What is happening in Kashmir is due to continuous violence created by terrorists and separatists. No violence is started first by Police or Army. They don't shoot first but only try stop it and have lost many soliders/Policemen in the proscess.Again these terrorists can not operate with out support of local people who are nothing but separatists people. Innocent Kashiri people have suffered lot and people who have encouraged violence are to be blamed for that . By creating violence and no peace in the valley, there is no development or economical development unlike elsewhere in India . Who will try invest in such a fearful atmosphere? Azadi means Progess- Economical,Social and Educational progress. By bringing religious sentiments there will never peace or progress in Kashmir. So called separatists or Pakistan minded are exploiting religious sentiments under Self determination or freedom. If they align with Pakistan they feel happy but will never become happy and nor can return to the present situation. Let some wise Kashmiri person study economical conditions in Pakistan vis a vis Rest of India.It is unfortunate that under the religious franzy people of Kashmir are made to suffer to achieve political aims without realizing long term consequences. Government must take firm and permanent stand that no discussion with any body who believes in violence.All discussions should start only after it is observed that no attack is being made futher on our security forces by terrorist.
Aaj samey aa gaya hai jab hum apne desh ko in deshdrohiyon se bachaye.Pm To hamara apni pm ki seat bachane main laga huan hai,janta ko apne chelo ke saat janta ko bhramit kar raha hai,jub usne apni sarkar bachane ke liye deshdrohi,chor,murderer ka saat le liya tub usse kya umeed rakhi ja sakti hai.Humain aaj apne Kashmir se le kar kanyakumari ke ek ek bhumi ke liye ladna hoga.Sarkar To aab baat ki sarkar reh gayi hai,Bharat main hi Bharat ka Jhanda Jalta hai aur sarkar chup hai.Humain aaj jagna hoga.Politics se aise loga ko hata kar sahi logo ko agle lok sabha chunav main bhejna hoga taki desh bach sakey.Jai Bharat.
abrogation of article 370 is a must for india, i will write the following things in support of that (1): its only the abrogation of 370 that will result in a secular india,coz only after the abrogation of 370 will there be a non polarisation of the society which in the present case is extremely polarised (2): Secondly if kashmiris are allowed in having land and properties all over india than y not an indian from some other state can have land and property and right to VOTE in kashmir.y cant he vote in kashmir. (3):is kashmir a part of india or INDIA a part of kashmir.this question needs to be answered coz J&K has its own constitution ,its own flag and its own assembly in addition to indias.does any other state enjoys the same status.the answer is a big NO.
RE:abrogation of 370 : A must for india
by sony kalloor on Aug 25, 2008 12:07 PM Permalink
Beacuse unlike other parts of India , Kashmir was made part of India on UN agreement that there shall be a plebisite in Kashmir and then the decession shall be made as to wheather Kashmir can be part of India. This would expain why Kashmir in not part of India in any international MAPs other than made in India. In other words Kashmir is a disputed territory and not part of the Indian Union as other wise publicised in India like other states.
When Maharaja of Kashmir signed the 'instrument of accession' because of which Kashmir officially became a part of India he was a desperate man. A king with his territory engulfed by foriegn invasion. He would have signed anything that India wanted. Then, how did this special status for Kashmir thing happened? Let us see, at the time of Independance Kashmir was ruled by a Pandit King and Indian prime minister also happens to be a Kashmiri Pandit. This special status thing (article 370) ensured Indians from other parts of India would not be able to settle down in Kashmir permenantly which means Pandits though minority would continue to remain a dominant community in the valley. The tragedy is what was meant to have protected the community actually went against them and what their great community leader(Nehru) and king did has actually have forced them to live as refugees. Just think why Nehru did not let Patel who integrated all the remaining princely states to handle this one coz this place happens to belong to the people of his CASTE. Yes just like many of our secularists Nehru, could have been a castist. The lesson is we have to eliminate Caste system at the earliest and only then we could unite to take on other challanges.
