RE:Kadidal - pl help Kashmiri pandits NOT jihadi human bombs
by bnsl on Jul 09, 2008 04:29 AM Permalink
Pandit Sarwanand Premi, 80-year-old poet, and his son were kidnapped, tortured, their eyes gouged out, and hanged to death. A Kashmiri Pandit nurse working at the Soura Medical College Hospital in Srinagar was gang-raped and then beaten to death. Another woman was abducted, raped and sliced into bits and pieces at a sawmill. In villages and towns across the Kashmir valley, terrorist hit lists have been floating about. All the names are of Kashmiri Pandits. With no government worth its name, the administration having collapsed and disappeared, the police nowhere to be seen, despondency sets in. As the night of January 19, 1990, wears itself out, despondency gives way to desperation. And tens of thousands of Kashmiri Pandits across the valley take a painful decision: to flee their homeland to save their lives from rabid jihadis. Thus takes place a 20th century Exodus.
RE:RE:Kadidal - pl help Kashmiri pandits NOT jihadi human bombs
by bnsl on Jul 09, 2008 05:00 AM Permalink
Muslims often say "Pandits left on their own - no one forced them" It is the height of dishonesty to say this. Lying is deeply rooted in Islamic culture. It is part of their religion. They call it Taqiyah.
RE:Kadidal - pl help Kashmiri pandits NOT jihadi human bombs
by Yaqoot Mir on Jul 09, 2008 02:29 AM Permalink
Here we go again another Indian standing up for Pandits listen...Kashmir is a Muslim majority area and ground reality is it is by character and demography an area where pandits chose to relocate from, admit it, NO ONE FORCED the pandits to move they moved on their own.....
RE:RE:Kadidal - pl help Kashmiri pandits NOT jihadi human bombs
by bnsl on Jul 09, 2008 04:28 AM Permalink
Srinagar, January 19, 1990. Jagmohan arrives to take charge as governor of Jammu and Kashmir. Farooq Abdullah, whose pathetic, whimpering, snivelling government has all but ceased to exist and has gone into hiding, resigns and goes into a sulk. Curfew is imposed as a first measure to restore some semblance of law and order. But it fails to have a deterrent effect. Throughout the day, Jammu and Kashmir Liberation Front and Hizbul Mujahideen terrorists use public address systems at mosques to exhort people to defy curfew and take to the streets. Masked men, firing from their Kalashnikovs, march up and down, terrorising cowering Pandits who, by then, have locked themselves in their homes. As evening falls, the exhortations become louder and shriller. Three taped slogans are repeatedly played the whole night from mosques: 'Kashmir mei agar rehna hai, Allah-O-Akbar kehna hai' (If you want to stay in Kashmir, you have to say Allah-O-Akbar); 'Yahan kya chalega, Nizam-e-Mustafa' (What do we want here? Rule of Shariah); 'Asi gachchi Pakistan, Batao roas te Batanev san' (We want Pakistan along with Hindu women but without their men). In the preceding months, 300 Hindu men and women, nearly all of them Kashmiri Pandits, had been slaughtered ever since the brutal murder of Pandit Tika Lal Taploo, noted lawyer and BJP national executive member, by the JKLF in Srinagar on September 14, 1989. Soon after that, Justice N K Ganju of the Srinagar high court was shot dead. Pandit Sarwanand Pr
RE:Kadidal - pl help Kashmiri pandits NOT jihadi human bombs
by Om on Jul 09, 2008 02:45 AM Permalink
Why did you chulni ke tope decided to relocate instead of Hindus in Hindu Nation ?? Saale you are backstabbers
RE:Kadidal - pl help Kashmiri pandits NOT jihadi human bombs
by jet on Jul 09, 2008 02:34 AM Permalink
Yaqoot Mir, whome who r trying to fool. no one forced .? hahaha.. how stupidly U jihadis talk lies..Who killed those 100s of pandits in villages by shooting at gun point.?
RE:RE:Kadidal - pl help Kashmiri pandits NOT jihadi human bombs
by bnsl on Jul 09, 2008 04:27 AM Permalink
Notices are pasted on doors of Pandit houses, peremptorily asking the occupants to leave Kashmir within 24 hours or face death and worse. Some are more lucid: "Be one with us, run, or die!"
RE:Kadidal - pl help Kashmiri pandits NOT jihadi human bombs
by linux linux on Jul 09, 2008 02:45 AM Permalink
Yaqoot, The constitution is to protect the minority. The day constitution ceases to exist, heavens help muslims in rest of India for no one in India will.
