Well done Dr. In 1991 in a similar situation when India's foreign exchange reserves was only 1 billion doller or 7 days impoert only and severe economic crisis due to mismanagement and misrule of successive gov from 1989 to 1991 .the same Dr.under leadership of P.V Narsimha Rao save India by liberising our economy with a minority gov and a tacit suppoert of Atal Behari Bajpai of BJP.and the result we have seen after 17 years of ent liberisation .India is poised to become economic superpower with in another 5 years from now .This nuclear power deal will make India self sufficientn in power with in 10 years from now and India will grow at rate of 10 to 15 % of GDP .Though at present share of nuclear power is 6% of total need but cosidering disaster in waiting by using more fossil fuel and global warming due to more CO2 ,nuclear power (,a clean power )will have more than 60 % share with in 15 years of signing present deal .One thing we should remember ,we are capable of making bomb or power .we have to choose whether we will make bomb or power with in 15 years from now .So the question attaching making bomb with this deal irravalent at this point of time of power crisis India is facing now .So the situation is similar to 1991 .People should know the fact and and our entire nation has right to know the fact from all the political parties at present .
RE:Dr. Manmohan Singh and second liberisation
by Nimesh Dikshit on Jul 07, 2008 08:50 PM Permalink
china already demands arunachal and sikkim. next will be all north eastern states. pakistan wants kashmir and bangladesh will very soon make a claim in orrissa. whether we make bomb or not - we must have the capability. Also where do you suggest the nuclear waste will go? Would you volunteer your back yard?
RE:RE:Dr. Manmohan Singh and second liberisation
by abboral boral on Jul 07, 2008 09:32 PM Permalink
We are already capable of making bomb and pokhran 1 and 2 test will testify .India is already a superpower economy at least to these countries you have mentoned .So nothing to worry on that scale .It is the question of severe power crisis India is facing at the moment .
RE:Dr. Manmohan Singh and second liberisation
by prasanth radhakrishnan on Jul 07, 2008 08:59 PM Permalink
Remember... United States - has a very bad hooby of helping and later destroying the same country. Remember Iraq. Now Iran. In future India. They dont have self pride.. they pay no respect to UN. They are dictators... why do u want to give our hard fought freedom to them.
RE:Dr. Manmohan Singh and second liberisation
by prabhat mohanty on Jul 07, 2008 09:14 PM Permalink
- You must be a person with very very low self-esteem to equate India with Iraq and Iran.
Iran still commands some respect because of long history. But Iraq ???
Time you looked at yourself all over again in the mirror and say "Oh ! I am an Indian !!!"
RE:Dr. Manmohan Singh and second liberisation
by Kumarendra Mallick on Jul 07, 2008 09:36 PM Permalink
Prabhat You are perhaps right. But in western eyes India in a sandgrain. Years back when we were hobnobbing with the USSR, a gentleman from the Eastern Block told me that in their country it is told that India was one of their countries (like Bulgaria, East germany, Czechoslovakia, Pland etc.). I felt deeply hurt.
RE:Dr. Manmohan Singh and second liberisation
by abhishek nair on Jul 07, 2008 10:46 PM Permalink
Kumarendra,
You are deeply hurt because someone told you your country is a weakling. Let me recite a personal experience to you.
I interned at a software firm where at the end of my internship, my boss asked me what I'd like to do going forward. I said I'd like to get into business management. He said he didn't see that talent in me and saw me more as an engineer. Not that there is nothing wrong with being an engineer. But he didn't see alternative potential in me. I refused to believe it and just ignored his assessment. A mere five years later, I have advised the purchase of five companies, including a $2 billion water products company.
We all have potential, but if you get hurt by what others say, you will never reach it. It is a fact that no one knows what you are capable of no better than you do.
How is this person a gentleman after insulting your country? Why are you so insecure? Why do you think India will become a client state for the U.S.? The U.S. can't influence our foreign policy once they've transferred their technology to us. We always have the right to refuse their help, if it comes with conditions. On the other hand, we can align our security interests with them where it suits us. For example, China's push into Africa, Burma and the Bay of Bengal don't bode well for India. If a partnership with another country will help us, all the better for us.
