RE:Karat jaisa kahtey hain vaisa kertey hain, Nahin kisi sey dartey hain....
by Leoorn on Jul 09, 2008 12:35 PM Permalink
Marxism is not even Indian Buddy ...
RE:Karat jaisa kahtey hain vaisa kertey hain, Nahin kisi sey dartey hain....
by Abcdarian on Jul 09, 2008 12:41 PM Permalink
I think you meant to say " Hindustan China ka hai , Bush ka Nahin" Typographical error. Do you want to change ?
RE:Karat jaisa kahtey hain vaisa kertey hain, Nahin kisi sey dartey hain....
by Guest on Jul 09, 2008 12:47 PM Permalink
Bengali always throw knife on back ..really not reliable.....Sardar always fight at front and very much reliable....LEFT mein dum hota to govt. mein rahte hue kuch karte ..... Support withdraw karke apni dual characteristic ko prove kiya hai... Wherever bengali works communism get starts............I suggest all Bengali think in broadway and as indian ...not as bengali always........
BJP is the only party who can rule the country. Congress is a useless party. This congress will not come into power in near future i.e. atleast in 25 years time. No leader, nothing and a baseless party.
UPA will not go to vienna without parliament aproval (technically not required) Manmohan will not behave the Vajpayee way, who went to UN to declare unilateral moratorium on nuclear tests without informing any Indians
RE:Why Advani so frantic?? take rest for a while
by Upadrasta PardhaSaradhi on Jul 09, 2008 12:34 PM Permalink
South Indian, Correct ur words, Vajpeeyi convenyed a all party meeting and congress led by pranab mukherjee attended that meeting and that meetign decided to support the Govt and then we went to UN. Get ur facts right before commenting. Dont think u only knows history. if u dont like BJP, show that in some other forum, but dont spread wrong things.
RE:Why Advani so frantic?? take rest for a while
by tamil on Jul 09, 2008 12:38 PM Permalink
gr8 Upadrasta PardhaSaradhi did Congress supported that in that all party meeting
RE:RE:Why Advani so frantic?? take rest for a while
by Upadrasta PardhaSaradhi on Jul 09, 2008 12:39 PM Permalink
Yes, of course. Go back and study the history.
RE:Why Advani so frantic?? take rest for a while
by South Indian on Jul 09, 2008 12:50 PM Permalink
Upadrasta will eat his own words if go for "history"!!! Congress publicly asked BJP who gave them the power or authority to declare moratorium!!! Nobody from BJP offer any answer. You are on a very weak wicket..
RE:Why Advani so frantic?? take rest for a while
by tamil on Jul 09, 2008 12:42 PM Permalink
hav u ever heard BJP as postive opposition supported any deal? except crying for all steps
RE:Why Advani so frantic?? take rest for a while
by All Right on Jul 09, 2008 12:51 PM Permalink
:-) Have you heard Congress taking "everyone" into confidene, which is the precursor to that support?... I mean, forget BJP, their own "supporters" quit on their high handedness..
Boss co-operation is requested and attained, NOT demanded.. :-)
RE:Why Advani so frantic?? take rest for a while
by South Indian on Jul 09, 2008 12:40 PM Permalink
You said!! Congress supported the ruling govt when it felt that we should be united in front of international community, that too on a serious issue like nuc tests (even though congress was opposed to the timing).. and remember it was congress which planned everything in advance and set everything right..
then who told you that supporting govt was giving support to whatever bjp do? did congress aprove vajpayee's moratorium plans? never! congress later publicly questioned BJP, who gave them the authority to declare so and till today no BJP man dare to answer!!
RE:Why Advani so frantic?? take rest for a while
by Upadrasta PardhaSaradhi on Jul 09, 2008 12:48 PM Permalink
Govt should try to build a consensus with the political parties especially in the opposition benches about the main features of the Indo-US nuclear deal. But Congress even doesnt care about showing what is there in the deal and this PM is taking this as a personal prestige without thinking about nation's future prospects.
Govt is not even ready to tell wt is there in the deal to their own alies who are with them for the last 4 years. They are saying they will prove the majority in the parliament and then go ahead with the deal.
Is Congress trying to call a all-party meeting? conduct a meeting and explain ur point. its a different matter whether all agrees or not.
Today Congress is not considering anybody and trying to explain what is there in the deal. Thats where the issue is. Nobody opposes it, but wanted to see the final agreement details.
RE:Why Advani so frantic?? take rest for a while
by South Indian on Jul 09, 2008 12:55 PM Permalink
Upadrasta is not sure of anyhing at all.. now he says all party meeting is the issue.. if i remember right congress in fact had a couple already and none of the BJP or communists attended it with some purpose.. it was discussed in parliament... the summary was given..