RE:RE:Kadidal - pl help Kashmiri pandits NOT jihadi human bombs
by bnsl on Jul 09, 2008 04:17 AM Permalink
Srinagar, January 4, 1990. Aftab, a local Urdu newspaper, publishes a press release issued by Hizb-ul Mujahideen, set up by the Jamaat-e-Islami in 1989 to wage jihad for Jammu and Kashmir's secession from India and accession to Pakistan, asking all Hindus to pack up and leave. Another local paper, Al Safa, repeats this expulsion order. In the following days, there is near chaos in the Kashmir valley with Chief Minister Farooq Abdullah and his National Conference government abdicating all responsibilities of the State. Masked men run amok, waving Kalashnikovs, shooting to kill and shouting anti-India slogans. Reports of killing of Hindus, invariably Kashmiri Pandits, begin to trickle in; there are explosions; inflammatory speeches are made from the pulpits of mosques, using public address systems meant for calling the faithful to prayers. A terrifying fear psychosis begins to take grip of Kashmiri Pandits. Walls are plastered with posters and handbills, summarily ordering all Kashmiris to strictly follow the Islamic dress code, prohibiting the sale and consumption of alcoholic drinks and imposing a ban on video parlours and cinemas. The masked men with Kalashnikovs force people to re-set their watches and clocks to Pakistan Standard Time. Shops, business establishments and homes of Kashmiri Pandits, the original inhabitants of the Kashmir valley with a recorded cultural and civilisational history dating back 5,000 years, are marked out. Notices are pasted on doors of Pandi
RE:Kadidal - pl help Kashmiri pandits NOT jihadi human bombs
by bnsl on Jul 09, 2008 04:15 AM Permalink
This was posted by a Kashmiri Hindu woman on Sulekha: Posted by : Blown ~ May 17 2007 4:10PM "This is the most brutal and intolerant of all religions, my brother was killed by Islamic militants, along with my family we were given an ultimatum to leave Kashmir or convert to Islam in 24 hours, and we preferred to leave because we have some self respect remaining with us. There is a big misconception that common Islamic people aren’t bad, this is the biggest lie, it was the neighbors who were constantly persuading us to convert to Islam. I prefer to die like Guru Arjun Singh, rather than convert to this religion of killers."
How can everyone on this board assume that people held in Guantanamo are terrorists? They are 'alleged' terrorists and are being subjected to torture without any hope of a fair trial. The US government is a supposed to be a beacon to the world on human rights but its policies are being violated in its own backyard.
We Indians have no respect for human life, maybe because there are so many of us. If someone does respect human life and wants to follow the path of justice (like Mr Kadilal) people on this board taunt him. What a shame!
How would any one you like to be locked up in a foreign land without any charges, trial or mode of redressal and be tortured?
RE:Assumption
by Saturnina Dyer on Jul 09, 2008 02:35 AM Permalink
There is no proof that any detainees at Guantanamo have been tortured except the lies told by the detainees. What were these detainees (mostly non-Afghans including a Canadian) doing on the battlefields of Afghanistan fighting against and killing American troops? Our mobs in India would have slaughtered such terrorists without hesitation!
All detainees in Guantanamo should be set free. However, they should first be castrated so that they won't produce any more terrorists like themselves!
RE:Guantanamo Detainees
by Yaqoot Mir on Jul 09, 2008 02:31 AM Permalink
Castrated for what crime? they are even by own admission of the US detainees? show me a law that says you can detain someone without proving anything and castrate them prior to release? IT IS GROSS INJUSTICE and will only produce more terrorism when they are released and narrate their nighmares to their collegues my freind..the US has unleashed a never ending war an informal war where enemies are not clear and objectives ill defined.
RE:Guantanamo Detainees
by hithard on Jul 09, 2008 02:43 AM Permalink
Mir, These are all RSS bred dogs and there is no point is throwing stones at these dogs. They will bark if they see any word associated with Islam or Muslim. Let them bark and we will enjoy them. Their barking will not deter our faith. Come on RSS bred dogs. start your anti-islam barking...come on come on else your master will not feed u with any more biscuits.
RE:Guantanamo Detainees
by Saturnina Dyer on Jul 09, 2008 06:56 AM Permalink
YM - Show me a law that allows Islamic terrorists to indulge in suicide-murders of innocent civilians, and permits treating of humans like animals by cutting their throats, etc. Terrorists do not deserve any human rights, and castration may be too good for them. H - Kindly do not display your low culture and mentality on this forum by calling anyone "dogs".
"Though Kadidal took up pre-med courses at Duke in the hope that he could make a difference as a physician, he soon found out he was not interested in medicine"
Ha! I guessed it as soon as I saw the title'Lawyer'. Invariably, every lawyer was a pre-med during college years. The very first exam in organic chemistry and physics, they get to the bottom of the class, and then they drop out any idea of Medicine- and become lawyers. I have seen this with so many, I do not even have to guess. The reason why lawyers always sue medical professionals- you got it.
What did this MD wanna-be lawyer do with his life? Free the terrorists. That is his achievement.This should not be on redfiff. news.
Please keep these stupid lawyers in India, where it is ok to get killed as Hindu, but all hell breaks lose because Hindus retaliate in Gujrat. What has this kafir lawyer got to gain by defending jihadists out to kill Hindus, Jews & Christians? one Gitmo detainee let loose went back to Pakistan and started throwing bombs almost immediately. Dont turn US into Hindu please !
RE:Dont turn US to India
by Yaqoot Mir on Jul 09, 2008 02:33 AM Permalink
WRONG AGAIN YOU BIASE DHINDU only .5% of the detainees in GITMO are Pakistanis, infact as a percentage there are MORE INDIAN Muslims in there than Pakistani Muslims, tells youa lot of who is breeding these guys.