobile mdaie in china by nokia but I assure you which day any Indain will provide a mobile set I will throw my this mobile phone
Whenever the deal is about to take shape these lobbyists come up with reservations as if USA is doing a favour to India. What Mr.Ronen Sen, Chick with head, is dicussing now, to go ahead in the deal?
This Rediff. report by Aziz confirms my doubts. I have been saying that this Deal is "good in principle" but may NOT be good "in detail". The DEVIL lies in the details. At least two or three major areas of "contention" have been left rather vague by both sides. The matter of interrupted or inadequate fuel supplies, what freedom of action India has in such eventualities? "Testing" to "upgrade" nuclear weapons India already has - estimated to be between 200 and 300. "Testing" underground may become necessary as India wishes to employ indigenous technologies. Further the use of Thorium as a fuel may also require testing as a source of "weapon" fuel - although it would be several years before India can reach that stage with thorium. But then this "Deal" is supposed to be in perpetuity.
I'm not an admirer of Congress and its pseudo-prime ministership of MMS and his ideologies. But his actions for the nuclear agreement (a milestone for India to step forward with the developed nations) was really good. I hope Congress wins this v-o-confidence motion and gets this agreement done. Left and BJP were very opportunistic in this regard. Atleast BJP's job was to do that being an opposition party! But Left's intentions and their recent past in WB is not going to help them in forthcoming elections.
Nuclear Deal issue should be taken into Supreme Court urgently. Because Congress Party in the name of National Security keeps all secret issues hidden and never took the approval in the Parliament House. Since the matter (N-deal) is not passed in the parliament, it can not be a law. Therefore somebody should file a petition in Supreme Court in urgently to challenge the legality of the deal which strictly hampering the national interest and sovereignty of the nation, Congress does not respect the mandate of people's opinion and also does not respect the Parliament. Let Congress Party give the details of the N-deal agreement to the Supreme court and legality of the deal in terms of national security and sovereignty be scrutinized in Supreme Court. Let somebody file the petition in the Supreme Court.
RE:Nuclear Deal (US-India) issue should be taken into Supreme Court urgently
by huzefa hakimi on Jul 10, 2008 10:30 AM Permalink
U can also file a public litigation for it, why do not you urself?
Why can not India getting the N-Deal or here also have to think of politics.
If this will not work, ur masters will be back on path of divide and rule on basis of communal divide. U call this nation as ur matrabumhi, so if u guys hold honor it, thn sincerely give it a honest thought and act as per. Do not bring politics in the way of development! how much would u push India behind, uhhh?
RE:Nuclear Deal (US-India) issue should be taken into Supreme Court urgently
by NK on Jul 10, 2008 09:39 AM Permalink
why dont u do it intelligent boy??.. U r not aware of basic facts abt constitution.. this is no law.. this is treay between two nations! Next what.. get all the deals which i dont for what reason India keeps on signing with other countries get ratification by Supreme court including the business ones.. so dissolve parliament and let Supreme Court handle everything!!
RE:RE:Nuclear Deal (US-India) issue should be taken into Supreme Court urgently
by sakar panch on Jul 10, 2008 10:06 AM Permalink
Bit of a shame; since in one country in the two party agreement, it was debated in the parliament thread bare and all their interests were safeguarded with ammendmends, while the second party (country) in the agreement the MPs are not even made known of the contents, let alone a debate or vote.
RE:Nuclear Deal (US-India) issue should be taken into Supreme Court urgently
by Santosh on Jul 10, 2008 10:12 AM Permalink
it is amazing that even supporting party do not know anything one is asking to kalam sb, other supporting left out bcoz they also do not know completely about deal
RE:Nuclear Deal (US-India) issue should be taken into Supreme Court urgently
by Santosh on Jul 10, 2008 09:56 AM Permalink
If any party want to sell the country in the name of national security,what will your answer let them allow to do or go to supreme court
RE:Nuclear Deal (US-India) issue should be taken into Supreme Court urgently
by NK on Jul 10, 2008 10:51 AM Permalink
Who decides man... The sell-off of the country happned in case of Kashmir, Siachen, Chinese peace treaty etc. This is a treaty where people like u dont understand basic argument 1. We are going for nuclear fuel - tech is secondary 2. All these countries will impose sanctions anyways if we conduct the test 3. Weapons development is always underground. IAEA or NSG can't stop India in any way.