RE:why Article 370?
by Mohammed imran on Aug 25, 2008 12:15 PM Permalink
Parthasarty Appreciate at least you have some info though its also far from reality ! It is the then National Conference leader sheik Abdulla who opted for a pro India Stand which helped the Indian case of keeping kashmir with india. Nehru being a Paddit did not wanted Kashmir to go into pakistan either ! How ever it was also then agreed that the people of Kashmir would be given a free chance to decide where they eventually wanted to be under peaceful conditions, India had ensured hence there is no peace in kashmir !
Re: Re: why Article 370?
by anand sundararajan on Aug 29, 2008 10:04 AM Permalink
so you say that India helped Kashmir to he hub for all terror activities???
give me a break... its the international forces behind the kashmir militants... and please check out where they get the funding from... and what for... remember India is becoming too strong and growing ... China is not touchable by international forces... the soft and easy target is India...Like India you cannot see any other nation in this whole world. Unless the Muslim bodies in India does not talk to Kashmiris and ensure them that they will be more safe within India than asking for Aazadi. India has equal oppurtunity for Hindus, Muslims, Chirtians, Sikhs, Buddists & Jains. Virtually that's how Indians have come into existence. If India is spending money to ensure good life in Kashmir, then Pakistan & other like minded countries are ensuring that they will give double money to Kashmiris to ensure that they seek seperation so that they can freely do what they want.
RE:why Article 370?
by Ranjan Mishra on Aug 25, 2008 01:10 PM Permalink
Hamare tax paid money se khate ho aur hum se kehete ho baat... shame on u morons..
RE:why Article 370?
by sunil bhat on Jul 10, 2008 09:46 AM Permalink
well mr saibaskar u better know that it was maharaja who insisted on article 370 and moreover kashmir was independent state that time
RE:why Article 370?
by ashok badshah on Jul 10, 2008 11:05 AM Permalink
ONLY ONE THE ONLY SOLUTION FOR THIS a-370,IS THAT ALL NON-MUSLIMS OF INDIA SHOULD MARCH TO KASHMIR WITH BAG AND BAGGAGE,TAKE THE CHARGE OF THE LAND-ENTIRE KASHMIR,SOME DAY IT WILL BE LIKE THAT.PEOPLE MUST BE READY TO HANDLE THE INTERNAL RAILWAY SYSTEM INSIDE KASHMIR. ALL PEOPLE WILL FORGET CONGRESS,PDP OR NCP. IT NEEDS SACRIFICE LOCL DEBATES ARE REQUIRED TO ESTABLISHED ,AND PREPERATIONS ARE REQUIRED TO STARTED RT.KNOW.INDIA HAS 2nd.LARGEST POPULATION THEN SURVIVAL WILL BE FITTEST,ALL MUSLIMS WILL FORGET THEY HAVE BEEN DOING.IT IS PERHAPS SOLUTION FROM JANTA OF THE COUNTRY,ABOVE ANY GOVT,OR ANY CONSTITUTION OR LAW, SAME AS PDP DID.ONLY WE NEED FRONT LINE PUBLIC FORCE TO ESTABLISH REQUIREMENT OF THE NATION.PAKISTAN KNOWS THIS,THAT IS WHY IT IS JUST MAKING DOGS CRYING TO DIVERT INDIAN GOVT's ATTENTION.ALL LOKESABHA FAVOURED AFTER THE B-DASH WAS LIBRATED HISTORY WILL TEACH US.LET SEE FURTHE SENSITIVE REQUIREMENT OF SACRIFICE.
RE:RE:why Article 370?
by ashok badshah on Jul 10, 2008 11:10 AM Permalink
we need solutions not critics or comments, to our senses it is nowhere now,onwards.
RE:why Article 370?
by sunil koul on Jul 10, 2008 03:43 PM Permalink
Maharaja was not a pandit He was a Dogra . there is a lot of difference between a Dogra & Pandit
RE:why Article 370?
by JonBonJovi on Jul 12, 2008 09:58 AM Permalink
u nuts in that case Junagadh becomes a part of pakistan as its Dewan signed for pakistan. Patel did police action and then plebscite and since it was dominantly hindu state with muslim king,just opposite of kashmir,it was annexed on pretext of plebscite but when it comes to kahsmir elections can happen but not plebscite wheich nehru agreed to! Its not religion its ego its blatant badmashi simple plain fact go an check UN records for tht matter.ull get the reality!
