No discussion is needed. Deploy the army and tear any possible anti indian forces and declare kashmir as a part of india. Start development. Kashmir now understand only one language "Shoot at sight". Start feeding hindus there and try to spread as many muslims as they can. If congress or any other can not do it then Plz send "Narendra Modi". I think he is the only capable person to create development and discipline in the state
RE:Huhuhu
by Falcon on Jul 10, 2008 03:22 AM Permalink
Declare Kashmir as part of India. I never knew Kashmir was an Independent entity. What is the fight about then.
RE:Huhuhu
by SEETA on Jul 10, 2008 09:53 AM Permalink
better you ask Advani and vajpayee why they sent terrorist Modi to kashmir during bjp govt. Modi already declared terrorist by USA.
EITHER Indian govt.should say that kashmir is not a part of india,or should scrap article 370. why special status ? PURE PSeUDO SECULARISM.either you are not sure that kashmir belongs to india.this article370 is alienating kashmir people and making them communal(see the protest against amarnath shrine and killing of yatris).day is not far when all states will want to come under article 370. those gandhi-nehru duo ruined this nation.with these kind of people india was doomed from the beginning.all separatists should be given kala pani and treated like america is treating terrorists in guatemala bay.also the the pok should be demanded and declared that whosoever do not want to live in india should move to pakistan.indira gandhi also committed a big blunder in 1971 by not capturing pok when there was a golden chance.
Salute! Writing such nonsense is extremely difficult. Only top order idiots can do it.
Kashmir was accessed to India by an Agreement of Accession signed between the Hindu King of Kashmir & Indian Govt. The Hindu king wanted a special status for Kashmir & demanded it in the terms of agreement!
The Hindu king signed the agreement out of majburi. He actually wanted independant Kashmir & was against merger with India.
He was a Hindu king. Shove this statement properly in your ears!
RE:ARTICLE 370
by Raj on Jul 10, 2008 01:03 AM Permalink
Dude the guy to even think like is not just a top order fool but a terrorist himself.
Rocker dude, There is nothing to decide. Decide with who. There is no Kashmiri people left to talk. Its all Indian terrotery and also waiting for bihari like me to go in with cows and guns and tame the unwanted.
Article 370 neverr existed then nor will manifest morrow.
nandu and raj,you two in fact are top order idiots or in fact jehadis in hindu name.don't you undersatand sarcasm?have you read my full mail or you are drunk.i am saying that kashmir is in india and article 370 be scrapped or you are congi type pseudo secular.fools will always consider others as fools.read full mail and bihari raj,get some education.
RE:RE:ARTICLE 370
by rocker on Jul 10, 2008 01:25 AM Permalink
you jehadi,i am talking of today's communal muslim of kashmir.article 370 can be scrapped today in a similaer way it was given.
RE:RE:RE:ARTICLE 370
by Praveen PG on Jul 10, 2008 02:39 AM Permalink
Ha Ha.. and you are not a communalist... What a secular minded person! Thank god, India does not have too many secular minded people of this kind.
RE:ARTICLE 370
by Mukund Thatte on Aug 25, 2008 11:51 AM Permalink
why to blame only gandhi, nehru and indira ? even Bajpai govet could not do it in 6 years ! apart article 370, Bajpai could not even teach a lesson to paki in the manner & in a way they understands! should Bajpai & his team be sent to kala pani and treated like the terrorist in guatemala bay as u have suggested?
RE:ARTICLE 370
by JB on Jul 10, 2008 08:33 AM Permalink
Article 370 should be scraped and any Indian should be allowed to buy a land or settle in the Kashmir like they are free to settle anywhere in the India .
That would resolve this issue as there would be more Indians as compared to so called "Kashmiri".
Muslims believes that Kashmir is unfinished agenda of Partition so be it, this time we must exchange population all Muslims should leave India and settle in Pakistan and Kashmir proportionately and Hindus Sikhs and Buddhists can come to India. That is the only realistic way of achieving permanent peace and stability in the subcontinent.
other wise we will have many Kashmirs in India because only condition of separate state/country is non-Hindu majority of that reason as we know from the past and present.