RE:RE:Why Advani so frantic?? take rest for a while
by All Right on Jul 09, 2008 12:57 PM Permalink
Boss... holding discussion, and providing information, are two separate things...
e.g. you are writing so many messages, but they convey nothing... :-) So we reject this meetings you are holding with us.. :-)
RE:Why Advani so frantic?? take rest for a while
by All Right on Jul 09, 2008 12:36 PM Permalink
:-) But at least he kept his allies informed... :-)
Congress is not capable of even doing that... and by the way as Mr. Pranab has so clearly articulated, sensitive information can only be given if you are part of government...
Were all Indians part of government?. . I doubt it.. :-) :-)
RE:Why Advani so frantic?? take rest for a while
by Upadrasta PardhaSaradhi on Jul 09, 2008 12:38 PM Permalink
Wt is so secret about it that prevents to share with all Indians? All Govt deals need to be shared with the people unless there is somethign that smells against the people and u r thinking that people may not agree.
RE:Why Advani so frantic?? take rest for a while
by S Shrikanth on Jul 09, 2008 12:51 PM Permalink
This means they are hiding something which the public will catch. They are trying to benefit somebody at nation's expense.
If it is a civilian deal then countrymen must know about it. Why to hide it?
all these people who have been writing so vociferously about the deal have to be really shaken up. do any one of these know exactly what is the nuclear deal and what are the contents of it? if not why not go by the intellegent people who have experience and expertise in the field and know what exactly the deal is meant for. high time we learn to give credit where it is required than to go behind silly differences ..
Surely there is suspense in this whole story! I cant think of Congress (with current leaders) or for that matter any party in India putting national interest before self interest. There is surely some "hidden agenda behind this nuke deal". Surely this will get uncovered and I hope it gets uncovered before the damage is done.
BJP see a ray of hope to bring down the govt and they see this deal issue an oppurtunity. they were frantically runing here and there all these 4 years.. and now since they see an opurtunity, they dont actually care whether it hurts the nation or not
RE:Oppurtunism
by South Indian on Jul 09, 2008 12:34 PM Permalink
this issue is not about 2009 elections or 2020 elections. It is about indias long term interest and getting rid of nuc isolation. it is about grabbing opurtunity.
so you sit there worrying about 2009 eletions and 2011 elections.. i am not bothered...
RE:Oppurtunism
by All Right on Jul 09, 2008 12:40 PM Permalink
You are anyway not bothered about linking what you said, and what I am replying to you...
Don't bother understanding this either... it's beyond your limited comprehension anyway..
I see a lot of blogs here blaming BJP. The Game was started by Congress and Ended by the Leftists. Y blaming BJP. BJP is only playing the role of Opposition. They are not aginst this deal. They are against some sections of the deal which prohibit India from doing nuclear Test. I feel this concern is genuine. We are interested in deal with US but US cannot dictate its own term on our security concerns. Some guys here simply out of hatred are poewing venom of caste, creed religion etc on BJP which i think is unfair.
RE:BJP mistake
by All Right on Jul 09, 2008 12:32 PM Permalink
Is that what they are saying?... You should increase your general awareness South Indian..
So many people here are jumping up and down without understanidng what BJP and ADWANI says. BJP & ADWANI doesnt have a problem. He is not opposing the deal, he wants a clear cut discussion on this deal about the positives and negatives in the parliament, which is the highest house in the country. If parliament is not taken into consideration, this agreement has no value.
you should try to build a consensus with the political parties especially in the opposition benches about the main features of the Indo-US nuclear deal.
FYI, BJP is the one who started negotiations for this Neuclear deal. BJP is always clear that Politics shouldnt effect the long-term foreign and economic policies of the nation.
Every one is clear that this deal is beneficial for India, but only thing people wanted to know is what clauses we have that can hurt India in the future. Thats the basic bottomline point here and every common man in India have the right to know whats there in that agreement, easpecially the clauses that effects in the future.
We need answers what happens if India do a nuclear test in the future? Will this agreement prevents it? or there is any way where India can negotiate?
Until and unless this is explained in public atleast in parliament , you can not have such agreements
RE:Problem
by Leoorn on Jul 09, 2008 12:29 PM Permalink
All BJP wants is to some how let the deal slip thru congress hands and they hope to gain control of the government after the election and make the deal and start saying India Shining ... BJP perfect Oppurtunist ... it is clearly seen when advani played religious cards after his talk abt. inflation didnt click when he launched his election campign ... the same happened with Modi in Gujarat also ...