4.Why people say its a sell-off when u will only get something in return than sending anything from ur country. Worst come to the worst say all critical developemtal scientific labs as for military purpose( in which case they dont go under IAEA observation) 5. Use existing Uranium for military and imported for civilian use!
RE:Nuclear Deal (US-India) issue should be taken into Supreme Court urgently
by Shiv Thakur on Jul 10, 2008 11:50 AM Permalink
Dear NK 1.why we should not develop our technology to use Thorium for neclear fuel. 2.Why We should have hide act. 3. How we seperate Military or Non military plant. 4.Why a independent country will allow to apply american domestic rule. 5. Why we allow to american to observe our neclear base on the nmae of IAEA
RE:Nuclear Deal (US-India) issue should be taken into Supreme Court urgently
by huzefa hakimi on Jul 10, 2008 10:06 AM Permalink
U can also file a public litigation for it, why do not you urself?
Why can not India getting the N-Deal or here also have to think of politics.
If this will not work, ur masters will be back on path of divide and rule on basis of communal divide. U call this nation as ur matrabumhi, so if u guys hold honor it, thn sincerely give it a honest thought and act as per. Do not bring politics in the way of development! how much would u push India behind, uhhh?
This article is very poorly written. It contains grammar and constuction mistakes. Is there no editor in Rediff?
See a sample mistake...
"As expected, the non-proliferation lobby in the United States -- "which has been vehemently opposed to the deal" and has sought to torpedo it, lobbying feverishly on Capitol Hill with Congressman Howard Berman, California Democrat, and chairman of the Foreign Affairs Committee as its key ally and the one who introduced killer amendments during the House debate and vote on the enabling legislation -- lost no time in poking holes in the India-IAEA safeguards agreement."
Either you say "which has venhemently opposed the deal" or which has been vehemently opposing the deal"
I am just highliting one only. There are more and the style of writing is also substandard.
I am sorry to be critical of this article. The idea is to remind rediff of it is high standard. It is frustrating to read such English.
RE:Article relating to N-Deal by Rediff reporter in Washington
by Siddique Ansari on Jul 10, 2008 09:36 AM Permalink
Mr. KV - there is nothing wrong with the grammar and construction of the sample sentence. Sorry, but your comment is misplaced.
RE:Article relating to N-Deal by Rediff reporter in Washington
by Shree on Jul 10, 2008 10:42 AM Permalink
YOU ARE RIGHT mr krisnan these things though may look trival, but not expected form a reputed media like rediff.
RE:Article relating to N-Deal by Rediff reporter in Washington
by Rakesh Sharma on Jul 10, 2008 09:53 AM Permalink
YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY WRONG. TRY TO UNDERSTAND PROPERLY.
RE:Article relating to N-Deal by Rediff reporter in Washington
by NK on Jul 10, 2008 09:40 AM Permalink
Hmmmmm... U got the message right.. what r u some PHD in english.. discussion is on issue of national importance u Half Firangis come here and disuss english....
RE:Can any Mullah explain?
by prabhat mohanty on Jul 10, 2008 09:54 AM Permalink
- Just giving a name like "Mr Indian" does not qualify you to ask ridiculous questions.
RE:Can any Mullah explain?
by Siddique Ansari on Jul 10, 2008 09:39 AM Permalink
Mr. Indian - The BJP and coterie are opposing the Nuclear Deal. Are you pointing your finger at them as potential mullahs? Or, the Comrades? Please explain.
RE:Can any Mullah explain?
by rohit sharma on Jul 10, 2008 09:56 AM Permalink
An Indian..Can you sing complete song of Vande Mataram and do you knwo meaning of these, if yes pls let me know or stop barking.
RE:Can any Mullah explain?
by NK on Jul 10, 2008 09:43 AM Permalink
Shut up man.. and speak sense.. many muslims organizations have given clear support.. get some life.. PS: I am a Hindu