RE:Dr. Manmohan Singh and second liberisation
by abboral boral on Jul 08, 2008 10:37 AM Permalink
Good analysis my dear friend Nair .India dont need USA expertise fully to grow .India is a great country having 30 % youth intelectuals in the age group of 25 to 35 along with 20% expertise in age group of 60 plus available which no country can boost in the world .Except power crisis ,India is sining at 10% GDP annually .Indian companies are in a mood to aquire more and more foreign companies which never seen last 60 years .Percentage of millioneer /billioneer are increasing on regular basis .Offcorse there are discrepencies regarding our farmers commiting suicide due to bad debt and other reasons,our education system needs lot more liberisations,our health procedures are full of misrule .All these are due to large no corruptions prevailing in our system and as it is a deep rooted and need political wills by all the parties to weed out from our system .Ok we are all trying to solve the problems but now the present power crisis is really worrysome and has to be solved and approach of Dr. manmohan Singh is praise worthy and need support of entire nations irrespective of any political clouts an individuals posses
RE:RE:Dr. Manmohan Singh and second liberisation
by abboral boral on Jul 07, 2008 09:27 PM Permalink
Absolutely right Mr. Nair .These people donot know how to critise with a analylitical mind .
RE:Dr. Manmohan Singh and second liberisation
by Philo on Jul 07, 2008 08:48 PM Permalink
hahahahaha..the fact that you point to misrule from 1989 to 1991 for the econoic dlodrums tells me you are a 12 year old. If in 2 years u can see economic collapse you are snifing some serious Paint. Pendejo just remember what Congis did from 1948 until 1989..they ruined..And you think this nuclear deal is good for the nation? Hell..why am I trying to argue with an imbecile. Phuck it
RE:Dr. Manmohan Singh and second liberisation
by abboral boral on Jul 08, 2008 10:48 AM Permalink
This Philoo or the Phaltoo fellow is a Telegu guys it seems under the guise of being canadian and writing most filthy words in telegu in this forum so ,I advise all not to answer this fellow and just ignore him because writing answer of this fellow ,our most sacred Indian values will get lost
RE:Dr. Manmohan Singh and second liberisation
by abboral boral on Jul 07, 2008 09:18 PM Permalink
MR. pHALTOO ,Perhaps you were not born when India got independance was virtually went to severe crisis due to partition where 50 lakh people were simply buchered and another 50 lakh people came as refugee and there was no money to feed those hungree people perhaps your ancester also present that time .And India could have been another rwanda or ethiopia of Africa .It was Pandit Nehru and Congress saved the nation by doing 5 years plan,making steel plants under PSU and lot of lot things to save the nation .So there was compultion to Congress at that time .So misrule will all ways hapen when our economy was in controlled time .We have run upto 1991 with this controlled economy and this controlled economy make India a weak economy as a result all kind of misrule will come automatically .So question of misrule by congress alone does not arise ,there were other gov also in between and you must know that all have followed the misfit controlled economy .It was only Dr. Manmohan and PVN (whom even our present congress leaders also forgotten )who thought otherwise and made that legedary liberisation in 1991 which not only saved India but also gave a platform to grow more and more .I advise you to spend with the hapless farmers who are commiting suicide in a village for 6 months and see the misery .I have seen the misery in 1947 and again in 1991 and 2005 .Ok if you want to live in darkness better go to Africa .India is not the place for you type of people who only knows criticism
2.to tell the cost which will be ultimately passed on consumers as cess.
3.what would be the tariff structure. this will result in absurd increase of power tariffs
4. how much power will be produced.
5. details of uranium reserves in the country.. there was an investigative report in HT that uranium reserves in india are enough to last 50 years and govt. is hiding this fact to buy expensive uranium from other countries and exchange money in between .
6.why can't untapped hydro,solar and wind sources of energy be used which will be less costly than uranium
anti common man cong should answer this.the idiot fake economists destructive trio of mm singh,p.chidambaram, and ms ahluwalia should answer this.shameless anti common man people
RE:details
by desacretes on Jul 07, 2008 08:35 PM Permalink
better understand what the deal is all about or else dont post your ill-informed comments..better u rock in a bar and dont waste every ones time
RE:details
by Philo on Jul 07, 2008 08:49 PM Permalink
yep..just liek you are doing. The questions above are geniune and good. All you ad to contribute was a bunch of desacretes faeces
I was always against the UNPA which used to hobnob with the LEFT parties in the past to try to create a third front, but the way Mulayam Singh has come in aid of a pathetic looking Manmohan Singh, has made his respect double up in the eyes of normal Indians who wanted this deal to go through. Now the LEFT is going to be isolated soon.