Yes, we need to eliminate caste discrimination, and one of the ways to do that is to stop seeing caste everywhere, even when there is no reason to do so.
You perhaps are unaware of the contempt Mr. Nehru had for Hinduism.
You also seem to be unaware that Article 370 was not something that was arranged between Mr. Hari Singh and Mr. Nehru, but it was something that was insisted upon by Sheikh Abdullah, and surprise, Mr. Sardar Patel also, for his own reasons, extended support to it.
Please google history of article 370.
I am guessing that you are a follower of Mr. EVR, and so cannot miss any opportunity to comment against those Parpanaars and Paapadis. I request you to overcome that sort of thinking.
Please google ' When Kashmiri Pandits fled Islamic terror' The article published in Rediff describes the brutality Hindus suffered under Islamic barbarism and how they were forced to leave
RE:When Kashmiri Pandits fled Islamic terror
by JonBonJovi on Jul 12, 2008 10:00 AM Permalink
they got what they needed. they manipulated hari singh and nehru to join india when according to wishes of people he shud have gone to pakistan like hyderabad nizam and junagadh. They went for pak with hindu dominance u grabbed it its all ok but when hari singh does it its all ok! double standards
RE:When Kashmiri Pandits fled Islamic terror
by Guest on Aug 25, 2008 12:29 PM Permalink
i have seen that all educated muslims talk in favour of pakistan.what happened in 1947 and arround that is past.at present j&k is integrated part of india,therefore,any one who wants that j&k should be merged with pakistan will be considered as traitor and all muslims of india should know this.forthcoming time is very bad for muslims.they must beleive in pluralistic society otherwise be ready for complete elimination.
Re: When Kashmiri Pandits fled Islamic terror
by anand sundararajan on Aug 29, 2008 10:15 AM Permalink
Feeling in general is that Muslims now-a-days are more towards forming Islamic State ... and only way to achieve is to promote terrorism.. Jehad is just a fake. That is why the Muslims in rest of India have not spoken about Kashmir for past 61 years.
RE:When Kashmiri Pandits fled Islamic terror
by Manoj Kumar on Aug 25, 2008 06:54 PM Permalink
Wonderful joke. If they had joined with pakistan, now they would be ruined completely. They will slowly be one of the hunger and poverty struck state. Those who want kashmir to be merged with pakistan should pay india the amount that had been spent on them.... Will the pakistan govt ready to pay such a huge money. Will the pakistan government is ready to pay the money which they owe to india at the time of partition. The total amount worth Rs.300 crores that time which would have crossed some 30000 crores by now. If pakistan feels that india is their enemy, ask them to first pay the money and then fight. (Kindly, see the indian budget which will have a opening balance for this debt and that was recommended by gandhiji that time.)
Suppose bunch of Hindus were in Pakistan and they wanted to displace muslims would Pakistan tolerate that. Either they will be converted or shot. We Hindus have one country India and why can not we protect it. Why should be accepting and open minded to people who are talking advantage of our generosity. This is India where we live in peace. Take it or leave it and we do not have to be nice to you about that. Hindus and sikhs are living peacefully so what is their problem?
RE:Would Pakistan tolerate this nonsense
by SEETA on Jul 10, 2008 09:54 AM Permalink
better you ask Advani and vajpayee why not they sent terrorist Modi to kashmir during bjp govt. Modi already declared terrorist by USA.
RE:Would Pakistan tolerate this nonsense
by Sukhwinder Singh on Jul 10, 2008 12:23 PM Permalink
Than what about Shive He was the rapist and Krishna too you fool mind your language
Re: Would Pakistan tolerate this nonsense
by anand sundararajan on Aug 29, 2008 10:09 AM Permalink
So you believe USA? That is not funny but foolish. If Modi is terrorist then what you will call the real terrorist... Again you check with US English dictionary and let me know so that I can update....
RE:Would Pakistan tolerate this nonsense
by JonBonJovi on Jul 12, 2008 10:01 AM Permalink
bunch??? u call 80% population bunch? call ur pundits some bunch that shud have brunch in dehli with hari singhs family!
