Everything they wanted and more was there in the agreement in sum or the other form. What else do they want? I was watching Dr. Gopalakrishnan telling about the non existence of those clauses when the same clauses were being shown in the background.
RE:Who is PK Iyengar?
by rationalist on Jul 10, 2008 11:11 PM Permalink
gentle man, yes I am asking him the question not u. But I am sure the existing arrangements doesnt guarantee that. You may refer to the Kalpakkam reactor which is the prototpe for thorium based reactors and s supposed to rum with thorium in its third stage (not yet there now).
Hyde act is ofcourse at best is avoided . But when you go for a adeal with US is un avoidable. Hyde act has been signed by China and Russia . There are other acts of US law already many countries benefited from ( Presler amendment etc..)
I am clear understanding of the way fast breeder reactor works and that of thorium fission including the equations with neutron count energy etc . Hence my simple question to Mr PK Ayankar
How he will trigger his thorium when we do not have U-235 reserves fast depleting in this country..
RE:Who is PK Iyengar?
by VinayBabu Ravuri on Jul 10, 2008 11:56 PM Permalink
Our reactors got uranium from Russia not NSG and some of our civilian reactors are under IAEA already difference is there is a installation specific agreement with IAEA now. Now with stringent measures being framed Russia cannot supply uranium to India. So, we need to get this IAEA agreement which far better than China's and likes. Hyde Act governs all the agreements of US not just Indian. 123 agreement is India specific. So, if Hyde act effects Russia, China, Australia, UK and all the other countries it will effect India too. But 123 agreement is India specific giving a lot of advantage as India is not signatory of NPT. And the one whom u called expert of the matter has shown his affiliation to the biased intentions and revealed nothing about Hyde act.
RE:Who is PK Iyengar?
by critic on Jul 11, 2008 02:39 AM Permalink
We have been duped by congress at all time for not revealing the text of the draft which they intend to sign.It is clear that they want to make Indians slaves of West!
RE:Who is PK Iyengar?
by rationalist on Jul 10, 2008 11:51 PM Permalink
It is true that NSG was formed with the initiation from USA after India did the nuclear test. That is correct. Bit the current situation is that Australasia, France and Russia are not at all willing to talk to India till we sign NPT.
Now with new geo political situation US has lost an alley in Pak and want some kind of balancing force in Asia to China and they can not trust any other country that India in current situation. That is reason No 1 why US is ready to sign the deal which is criticized by many Non Proliferation Ayatollahs within and outside US
The second reason being when these tenders are called for, US companies will also get a benefit ( but there is no exclusivity to USA in this)
So definitely USA sees a strategic benefit in it. But i have no problem if they benefit. What India needs is to stockpile as much as imported uranium using the window provided by the deal. There is no guaranty that tomorrow this will hold. But if India can have sufficient big stock of U-235 imported by that time, it will be purely depending on our foreign diplomatic skills to mange the situation. Granted we are not good in that field .Yet once we have enough U -235 in our backyard it is up to our economic muzzle and political will to start re-processing which can be used for Thorium based reactors) or go one step further and do tests on a need basis. The geo politics situation of the future might provide those opportunities for us to do so.
It is unfortunate that these rhree scientists are misleading the indians just by taking sides with politicians against indian national interests. Former President Abdul Kalam, and Prime Minister Abdul kalam will be long rembered in Indian History for their contribution of Indian Science & technolgy and Indian Economy. Those who are contributing now in this manner against national interests have no place in the hearts of Indians.Please remember.
RE:Who is betraying???
by Dipak Bose on Jul 11, 2008 08:14 AM Permalink
Kalam is not a scientist at all. He has only a Diploma in Mechanical Engineering from Madras Polytechnic. He because he was both a Tamil and a Muslim was pushed to become the administrator of the DRDO and wasted Rs.7500 crores doing nothing. He never wrote any scientific papers , he never did any research.
Ye deal na ho gaya, maya jaal ho gaya. kuch samajh mey nahi aatha baap kaun sahi kaun galath. Left kkehta hay danger hay, mullah kehtha hay haram hay, bhajpa bole text badlo..
kya hay bhai ye nukliar deal???
aam aadmi roti kapda aur makaan key liye pareshan, neta khel rahe deal ya no deal!!
My hearty congratulations to our eminent scientists Dr.Iyengar,Dr.Gopalakrishnan and Dr.Prasad, for being bold to tell the truth.I believe you people rather than Dr.Kalam, who is not a nuclear scientist in the first place.
RE:scientists wary of safeguards agreement text
by deepak on Jul 10, 2008 08:42 PM Permalink
Dr. Kalam is a Rocket Scientist, his expertise is in missiles and thrust of engines, not configuring elements... Dr. Singh on the other hand is a puppet, guided by remote control... PV Narsimha Rao made him foreign minister because even he knew He could ask anything from ManMoron and he will do it...
RE:scientists wary of safeguards agreement text
by Srinivas on Jul 10, 2008 08:48 PM Permalink
abey deepak, tere bheje ka deepak tho bhuj gaya, dhakkan - Manmohan Singh finance mantri tha foren mantri nahi.. chal hawa aaney dey..time khoti math kar..ja so ja
RE:scientists wary of safeguards agreement text
by Dipak Bose on Jul 11, 2008 08:15 AM Permalink
Kalam is not a scientist at all. He has only a Diploma in Mechanical Engineering from Madras Polytechnic. He because he was both a Tamil and a Muslim was pushed to become the administrator of the DRDO and wasted Rs.7500 crores doing nothing. He never wrote any scientific papers , he never did any research.