RE:Permanent Solution
by Secular india on Jul 31, 2008 02:44 AM Permalink
Falcon -->>"Again a radical thought" Where it was implemented? please enlighten me
Kashmiris (i.e., Muslim Jihadists): We want to merge with Porkistan
That is out of question
Then, no need to talk with us- Kashmir belongs to mooslems, Hindus out.
That is all one will ever get out of any dialogues. What use is talking? Time to take action- dismantle stupid article 370, boot the Kashmiri muslims into Azad kashmir, andif Porkistan wants to fight- nuke'em.
i think we must kill the separatist leaders like Yasin Malik, Shabbir Shah, Syed Ali Shah Gilani,Mirwaiz Farooq etc immediately and repeating same again with their new leaders and after few time the kashmiri people will be left without any leader to allow and their moral will be grounded... nutshell "DONT LEAVE ANY SEPARATIST LEADER ALIVE to leade them"
RE:Kashmir Solution......
by Raj on Jul 10, 2008 01:07 AM Permalink
absolutely right. You don't say kill. You should say removal of anti state details. That would imply all leaders and their followers.
If you want to do it politically right, then all these people are called "anti state details".
RE:Kashmir Solution......
by Falcon on Jul 10, 2008 03:23 AM Permalink
Again a radical thought ,implemented many times in history but never successful.
They are worthless anyways. Lets repopulate bihari people again in Kashmir. Believe me, this time around we make Kashmor free of problem. There is problem only if Kashmiri people are there. We will push them into pakistan, and will take Kashmir by our cows and guns.
RE:F the Kashmiri people
by JB on Jul 10, 2008 08:38 AM Permalink
Rak didn't mean the original Kashmiri (Pundits) , he meant the so called Kashmiri (intruders ).
RE:F the Kashmiri people
by ann on Jul 09, 2008 11:53 PM Permalink
Raj is absolutely right. Kashmiri hindus are laid back and too nice for their own good. We need aggressive people in Kashmir to fight these "oh we want to kill everybody" muslims. If it takes Biharis to do that they go for it.
RE:F the Kashmiri people
by Raj on Jul 10, 2008 12:59 AM Permalink
Actually. Enough is enough. Seem enough of muslim fools. Let them run around their mosques only if one stands.
No deal on Kashmir, No deal for their Haj piligrim c rap. We need to just shun these petty terrorist in Kashmir. Kashmir belongs not to Kashmiri people it belongs to Indians.
Now let them do whatever they want and we wil do what is good for India. If try to talkk sense, these mullah brian washed throw back will not understand any way. We just ignore them and wack them when needed so we keep the foolish ducks in a row.
RE:F the Kashmiri people
by Ashish Koul on Jul 09, 2008 11:51 PM Permalink
i totally agree with your view Raj, we need to get a pied pier to drive these muslims away from india and then all problems will get resolved.
RE:F the Kashmiri people
by ssss on Jul 10, 2008 09:34 AM Permalink
Falc0n Ch00t1ya,
Again a K@tuaw@ thot.... This was successfully implemented in Iraq, Russia. We can do that in Kashmir. I assure you, it will work. If your relatives are there, take them and run away to Pak.... of I assure you, we will hire AIDS infected gays from all over the world and get your all K@tuawas s0d0m1sed across the board... and bury you with p1gs....
RE:RE:F the Kashmiri people
by JB on Jul 10, 2008 08:40 AM Permalink
do you have something different to say rather than repeating the same reply for every post. Has your life become so monotonous that you don't find something different to think ?
