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No confidence motion
by pat ram on Jul 08, 2008 06:53 PM  Permalink 

The congress survives or not the no confidence vote they can face the people better during election than the left as they have to be very defensive.

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Who is right?
by unni krishnan nair on Jul 08, 2008 06:28 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies


I am not a fan of the Left. Infact I have seen their destructive politics in Kerala.
But look at this like this.

If you are running a joint venture or a partnership business, what you will do?
Do you or can you do something that your partner does not want to do even though it may reap you lots of profits? You know that would be suicidal. You definitely will have a Partnership deed. In this case you have a Common Minimum Programme. Is the Nuclear Deal part of the CMP. If it was then you can hold the left for this ‘irresponsible’ behaviour.

And then about the good of the country. What is the good of the country?
It is a question of perception. We need energy no doubt. There are people who argue that nuclear energy is not something we can trust our Govt. with. Remember Chernobyl? Remember Bhoopal Gas tragedy? I am told still the victims of Bhoopal tragedy are suffering and they are yet to get compensation or good medical help.

Now is Left Right or Congress Right?

Left is wrong because they should have taken this stand when it knew Congress is going for this.
And Congress is wrong because they should know that they are running a coalition Govt. and to precipitate the matter like this and blaming one of its allies knowing full well that Left is not going to support anything with America is na?.



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RE:Who is right?
by pat ram on Jul 08, 2008 06:45 PM  Permalink
Left is against the deal not because of the things you are quoting. Only because it has a America label. They are withdrawing support on nuclear deal and not on spiralling prices, oil crisis etc. Funny.

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RE:Who is right?
by sujith kumar on Jul 08, 2008 06:56 PM  Permalink
Communism is a social virus and anti growth party who paint their houses red with blood of poor. They have ruined Kerala. Throw them out of this country....


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RE:Who is right?
by unni krishnan nair on Jul 08, 2008 07:19 PM  Permalink
Pat Ram:

I have stated that Left is going out because of American factor only.

KRN

M in the CMP is definitely minimum. And price control and economy is certainly a minimum thing in any Governance. And a major shift in the Foreign policy can not be Minimum thing.

A plane crash is no reason for stopping planes. But a disaster like Chernobyl and Bhoopal can not be compared with an aircrash. And our Govts. both Central and state have not come clean on Bhoopal tragedy. In many cases the sufferers have been people who have not been beneficiaries like the Urban lot but poor illiterate masses from the ghettos.

And the bogey of Communalism is something almost all political parties including Congress play all the time. Now SP is telling that Muslims are supporting the Nuclear deal as if any major decision is taken only if it is acceptable to Muslims and nobody else.

Sujith

You are right. It is time we throw out Communism. But who will do that?
Will the people who claim to be the most educated do it? Or will the people of Bhadralok who claim to be the most intellectual do it?


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RE:Who is right?
by PKN on Jul 08, 2008 06:47 PM  Permalink
First of all lets agree that no one is right.
1. The CMP which was drawn up in 2004 cannot be expected to have predicted everything that would happen . That is why the M stands for minimum and not maximum in the CMP.
2. If the Congress says that fighting 12 % inflation is not in the CMP so Left cannot object would Karat and Co accept that !
3. Chernobyl is good reason to ensure that more safe guards are required but not justifaction for stopping use of nuclear power stations . A plane crash doesnot justify stopping all air-travel.
4. The Left promised the Congress that they would discuss the issue and try to sort them out . But instead of that they stuck to their only concern that India would end up becoming an unwilling ally of the US . That is what precipitated the crisis. That is what finally forced the Congress to ask the left to 'take a walk'
In this deal the Left is wrong and worse still immoral by attempting to bring is bring communalsim by suggesting that issues like Muslim sentiments against USA .








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Left is
by Sathish N on Jul 08, 2008 06:08 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

more patriotic than the Congress. Left should support BJP and throw the Italian out of this country.

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RE:Left is
by nilesh jain on Jul 08, 2008 06:16 PM  Permalink
good joke. ha....ha...ha

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RE:Left is
by Sathish N on Jul 08, 2008 06:18 PM  Permalink
Keep laughing.. You never know when your as s gets burnt.

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Indian acceptance of CTBT
by Dipak Bose on Jul 08, 2008 06:04 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

John McCain and Barak Obama, presumptive Republican and Democratic presidential nominees, may have previously backed the nuclear deal with India but the new US President may link its full implementation to Indian acceptance of CTBT, which Bush administration has staunchly opposed, a former senior American diplomat says.
“Both (McCain and Obama) supported the Bush-Singh deal.

However, it is unclear whether either, as President, would simply endorse and implement it in its present form,” says Strobe Talbott, former president Bill Clinton’s special envoy for the US-Indian dialogue of 1998-2000.

“The winner of the election might, in some fashion, link full implementation of the deal to Indian acceptance of the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty, which the Bush administration has staunchly opposed,” Talbott says.



