its quite surprising and almost fishy to see media giving credits to the puppet as if he is the master... while we all know about his mistress and how he is just a slave under her!
RE:surprising...
by Philo on Jul 09, 2008 07:35 PM Permalink
Yeah right. As though your are prejudiced. All your postings are proof that you are more prejudice than anyone in this blog
RE:surprising...
by Mohamed Fameen on Jul 09, 2008 08:18 PM Permalink
Have some respect for a great talented and corrupt free leader of India. If you as an Indian does not respect your leaders, how can you expect people of other countries to respect you and your country
RE:surprising...
by varghese on Jul 09, 2008 07:26 PM Permalink
We need more puppets like this ..after all all cannot be masters..if not it will be like afganisthan..hehhehhhe
to find a decent educated world renowed,honest slave is very very rare...after all he is free from corruption..who like this...None..because all of u have an fixed rate...
great men are not respected in their own country..sad ..people do not like honest men...but would rather like a Jerk an madman or an womaniser or murderer or an Corrupt person..
RE:surprising...
by Praveen George on Jul 09, 2008 07:26 PM Permalink
well you are the proud bandwagonist of the great indian culture, show some civility in your talk especially when this is a discussion board whose audience are literate :-)
RE:surprising...
by adguru on Jul 09, 2008 07:46 PM Permalink
oh...then what are YOU doing over here?
regarding 'puppet' point, I stand by that as we have seen for last 4 years that this puppet has not made any of his own agenda or has made any party announcements (all credit always goes to rahulbaba or madam), he lost sleep over some minor issues and showed us how silly he is in Gujrat during state elections and now all of a sudden the congi PRs have decided to use this puppet as for pushing the deal so that any failure is accounted to him.
But the main problem is do we allow such puppet to rule over us or have some 'leader' (even if he is an extreme) ?
RE:nuclear deal
by Philo on Jul 09, 2008 07:22 PM Permalink
yeah. Read what is on the net. A censored version and even educated people like you fall for it. Just remember one thing. America doesn't do favors to any one. It only wants to Cluster Phuck.
And oh BTW may be this statement will enlighten you: "The Bush Administration has concluded that an Indian shift toward nuclear energy is in the best interest for America to secure its energy needs of coal, crude oil, and natural gas."
So its all in their interest. Not India's. They are using India as a gunniea pig so they can test newer technolgies and see if radiation can be eliminated when these nuclear reactors are near population. So by the time America masters that we will have maimed Indians walking on the streets. Get it?
RE:nuclear deal
by All Right on Jul 09, 2008 07:26 PM Permalink
It is not the censored version. It is the actual agreement that was ratified by the US Congress and found in the US government website
RE:nuclear deal
by Philo on Jul 09, 2008 07:36 PM Permalink
oh yeah. may be you hacked into CIA web site. Care to provide the URL that has the full document or for ever keep quiet.
RE:nuclear deal
by Philo on Jul 09, 2008 07:43 PM Permalink
and oh BTW. there is nothing called US governemnt web site. Any way, why am I wasting my time trying to talk to a prudiced juvenile imbecile?
RE:nuclear deal
by Mohammed Ali on Jul 09, 2008 07:47 PM Permalink
All Right how can you be so naive and say that one of the most important deals to go through today will be posted on the net IN FULL for yo and me to see. they make u see what THEY WANT you to see.
now the real time of ManMohan Singh comes... He will try to a lot of works, lot of deals and saving govt. lets see how much he will do in these days??? Neuclear deal will be a challenge for him and now he need to discuss all the aspecs of deal with nation in detail.
If what is written in the article is so right, India would have started negotiations with all nations of NSG.
The very reason the Indian Govt is talking mostly to the US is that other nations in the NSG need the US permission even to pee.
If it hurt American business interests, only a stupid will believe that he or she can go ahead and get unlimited Uranium from other nations of NSG.
One word from the US is sufficient for Uranium rich countries like Australia to stop supplying Uranium unless India buys American made GE Turbines etc.
Indian PM is not an idiot to spend so much time talking to Bush & Rice if other nations can get away without the US approval.
Mere technical achievement of this deal without the US approval is like:
RE:PERVERTED LOGIC AND INTERPRETATION!
by All Right on Jul 09, 2008 07:23 PM Permalink
Kabeer your understanding of the issue is quite shallow.
You must understand that the NSG was established on the behest of the US as a reaction to Pokhran II and later to Pakistan's own blasts. Once the NSG was constituted uranium supplies, spare parts, technological transfers etc were tightened and even friendly countries like France & Russia were dissuaded to enter into deals with India.
Put anpther way, if there was no Pokhran II, they would be no NSG and no need for such a deal between India and the US.