Hey Falcon, You sound like a different kind of whoever I have seen before. Few questions-- 1. What all of you were doing when Kashmiri Pandits were being massacred their women raped and they had to leave in their own country as refugees. Please don't give answer like Muslims were being massacred and all bcos you know thats not the truth. If that would have been the case number of Muslims will not be increasing everywhere. Anyway, 2. How do you explain a situation where there was not a single mosque in 15th century and now the place can't even find a some 50 hectares of land for one temple. Where do all the Hindus and temples gone. 3. How do you explain the scenario where Kashmir is contributing towards the center small fund where is getting bigger economic packages in return. Will anybody spend money on stepchildren? 4. Why is that whereever Muslims get in majority they want separate state. When they are minority they complain 1000 different things and keep increasing numbers creating headaches and once in majority want separate state. This is going on everywhere. Do you think you were a Muslim 600 years back if you are a Kashmiri.
RE:Few Questions
by Me on Jul 09, 2008 11:24 PM Permalink
Hi Friend, Why u r talking that only Kashmiris have suffered? Its the way of this world (God has made it that way) that whenever there is the change there will be suffering. Hence, change is always very unplesant. U can take example, when Mohd. Gauri & Mohd. Gaznavi attacked Saurashtra (Somnath Temple)lakhs of innocents were killed, lakhs were made slaves but that does not mean that locals of that region are should talk the way Kashmiri people are talking.Mugals invaded this country then also we respect all humans (any religion) just bcoz few are bad doesnot mean all are bad. Anyways, for Kashmir u people are misguided, it was not Indian army that claimed Kashmir during Independence.Actually, Afgan infiltrators due to PAK's ill will (bad intention),guidance & help had attacked Kashmir in 1947 and they were looting,raping & massacaring locals even in Srinagar.Then when King of Kashmir Hari Singh Rana signed agreemnt with India giving accesions,India Army acted. Sardar Patel was sucessful to throw them out till today's LOC but due to wrong act of Indian PM Nehru (An Kashmiri Pandit) who went to UN later & UN asked for ceasefire with permenante border as LOC.Sardar Patel had told Nehru to not to got to UN till entire Area is regained but rest is the history now.And if you speak about reality then Pandits are the original locals of Kashmir living since more than 200 years & rest have come, due to Muslim influenced kingdom surrounded to Kashmir Today it like Owners(Pandits) r ou
RE:RE:Few Questions
by Me on Jul 09, 2008 11:29 PM Permalink
Sorry, I wanted to say LOC as Temporary border yill UN settlement & in last line I meant Original local Kashmiris Pandits older than 2000 years or more are out because rest are the people due to Muslim influenced kingdom surrounded to Kashmir & hence, majority are from there. it is like owners are out of there home & tenants are Claiming.
RE:Few Questions
by Falcon on Jul 10, 2008 03:16 AM Permalink
Ans.1 Honestly it wasnt the sort of mass massacre or rapes as u have projected.Even Pandit groups will give you number which wont be more than 100-150 over these 20 years. Yes there were killings and that created a scare and they left the valley assisted by the Govt. or not is open to debate.But numbers don't matter ,even a single killing can scare a minuscule minority like Pandits and they had to leave their home and hearth which is very unfortunate. We can say the pandits left and the muslims did'nt stop them from going.How the sikhs stayed behind and are still there is also a fact hat cannot be denied. On individual basis people did try and help people to stay back and they did in some villages but for anyone to speak out in those days on any issue would have been disastrous for that individual. 2. The Hindu temples are still there but are in a state of negligence due to lack of maintainence. 3. If you have been to Kashmir and see the state of roads ,electricity and infrastructure overall you will also be baffled. So the money is going somewhere but surely not for development. 4. I think more to do with ethnic and regional aspirations than religion. Minorities I believe should be vocal to claim their rights. Blacks in America ause the same tactic. I know that till four generations back we have been muslims ,i will look into my family tree to let u know. it personally doesn't make a difference to me what my great great great grand pa was.
RE:Few Questions
by ssss on Jul 10, 2008 09:37 AM Permalink
K@tuawey Falc0n,
Of course it wont make a difference to you what ur grandpa was.... he was a terrorist like you... so, for a terrorists, nothing matters... just kill people...