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RE:Indian acceptance of CTBT
by Bharat Kr on Jul 08, 2008 08:06 PM  Permalink
This is another US blackmailing tactic. Why bother so much? US needs India more than India needs US. India is the worlds' second largest polulated nation and market. We offer a market of 400 million middle classes. Fellow Bharatiya, have confidence and don't be slavish in mentality.

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RE:Goons will be in Arabian Sea
by doc_cent on Jul 08, 2008 05:57 PM  Permalink
Whatever you have said sounds like "Vidhva Vilaap"

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RE:Goons will be in Arabian Sea
by adrgdr on Jul 08, 2008 06:49 PM  Permalink
Does sahadevan still believe even lefts fart smell jasmine?

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CPI-M - bangladeshi party
by kavitha on Jul 08, 2008 05:26 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Deal or no deal, just kick out communists out of India

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RE:CPI-M - bangladeshi party
by YASAR IMRAN on Jul 08, 2008 05:45 PM  Permalink
Don't worry Kavitha; Tomorrow they will do lot of "Loose Motion" while being kicking out from Lok Sabha.

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RE:CPI-M - bangladeshi party
by Dipak Bose on Jul 08, 2008 05:39 PM  Permalink
Which country are you from???? Nepal or Pakistan or Sri Lanka. Go back there.


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RE:CPI-M - bangladeshi party
by kamal kant on Jul 08, 2008 05:35 PM  Permalink
what about samajwadi

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who (Politicians) scares for India? all scare for themselve.
by bababulandlangotawala on Jul 08, 2008 05:25 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

In this country no one scare for the country. every individual politicians, bureaucrats and so called nationalists (...who so ever)only want to full their bank balance, either by selling the state property or by doing any job which is not in the favor of the country.A country which is already facing so many problems on many fronts, even in the strong opposition from many surrounding countries, but who scares for the country.now once again another election is on the front of our door. we have to choose same politician, same parties.....


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RE:who (Politicians) scares for India? all scare for themselve.
by Siddique Ansari on Jul 08, 2008 05:52 PM  Permalink
Dear langotawala - politicians are interested only in coverting their langots in to starched dhotis from the Mafatlal stable.

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Left and nationalism
by govind prabhu on Jul 08, 2008 05:18 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Left were against quit India movement. They were of the opinion that India should support British. Not part of our freedom struggle to any large or noticeable measure. According to them it was India that attacked China in 1962. Television was for projecting Indira Gandhi. Colour television to be boycotted as people were dying of hunger. Tillers were to be banned as it was against agricultural labor. Computer was to be banned as it was to make typists jobless. Cola to be banned as it is from Multinational. Abdul Kalam should not be given a second term as he was anti national. Indian History is what the leftist write. Nationalization of loss making public sector unit will not be allowed as it will affect their major vote bank. Which poor fellow ever voted for Indian Marxist. They wont join any government but take undue advantage with their 59 seats mainly from three pockets in India.They will not allow airports to be modernized as it will make the sweeper there jobless. They could with impunity build offices in Moonnar and force others to vacate.
And we elected them.

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RE:Left and nationalism
by Dipak Bose on Jul 08, 2008 05:41 PM  Permalink
Savarker, Ambedkar, Gandhi, Nehru, Hindu Mahasava, RSS, all were against the Quit India Movement: read history. They all supported the British, otherwise why Birla-Bajaj gave so much money to Gandhi?



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RE:Left and nationalism
by sujith kumar on Jul 08, 2008 06:55 PM  Permalink
Communism is a social virus and anti growth party who make their houses red with blood of poor. They have ruined Kerala. Throw them out of this country....

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RE:Left and nationalism
by Alfred Rakesh on Jul 08, 2008 05:38 PM  Permalink
Abdul kalam was pulled out bcoz sonia ji didnt wanted him to be over there.Its better if you read the back issues of the news papers instead of coming here and telling all the rubbish

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RE:Left and nationalism
by Suresh T on Jul 08, 2008 05:28 PM  Permalink
nice nonsense

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Hanged till death
by manoj singh on Jul 08, 2008 05:16 PM  Permalink 

The present government and supporting partners should be hanged till death.

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what will be BJP's agenda on this nuclear deal?
by bababulandlangotawala on Jul 08, 2008 05:07 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

The BJP under the captainship of sri Adwani india's biggest (?) (who says that he does not know, what is going on in his country as being the home minister of the country, in the kabul plane hijack case), whether he will deny to sign on nuclear deal, after coming in next expected parliamentry election, only god knows and america knows.Surely after signing the deal he will say that he did not know about the paper on which deal he has signed with USA.

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RE:what will be BJP's agenda on this nuclear deal?
by debasi bhattacharyya on Jul 08, 2008 05:09 PM  Permalink
After blunder mistake by CPIM to support Congress since 1973 and their anti national slogan and activities since china war. They are taking a right decision to save India from slave of America. Just like Monkey singh is slave of Madam R. Sonia (R means not Rajeev it is Raino)


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