RE:Mulayam better than Advani
by rocker on Jul 07, 2008 08:32 PM Permalink
Who said that normal indian is concerned about passing the deal which may provide electricity at super high price 20 years from now.they are concerned with roti ,kapda and makan which is becoming out of reach now. And respect for mulayam ha ha! normal indian consider mulla mulayam no better than abu salem.
RE:Mulayam better than Advani
by imran patel on Jul 07, 2008 08:38 PM Permalink
Face reality…
People who are shouting about rising prices and are blaming the government have no clue of what is happening in the world. This problem is not specific to India. This is a worldwide problem. So stop acting and jumping around like boys. Think before you open your mouth.
Crude oil is at $146 per barrel. It is 3 times more expensive that what it was a few years back. This is due to multiple factors but not limited to demand, supply uncertainty, Speculation, etc. Ethanol, which was cheered as an alternative to fossil fuel, is one of the biggest contributors towards rising prices. As the demand and hence price of corn has gone up, farmers end up making more by growing corn as compared to wheat and rice. Now what is used as feed to chicken and cattle? It is corn. Hence as the feed price has gone up, the price of chicken has also gone up.
How much do you expect the government to subsidize? And where is the government going to get that money. The government does not make money. It only collects money from us.
Now think about inflation and the nuclear deal and you will see the connection.
We need a diversified energy portfolio. Too much reliance on fossil fuel makes us susceptible to the price fluctuations that are inherent to the crude oil market.
You cannot look at inflation and our countries energy needs as two isolated challenges.
RE:Mulayam better than Advani
by VinayBabu Ravuri on Jul 07, 2008 08:39 PM Permalink
Nuclear power is way cheap than the thermal power and with crude prices going skywards, nuclear option is the best, even if it bears fruit after 10 years from now.
RE:Mulayam better than Advani
by Philo on Jul 07, 2008 08:51 PM Permalink
Yeah. And 10 years from now Uranium will still be cheap? Pendejo pichichi lanjakudaka..Demand will make Uranium compete with oil prices..
People who are shouting about rising prices and are blaming the government have no clue of what is happening in the world. This problem is not specific to India. This is a worldwide problem. So stop acting and jumping around like boys. Think before you open your mouth.
Crude oil is at $146 per barrel. It is 3 times more expensive that what it was a few years back. This is due to multiple factors but not limited to demand, supply uncertainty, Speculation, etc. Ethanol, which was cheered as an alternative to fossil fuel, is one of the biggest contributors towards rising prices. As the demand and hence price of corn has gone up, farmers end up making more by growing corn as compared to wheat and rice. Now what is used as feed to chicken and cattle? It is corn. Hence as the feed price has gone up, the price of chicken has also gone up.
How much do you expect the government to subsidize? And where is the government going to get that money. The government does not make money. It only collects money from us.
Now think about inflation and the nuclear deal and you will see the connection.
We need a diversified energy portfolio. Too much reliance on fossil fuel makes us susceptible to the price fluctuations that are inherent to the crude oil market.
You cannot look at inflation and our countries energy needs as two isolated challenges.
RE:Please Think before you write
by rocker on Jul 07, 2008 08:26 PM Permalink
it is obvious imran that you support cong but do not come into the propoganda of the world's prices .inflation rate in US and EU is 3-4%from 2%.do not compare india to somalia or zimbabwe. in china it is 6.8%.india is self sufficient in food grains but then why prices have gone high as 20% as impact of trans port cost is only 2% of total cost.support to hoarders and speculators is the main thing.
RE:Please Think before you write
by imran patel on Jul 07, 2008 08:35 PM Permalink
Thats all we can do...Name calling.
I have NEVER voted for cong in my life !!!
Have you ever realized why inflation is high in countries where government susbidizes things ?
Think a bit harder.
There is a limit to which the government can subsidize. But if global supply-demand affect prices, countries that do not subsidize see less effect than countries that subsidize.
That is because people in those countries fine-tune their life styles accordingly.
We have become do dependent on governments to provide for us. It is just shameful.
We want free education, free healthcare, Pensions, cheap oil, etc...How will the government fund this.