The US remains the main influential member of NSG so much so unless you have a deal with them, no bi-lateral route can help. This is the reason why even China had to sign a deal with the US
Yes Russia offered us 4 reactors which we refused. Russia did so assuming the deal with NSG will come through. Further India did not want to antagonize the NSG before a deal was struck
RE:PERVERTED LOGIC AND INTERPRETATION!
by Kabeer on Jul 09, 2008 07:34 PM Permalink
Dear All Right,
Read carefully my post!
Am saying precisely the same.
Unless you get acceptance of the main member of the NSG , i.e the US, there is no point in getting the approval of others as even getting their approval without the US approval takes India to nowhere.
If the US approval is not so important Indian PM would have negotiated with other countries and get the NSG approval (majority sans the US) and would have protected his Govt too without antagonising the Left parties. The precise reason for his burning midnight oil with the US is, without the US approval NSG cant give a miiligram of Uranium.
RE:PERVERTED LOGIC AND INTERPRETATION!
by varghese on Jul 09, 2008 07:28 PM Permalink
If this deal helps India it will be great..if this hurts India..we can give back their Fuel...and get back to our Gobar plants...good luck folks
Whatever "'Whashington Post" may comment it is difficult to believe that US is may not be able to complete the deal.It is America it imposes sanction to Iran on one hand and on the other hand it increases tenfold bussiness with Iran during Bush's admnistration as per american (API)report. America is not for loosing bussiness. That"s it.
We must vote congress and aviod China ,our enemy loving Communist for getting funds from china and aviod opportunistic BJP in next election if Govt. falls.
RE:Vote Congress in next elections
by naoroji chandrasekar gabriel on Jul 09, 2008 07:41 PM Permalink
Yes I agree Nation should Vote Congress. It is the only party that can boost our iamge and the only party which can take India to higher GDP
RE:Vote Congress in next elections
by ravindra avsare on Jul 09, 2008 07:33 PM Permalink
Why vote congress, can't you see the present scenario of economy, and their psudo-secularism? Literate people should not vote congress at all.
RE:US congress will convene
by Islah Indian on Jul 09, 2008 06:58 PM Permalink
But, even you will agree that this deal will make India a sought after country among the world's richest nations. This has many advantages.
RE:US congress will convene
by varghese on Jul 09, 2008 07:30 PM Permalink
we can live using our Gobar gas plants...Jai Hind...back to swadeshi....frogs come out of ur well...
India still gets fuel for its existing nuclear plants under bilateral agreements.
If Indian economy kept improving, the uranium producing countries will bend over backwards to circimvent the rules and supply uranium. I feel India had reached that stage--
but Congress snatched defeat from the jaws of victory once again.
Russia recently offered 4 nuclear plants with life long supply of uranium but MMS refused on a flimsy ground that India needs clean clearance. But that clean clerance comes with IAEA inspectors, NSG condition, Hyde act, 123 etc thus falling into a trap.
RE:Actually India does not even need to sign 123 or go to NSG
by All Right on Jul 09, 2008 07:05 PM Permalink
The Russian reactors safety and efficiency features are suspect.
We do not need reactors. India's fast breeder reactors is cutting edge. We need uranium and plutonium, saftety, spare parts etc that could immediately increase the capacity utilization of the 14 reactors we put under IAEA inspection regime
If we need to buy uranium reactors, we should select the French for their reliability, saftety etc
RE:RE:Actually India does not even need to sign 123 or go to NSG
by Sameer on Jul 09, 2008 07:08 PM Permalink
Every nuclear plant has safety issue. Russia has dozens of plants which run rather efficiently. French did not have an accident --so far but that does not mean that they are safe.
RE:Actually India does not even need to sign 123 or go to NSG
by All Right on Jul 09, 2008 07:15 PM Permalink
Is this opinion Sameer as a layman or as someone who has undertaken a detailed study?
RE:Actually India does not even need to sign 123 or go to NSG
by Islah Indian on Jul 09, 2008 07:03 PM Permalink
According to your argument only and if what ypu say is correct then - The deal with Russia can be done later also and MMS only fooled US by rejecting the offer. N-deal involes entire NSG including Russia and not just US.
RE:Actually India does not even need to sign 123 or go to NSG
by Sameer on Jul 09, 2008 07:07 PM Permalink
Deal with Russia would have improved India's bargaining power with US and NSG.
Congress snatched defeat from the jaws of victory once again.
RE:Actually India does not even need to sign 123 or go to NSG
by Islah Indian on Jul 09, 2008 07:16 PM Permalink
The fact is, once again, congrate left BJP speechless and scratching their heads. See, the ultra patriot Narendra Modi is conspicously silent. Is it due to his pending US visa application ? see his nationalism, only if you can.
RE:Actually India does not even need to sign 123 or go to NSG
by Islah Indian on Jul 09, 2008 07:26 PM Permalink
As per news on ibnlive Modi is desperately trying for the US visa.
