prices of cotton rises from Rs. 2100 per 1000 kg. to Rs. 3100. Prices of Wheat from Rs.700/- per quintal to Rs. 1200 per qunital. Soybean from Rs.1700/- per quintal to Rs. 2700/- per quintal. Thanks to Manmohan singh for helping farmers with rising inflation. Its every farmer's desire to increase the inflation so that it can benefit them. why should we care for the urban people if they get petrol or not, if they get essential commodities at higher rates... we are getting diesel at subsidised rates for our tractors. thanks to MMS. We wish the prices of wheat should be between Rs. 2000/- to Rs. 2500/-. Cotton Rs. 3500 to Rs. 4000. We farmers expect from the urban people to eat more more more and more. don't use public transport. eat burgers, pizzas and other fast food so that demand for wheat will rise and we will get the benefit. thats the reason 65% urban people are obese and are increasing rapidly...thanks to all urban people for increasing demand for wheat and other agriculture produce.... pls. don't use public transport...
RE:Inflation and Farmers
by arp on Jul 07, 2008 12:22 PM Permalink
It is good chance for MMS for fast reform.now there will be no barking dogs with MMS.Mulayam and Amar will dance with Anil Ambani.Mukesh Ambani will loose.It is nothing but to keep politicians interest intact.
RE:Inflation and Farmers
by AnUnknownIndian on Jul 07, 2008 01:13 PM Permalink
hmmm........you seem to be a better economist than Manmohan and Chidambaram. Whoever wins the next general election, I would recommend your name to be our next Finance Minister.
Just a curiosity!!! where did you learn your economics ..........
RE:Only Left can make India as strong and powerful as China
by saumil shukla on Jul 07, 2008 12:05 PM Permalink
in that case we should make Harkishan Singh Surjeet our PM... he is the perfect choice with 90 years of experience
RE:Only Left can make India as strong and powerful as China
by All Right on Jul 07, 2008 12:54 PM Permalink
The problem is Advani. He says at 85 years, he is less senile than Comrade Harkishan Singh Surjeet. Since votes get split between them, ManMohan emerges the winner
RE:Only Left can make India as strong and powerful as China
by raj sreedhar on Jul 07, 2008 09:08 PM Permalink
Hey Spiderman, Tell me what Communist have done for the nation? Name one good thing. And tell me why Soviet Union colpapsed. Now, China start printing their currency without Mao's picture. It tells you something right? IDOIT COMMIE.Your brain is in the wrong place. Wiseup.
RE:Only Left can make India as strong and powerful as China
by AnUnknownIndian on Jul 07, 2008 01:06 PM Permalink
@Spiderman.
30 years of commies rule in Bengal is eye opener for the Indian public. Once Bengal was ahead of other states in almost every sector, but today Bengal is lagging behind in every sector. It is surprising how come a Spiderman is blind????
prices of cotton rises from Rs. 2100 per 1000 kg. to Rs. 3100. Prices of Wheat from Rs.700/- per quintal to Rs. 1200 per qunital. Soybean from Rs.1700/- per quintal to Rs. 2700/- per quintal. Thanks to Manmohan singh for helping farmers with rising inflation. Its every farmer's desire to increase the inflation so that it can benefit them. why should we care for the urban people if get petrol or not, if they get essential commodities at higher rates... we are getting diesel at subsidised rates. thanks to MMS. We wish the prices of wheat should be between Rs. 2000/- to Rs. 2500/-. Cotton Rs. 3500 to Rs. 4000.
RE:Inflation : Benefits to the Farmers
by All Right on Jul 07, 2008 11:49 AM Permalink
So farmers and rural areas vote Congress while urban areas attracted by Nuclear Deal also switich to Congress. So where does it benefit knickerwallahs
RE:RE:Inflation : Benefits to the Farmers
by shailendra lande on Jul 07, 2008 11:54 AM Permalink
knickerwallahs should wear undergarment if they don't want to expose their asset.
RE:CPM defeated
by Kiran Dey on Jul 07, 2008 11:47 AM Permalink
I'm sure u cannot vote in WB so whole Bengal will vote Left parties in Lok sabha elections next year......
A lot of Congress paid servants call BJP to go with Congress on Nuclear Deal. Congress will recognise after Elections in 4-5 states, BJP has a little bit value remains in Indian politics. Congress will reach there where NDA reached on 2004.
RE:A lot of Congress paid servants call BJP to go with Congress on Nuclear Deal. Congress will recognise after Elections in 4-5 states, BJP has a little bit value remains in Indian politics. Congress will reach there where NDA reached on 2004.
by Raj on Jul 07, 2008 11:27 AM Permalink
We know congress will bite the dust. They cannot hang to power very long on the ground of nuclear deal. Poor and middle class now suffer lot due to record inflation about 12% highest in decades and high food prices which are main issue for all......