I advocate small government with limited role. It is not the role of government to regulate prices. The markets should decide that.
But we as a nation have been under the influence of communism for a touch too long. We do not trust the markets. but we trust these headless and spineless politicians.
Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
Fool me for the last 60 years, bharat maata ki jai !!!
RE:Please Think before you write
by Philo on Jul 07, 2008 08:56 PM Permalink
Well said what? Come to Canada. Education is FREE. Health care is FREE. They have pnsion plan. So your full support is for what? To a 12 year old ret@rd?
RE:Please Think before you write
by DS on Jul 08, 2008 11:32 AM Permalink
please write something that makes sense. throwing your yapper wide open on forums is not helping anyone.
RE:Please Think before you write
by sherly on Jul 07, 2008 09:45 PM Permalink
Hello man, don't talk to much about that idiot MMS - he will sell India to America. He'll get at least 1 billion USD for this deal. Then about the hike in petroleum price, open your bloody eyes and read the below split carefully, you fool. Basic Price = Rs 21.93 Excise duty = Rs 14.35 Education Tax = Rs 0.43 Dealer commission=Rs 1.05 VAT =Rs 5.50 CrudeOilCustomduty=Rs 1.10 Petrol Custom = Rs 1.54 TransportationCharge=Rs 6.00 =============================== Total price = Rs 51.90
So for a Rs 22 liter petrol at pumps we people pay Rs 28 tax extra.Govt. is thinking to impose more price hike to curtain with the current crude oil bubble in International oil crisis.
If Central Govt. wish, it can still reduce the price of petrol in the current crisis situation, but it doesn't intend to do so, instead trying to fool the people and Nation. This is the basis LEFT parties are opposing, just generating more profits for the oil marketing companies.
RE:Please Think before you write
by G U R U on Jul 07, 2008 08:19 PM Permalink
that is a gud simple comment. But I guess our leadrs should also do something to educate the common man. They should make small ads to be telecast on TV showcasing need for alternate energy sources and its benefits.
RE:Please Think before you write
by imran patel on Jul 07, 2008 08:26 PM Permalink
True...But no one wants to flip a channel amd educate themselves. That will deprive them from the immense knowledge gained from the "Saas bhi kabhi bahu thi" crap they watch.
RE:Please Think before you write
by Raj on Jul 07, 2008 08:39 PM Permalink
See the basic problem is thqat our Govt is fool. Petrol can still be sold at 40 Rs a litre and Diesal at 30 Rs a litre, even if fuel prices shoot upto 250$ per gallon. Ask me how? Our Govt. use our hard earned money to subsidise petrol and diesal in India, as mostly the fuel (Diesal and Kerosene) are used in villages and in transportation of goods. So If the Indian Govt do not put in a support of 60 - 80 billion dollars a year the fuel prices will become unaffordable. So wats the solution? It very simple if you think for it. See the Government gives this subsidised fuel to farmers and Transporters who in turn produce foodgrains/rice etc at the cheaper/ subsidised price and than WE SELL THESE foodgrains to Oil Producing and exporting countries at the same or even lesser rates. If our Govt. makes it compulsory that all exports of foodgrains will be done at the REAL PRICE (taking into account the actual fuel prices)the real price of Rice exported to Middle east should be 500-600 Rs. P.Kg and NOT Rs.35/- per KG. In case there are no buyers at that price, the Govt should ban export and instead give it free to farmers who commit suicides and die of hunger. Why should the Indian Govt. export food products at extremely cheap and in fact subsidised price to Middle east, the best will be if it sells rice in India for Rs. 5/- per Kg and sell, it in Middle for 500/- P.KG. All this problem of fuel prices can be soldved in a single day.
RE:Please Think before you write
by imran patel on Jul 07, 2008 08:50 PM Permalink
Raj,
Why do you want to be dependent on the government ?
It is not making money. If it subsidizes something, that makes something more expensive. The government just moves money from one account to the other. It does NOT create VALUE.
RE:NEXUS
by prasanth radhakrishnan on Jul 07, 2008 09:06 PM Permalink
and let me know ...where is your side.. George Bush, or his father... both of them wants to do war. You know one thing.. Bush and musharref - they are also on one side... against india. Bush helps pakistan with war pleanes and arms... what do u think on that. Lets wait... dont depend on US. If iran can make enriched uraniam .. we also can....
