RE:Come on guys where are you all by shaker on Jul 07, 2008 08:20 PM  Permalink Faridy do the truth hurt so that you report abuse, the fact is bitter. Accept that you are illegitimate there is no point in cribbing. What ever you are I pity you and may be I can understand but when you come up with silly notions then there is no options left to say the truth.    Forward   |   Report abuse
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RE:Come on guys where are you all by raju on Jul 07, 2008 07:30 PM  Permalink Shaker let me explain you how muslims are muslims in india.Islam literally means "Submission or surrender to the will of Almighty GOD" and "mu" in arabic is like a verb.so mu islam=muslim i.e. person who submits or surrender himself to the will of Almighty GOD and who obey his laws.So a person whether he lives in arab ,europe or india can be a muslim.Kafir in arabic simply means"non muslim".Hindu means a person living near indus river.so it means a muslim is a geographical hindu too.Like in arab country a christian is also an arab, jew is also arab and hindu(10% of native omanis are idol worshippers)is also arab.According to swami vivekanand the religion should be vedantist not hinduism.Ved comes from the root word of vidya meaning knowledge I hope my brother shaker will now analyse and understand it in a better way.Assalamualaikum to all(Peace be on all) who read it and take it in positive way.    Forward   |   Report abuse
RE:Come on guys where are you all by p c on Jul 07, 2008 07:35 PM  Permalink Raju, really appreciate your response and agree wholeheartedly with you. Insha-allah.    Forward   |   Report abuse
RE:Come on guys where are you all by shaker on Jul 07, 2008 08:11 PM  Permalink Raju I accept what all you have said, but that is not what I meant, even though the majority of them got converted to Islam here in Southeast Asia by virtue of Rape and Knife point, which no one disputes. How come they say that Hindus are blah blah. Do they have any right. These people do not know how they come to be Muslims. I wrote in my previous post that I do accept if Arabs talk then there is meaning and you silly Raju started explaining thing as if I do not know anything. Come on Raju grow up.    Forward   |   Report abuse
RE:RE:Come on guys where are you all by mehboob mhate on Jul 08, 2008 11:49 AM  Permalink Dear Shaker, Islam was never spread by Knife(Sword) OR by force in any manner. Instances 1)De Lacy O’Leary in the book "Islam at the cross road" (Page 8): writes "History makes it clear however, that the legend of fanatical Muslims sweeping through the world and forcing Islam at the point of the sword upon conquered races is one of the most fantastically absurd myth that historians have ever repeated." 2)Muslims were the lords of Arabia for 1400 years. For a few years the British ruled, and for a few years the French ruled. Overall, the Muslims ruled Arabia for 1400 years. Yet today, there are 14 million Arabs who are Coptic Christians i.e. Christians since generations. If the Muslims had used the sword there would not have been a single Arab who would have remained a Christian. 3)The Muslims ruled India for about a thousand years. If they wanted, they had the power of converting each and every non-Muslim of India to Islam. Today more than 80% of the population of India are non-Muslims. All these non-Muslim Indians are bearing witness today that Islam was not spread by the sword. 4)Today the fastest growing religion in America is Islam. The fastest growing religion in Europe in Islam. Which sword is forcing people in the West to accept Islam in such large numbers? 5)Dr. Joseph Adam Pearson rightly says, "People who worry that nuclear weaponry will one day fall in the hands of the Arabs, fail to realize that the Islamic bomb has been dropped already, it fell the day MUHA    Forward   |   Report abuse

RE:STOP KILLING HINDUS IS THE NAME OF JIHAD, STOP CONVERTING HINDUS IN THE NAME OF JESUS, SAVE HINDUS, SAVE HINDUSIAM, SAVE YOUR SELF IN WORLD... by Tom Dick on Jul 07, 2008 07:49 PM  Permalink Why do Hindus get converted? We need to look at the real cause if a Hindu decide to convert himself/herself to any other relion. This applies to every other religion. The people who get converted are doing so for some reason or the other. If religious leaders can solve such problems which leads to conversion, this won't happrn again. There is absolutly no point in crying that XYZ is converted. Find out the reason and solve it.One should not worry too much about such things. Hinduism is the oldest religion and it is a very strong religion to fall apart if a couple of people here and there get converted. Don't fall prey to political parties trying to make hoy when the sun shines.    Forward   |   Report abuse
RE:STOP KILLING HINDUS IS THE NAME OF JIHAD, STOP CONVERTING HINDUS IN THE NAME OF JESUS, SAVE HINDUS, SAVE HINDUSIAM, SAVE YOUR SELF IN WORLD... by shaker on Jul 07, 2008 08:17 PM  Permalink I do not know whose Dick, what ever I dont care if someone convert purely because of atrocities which is just. Ok talk of that and discuss that, not go on killing innocents and then talk rubbish that this religion is good etc. Even after conversion do you think that they are treated at par with the adopted religion then they are mistaken. I have traveled all over believe me the converties are eyes as what we do for an outcast. Do not come up with some silly answers for this. then one more thing if you convert because of atrocities and then criticize Hindu to an extant I can accept the rebuke. But believe me those all who talk rubbish about Hinduism is whose ancestors have been converted by rape or at knife point and they talk about Hindus what right do they have.    Forward   |   Report abuse
RE:RE:STOP KILLING HINDUS IS THE NAME OF JIHAD, STOP CONVERTING HINDUS IN THE NAME OF JESUS, SAVE HINDUS, SAVE HINDUSIAM, SAVE YOUR SELF IN WORLD... by JGN on Jul 07, 2008 10:15 PM  Permalink The converts are neither fish nor fowl.    Forward   |   Report abuse
RE:RE:RE:STOP KILLING HINDUS IS THE NAME OF JIHAD, STOP CONVERTING HINDUS IN THE NAME OF JESUS, SAVE HINDUS, SAVE HINDUSIAM, SAVE YOUR SELF IN WORLD... by Aviram Vijh on Jul 08, 2008 02:28 PM  Permalink Hey mehboob....yes islam in the thousand years of mughal rule very much spread by force... ur argument abt 80% of india wud be muslim is crap... the 22 crore in pakistan and 8 crore in bangladesh are also frok the same mughal rule... infact...to protect hindus and themselves, the sikhs fought many battles against mughals in erstwhile punjab. Aurangzeb is known to burn 100 'Janeos' a day of brahmans.. I agree that some people may have converted due to their 'love' for islam...but crores of people won't convert for the love islam. Forget Mughalraj, even till today, systematically hindu sindhis in pakistan have been converted to islam. There was a big report about the forcible conversion of hindu girls in the larkhana dist (sindh) which a decade back was nearly 30% hindu...today is 10% hindu. Srinagar in 1990 was 38% hindu and 8% sikh, today it is 92% muslim. Dont give crap abt muslims never forcing conversions...its what it thrives on!    Forward   |   Report abuse
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RE:dump by Arif Rashid on Jul 07, 2008 06:25 PM  Permalink What is ur problem with this muslim body and muslims. Kya bigara hai tumhara??    Forward   |   Report abuse
RE:dump by raju on Jul 07, 2008 07:40 PM  Permalink Arif dont plead,Stand and be courageous you and muslims have never done wrong infact talk to the people in a logical way and arm urself with knowledge.Hindus will then understand muslims in a better way.Islam is the most misunderstood way of life in the world.Especially now because of misconceptions abt Islam    Forward   |   Report abuse
RE:dump by shaker on Jul 07, 2008 06:56 PM  Permalink because they are perverted converted sodomized body, who doesn't fight for just cause.    Forward   |   Report abuse
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