RE:NEXUS
by ACM on Jul 07, 2008 08:58 PM Permalink
All for different reasons though. Advani because he is opposition - Musharaf because of his pathological hatred of India, Karat because of his pathological hatred of the USA and democracy and Wen because of growing friendship of the US and India. Other than this there is nothing common about them. They are all friends only for this (t)reason.
What is the advantage ? How much energy can we produce from the nuke plants ? ( % of total production) What the US is going to give us ? How much are we going to pay US for the deal?
Can anybody tell more about these ?.. that would be really great..
RE:If anybody know more details of the nuke deal, please post it..
by krishna sinha on Jul 07, 2008 08:20 PM Permalink
i) India needs energy and nuclear is one of the viable options. Nuclear power plants can be set up at a pace faster than coal fired plants. And it can be cheaper to set up and operate. ii) At present the nuclear proportion is around 3%. On account of the treaty and the co operation it can be raised to 6 to 8% in less than a decade. iii) The US will not only give relevant technology and plant and machinery but will also facilitate obtaining uranium which we do not have, and lack of which as well not planning for which,has caused all this confusion. iv) This is the most relevant question. The total or net cost and price of nuclear power in Canada and in France is cheaper than that from coal. There is no reason why it can be here also provided there is no 'bofores or enron' involved. In fact this is the aspect the opposition or the enlightened citizens should be asking rather than the desirability of nuclear power or the relevance of the treaty. Pl remember the desirability of partitioning the country without exchange of population, or taking Kashmir issue to the UN or desirability of having caste based reservation and not economic or handicap based, has been accepted without any public debate, which have been most harmful to the nation. The harm, if at all due to the treaty is going to be much less harmful, in any case.
Re: RE:If anybody know more details of the nuke deal, please post it..
by shahid on Dec 19, 2008 03:12 PM Permalink
One of the architects of 21st Century India, Dr. APJ Abdul Kalam, who was President of India from 2002 to 2007, has long stressed on a Vision 2020, energy independence and PURA (Providing Urban amenities in Rural Areas). I would like more information on the steps India is taking to achieve these.
Re: Re: RE:If anybody know more details of the nuke deal, please post it..
by Guest on Dec 20, 2008 10:02 AM Permalink
India has 17% of the world’s population, but only about 0.8% of the world’s known oil and natural gas resources. Based on the progress visualized for India in next two decades, the power generating capacity has to increase to 400,000 MW by the year 2030 from the current 130,000 MW in India. For energy independence, Dr. Abdul Kalam's goals are that in 2030, the hydel capacity should contribute 80,000 MW, large-scale solar energy farms around 55,000 MW, wind energy 64,000 MW, nuclear power plants 50,000 MW and rest 15,000 MW through use of solid bio mass, bio fuel and municipal waste.
Dr. Manmohan Singh has added weight to Dr. Kalam's views on energy security and renewable energy. The National Common Minimum Programme has committed to develop our renewable energy potential. Indian government has launched the Rajiv Gandhi Vidyutikaran Yojana and a programme called 'Bharat Nirman', to complete rural electrification within the next 5 years. The program looks to combine power generation through thermal, hydro etc., replace diesel with bio-fuels in agricultural pump-sets and tractors, hi-tech biomass gasification for cooking and lighting, and develop frontier technologies like hydrogen and fuel cells.
The current Prime Minister, Dr. Manmohan Singh has spoken about how India’s sustained economic development is vitally dependent on the country's energy security and on the simultaneous promotion of sustainable and environment friendly energy technologies. The present government (UPA
RE:If anybody know more details of the nuke deal, please post it..
by G Periswami on Jul 07, 2008 08:01 PM Permalink
Right now the % nuclear power to the total may not be great because we are constrained by non-availability of uranium as well as investment.once the ban is lifted we will get both and nuclear power will ease the pressure on oil in the international scenario as we are a big oil consumer.
RE:If anybody know more details of the nuke deal, please post it..
by Beachy Babes on Jul 07, 2008 08:04 PM Permalink
After the deal,
(1) countries belonging to the NSG (Nuclear Suppliers Group) will waive restriction for India and India will get a de facto Nuclear State status. This will create great advantage for India in international politics.
(2) All countries of the NSG then can supply us technology and fuel for power generation. France and Russia have said that they will immediately supply technology to India after the NSG waiver. Australia also has said that they will supply uranium just after the waiver by the NSG.
(3) At least 20 percent of our electricity can be produced in the coming 5 years after the waiver. Later on more power plant can be established. For example, France produces 80% of their electricity from nuclear power plants.
(4) We will NO longer depend on oil import from middle east countries so heavily as we do now.
(5) This deal is for the civil nuclear cooperation. The military reactors will be uneffected by the deal. So it will not have any binding on our military nuclear technology (read nuclear bomb).
RE:If anybody know more details of the nuke deal, please post it..
by All Right on Jul 07, 2008 09:05 PM Permalink
Beachy Babes. Very well explained. I do not think 20% of our power generation will be share of nuclear power at the end of 5 years.
The present share of nuclear power to total power generation is hardly 3%. By 2020, after factoring the deal, it is estimated to go up to 6%.
No energy security strategy of any country is unifocused. It usually based on a basket of diversified choices - coal, oil, gas, bio-fuels, solar, wind, etc.
So the deal in the changed economic environment where commodity prices are spiraling, helps to increase the share of nuclear power to total power generation by 100%.
The Nuclear deal is part of the long term strategy to curb inflation as it relates to energy security. It makes our dependence on oil that much lower. Without power, we cannot sustain our high growth rates.
India's fast breeder reactor is in the cutting edge of nuclear technology. It is based on thorium. India has the largest reserve of thorium in the world. The problem is that this technology is still in its developmental stage. In 10-20 years time, we could emerge as a major nuclear supplier. For this we need NSG membership.
RE:RE:If anybody know more details of the nuke deal, please post it..
by Mahesh on Jul 07, 2008 08:09 PM Permalink
that sounds great. Thanks for the information. I think many of the people dont know the advantages of the deal and simply they are shouting against it. Since APJ Abdul Kalam supports it, we can safely believe that the deal wont harm the sovereignity of the country.. thanks, Mahesh
RE:If anybody know more details of the nuke deal, please post it..
by avinash Gajare on Jul 07, 2008 08:16 PM Permalink
add few more and impotant points 1.Asses to india for duel use high technology 2.world acceptance india as a nuclear nation as good as G5 3.Acess to space technology 4. Bio tech and nano technology upgradation 5. infact it is in the interest of america to set R&D center in india due to its low cost and high inteligence human resourses
RE:If anybody know more details of the nuke deal, please post it..
by Raj on Jul 07, 2008 08:14 PM Permalink
Its naive questions like these which are highlighted by LEFT and thereby they prey on the minds of innocents in telling them lies about the Nuke Deal. First of all its NOT USA alone which is going to sign the deal and benefit from it. Whole of the NSG/The IAEA will sign an agreement with India thereby taking us out of 3 decades of international isolation. The same deal which China has done decades back is being done by India with the IAEA and USA is helping us by convincing the other members to take India in again. We are not going to pay USA even a single penny for this deal, we want the technology to nurture N-Energy to power our power plants and thereby produce energy which is extremely expensive now to produce with fossil fuel and coal. We can produce upto 25 % - 40 % of our energy through N-Power, that too if we decide NOW, it will take another 10-15 years to reach that level. Canada produces 40 % of its electricity, and even Saudi Arabia is planning to switch over to N-Power plants. It will be utterly foolish and suicidal for us to be taken in by the LEFT parties whose sole aim is to keep India poor and backward, they will never want India to be a superpower as they get millions of dollars in return from their masters in China and Pakistan to create hurdle for India.
RE:If anybody know more details of the nuke deal, please post it..
by South Indian on Jul 07, 2008 07:57 PM Permalink
Nuc deal is not just about energy security... it in one way or other indian nuc community to develop other processes and cycles..
Even if 10% for a country like India it is quite a big amount...
RE:If anybody know more details of the nuke deal, please post it..
by Mahesh on Jul 07, 2008 08:05 PM Permalink
I didn't fully understand what you said.. Are we going to get Uranium & technology ?. And are we going to do research on top of that ?.. 10% is quite low .. It is simply not enough..
RE:If anybody know more details of the nuke deal, please post it..
by VinayBabu Ravuri on Jul 07, 2008 08:28 PM Permalink
This 10% rhetoric of the commies is in view of the 50 year projections of energy needs. Who knows how many reators are going to come up by then. A nuclear plant can produce way huge amounts of electricity than a thermal plant. If we sign the deal, we will be opening our doors to all those high-end technologies which are denied to India, apart from just the Uranium for our nuclear reactors. Our Ex. President Abdul Kalam is much wiser than all of us on the issue, when he said it is good for the nation we should just support the deal and dump the communists(Left and China)and the communalists(BJP and Pak).
MMS is right when he says Advani need not give any advice on this issue...
The naked truth is Advani dont understand much about this deal. He basically knows about creating troubles and such nonsense.
Few weeks back Advani displayed his complete ignorance on the topic when he shot some questions at the UPA. And after that he never uttered any word on this matter!!
RE:IT IS TRUE
by Kumarendra Mallick on Jul 07, 2008 08:24 PM Permalink
Dear Beachy babes, I am not batting of LK Advani, for the PM must respect the spirit of democracy. The treasury bench and the opposition form the Govt. Even if one common citizen expresses concern the treasury bench need to satisfy him. It is unfortunate that the PM is talking in first person singular "I". That will bring disaster to any body as per our general experience. In a healthy democracy nobody is Supreme nor a Messiah. PM needs to convince the nation and not talk with arrogance of a dictator!!
The use of "I" instead of "we" is a very trivial matter. Everyone who meets the PM says he is a very very polite and gentle person. Not a bit of arrogance. Even the media persons agree to this.
Mr Advani's work of freeing terrorists and then denying that he was not informed is what I call lies and arrogance. Mr Yashwant Sinha told in a press conference that Advani lied when he wrote that in his book.
RE:IT IS TRUE
by Kumarendra Mallick on Jul 07, 2008 09:48 PM Permalink
Dear Beachy Babies Let us not digress. I am not concerned with Advani nor Yashwant Singh (Perhaps Yashwant Singh said there is a Mole in PMO). Can PM ensure that all our Atomic Establishment — dreams of Pt. Nehru and Homi J Bhabha — like BARC, TIFR, NFC and AMD shall not be shut down during the 40-year Nuclear deal???
RE:One man army
by Kumarendra Mallick on Jul 07, 2008 08:27 PM Permalink
Dear Sunny I pray your wishes come true. Our PM has not so far shown that he stands on his own feet. May God bless him, all the same.
Finally our PM has stood up and confronted the real enemies within--the commies! Lets not forget the real leaders who changed the course of our nation - PV Narasimha Rao, AB Vajpayee and now Manmohan. These are politicians who have risen and become true statesmen.
The darling of Bush and USA and a manipulating chamcjha bureacrat of indiara household, he is a dud and nominated and not elected ptrime miniter.What the hell is he doing in G 8 summit? India is not member of same.His over anxiety to get deal through shows there is something to hide and he seems to be either major beneficiary in the deal or is under threat by western lobby.We would like to caution Man Mohan to remain in his limits and not enter into any stratgeic commitments to foreign powers without iopening all the cards before indian citizens his masters.he should understand that he is mere a servant of people and should behave like one.We dont want nuclear deal to be rushed throguh.period!
RE:Man Mohan quit
by SUDHAKAR on Jul 07, 2008 08:20 PM Permalink
"elected" no meaning for that because even criminals are getting elected Persons like MMS whether elected or nominated they are the best for this country. Commis are also got elected wats use the have narrow mentality for they can see only china nothing else. Advani and his "group" they can see only politics linked with "communalism". SO MMS IS THE BEST PM.
RE:Man Mohan quit
by All Right on Jul 07, 2008 09:11 PM Permalink
Even the RSS supports the deal.
There is a difference between CPM's opposition and Bjp's opposition.
CPM's opposition is mainly because they are allergic to closer ties with the US, who they consider the most powerful imperistitic power in the world - the leader in the pack of all imperialistic powers.
The BJP's opposition is simply to prevent Congress taking the credit for a watershed deal and running away with BJP's urban vote base
In 1999, Vajpayee as PM and in 2000 Jaswant Singh as Foreign Minister of NDA, on the floor of the UN General Assembly categorically gave an assurance that India will refrain from nuclear tests, justifying such a position that India had no need to test.
This makes BJP's opposition to the deal most dubious