RE:A lot of Congress paid servants call BJP to go with Congress on Nuclear Deal. Congress will recognise after Elections in 4-5 states, BJP has a little bit value remains in Indian politics. Congress will reach there where NDA reached on 2004.
by All Right on Jul 07, 2008 11:46 AM Permalink
Bad News for you. A SP-Cong tieup in UP will push BJP third place, probably not opening its account - losing 15 seats.
A SP-JDS-Cong tieup in Karnataka will ensure BJP will not open its account - losing 18 seats they now hold.
Orissa, MP, Rajasthan & Chattisgarh - NDABJP governments face strong anti-incumbency -BJP expected to lose seats
WB - a Congress-TMC tieup will imply Congress/UPA more seats at the cost of Commies. Kerala the Commies are destined to a white wash. Cong to gain 20 seats
So tell me where does BJP expect to gain to offset these losses?
RE:RE:A lot of Congress paid servants call BJP to go with Congress on Nuclear Deal. Congress will recognise after Elections in 4-5 states, BJP has a little bit value remains in Indian politics. Congress will reach there where NDA reached on 2004.
by PKN on Jul 07, 2008 12:01 PM Permalink
Why dont tell this to the Congress , Soniaji may go in for immediate elections. - In UP Congress will never tie up with SP . Not till Rahul Gandhi approves and he will not . By the way the wily Dalit leader Mayawati will win . From point of view of the Congress no difference between being 2 or 3 position in UP . As far as anti-incumbancy is concerned are you referring to the factors that NDTV/ IBN used to predict that Modi will lose in Gujarat?
- If politics were all about 1 1 = 2 then Bangarappa would not have lost to BJP when he had both Congress JDS support in last elections .
RE:A lot of Congress paid servants call BJP to go with Congress on Nuclear Deal. Congress will recognise after Elections in 4-5 states, BJP has a little bit value remains in Indian politics. Congress will reach there where NDA reached on 2004.
by shailendra lande on Jul 07, 2008 11:38 AM Permalink
if farmers are getting good price for their produce due to inflation then why it bites your pocket.
RE:A lot of Congress paid servants call BJP to go with Congress on Nuclear Deal. Congress will recognise after Elections in 4-5 states, BJP has a little bit value remains in Indian politics. Congress will reach there where NDA reached on 2004.
by PKN on Jul 07, 2008 11:52 AM Permalink
Where did you learn this ? As excuses goes this is better than the ones that Chidambaram is making . Maybe if to please Amat Singh , Soniaji kicks Chidambaram out you could be a choice for FM.
RE:A lot of Congress paid servants call BJP to go with Congress on Nuclear Deal. Congress will recognise after Elections in 4-5 states, BJP has a little bit value remains in Indian politics. Congress will reach there where NDA reached on 2004.
by shailendra lande on Jul 07, 2008 12:02 PM Permalink
prices of cotton rises from Rs. 2100 per 1000 kg. to Rs. 3100. Prices of Wheat from Rs.700/- per quintal to Rs. 1200 per qunital. Soybean from Rs.1700/- per quintal to Rs. 2700/- per quintal. Thanks to Manmohan singh for helping farmers with rising inflation. Its every farmer's desire to increase the inflation so that it can benefit them. why should we care for the urban people if they get petrol or not, if they get essential commodities at higher rates... we are getting diesel at subsidised rates for our tractors. thanks to MMS. We wish the prices of wheat should be between Rs. 2000/- to Rs. 2500/-. Cotton Rs. 3500 to Rs. 4000. We farmers expect from the urban people to eat more more more and more. don't use public transport. eat burgers, pizzas and other fast food so that demand for wheat will rise and we will get the benefit. thats the reason 65% urban people are obese and are increasing rapidly...thanks to all urban people for increasing demand for wheat and other agriculture produce.... pls. don't use public transport...
RE:A lot of Congress paid servants call BJP to go with Congress on Nuclear Deal. Congress will recognise after Elections in 4-5 states, BJP has a little bit value remains in Indian politics. Congress will reach there where NDA reached on 2004.
by truthandonlytruth on Jul 07, 2008 11:28 AM Permalink
and commies have already reached no where.
RE:A lot of Congress paid servants call BJP to go with Congress on Nuclear Deal. Congress will recognise after Elections in 4-5 states, BJP has a little bit value remains in Indian politics. Congress will reach there where NDA reached on 2004.
by Kiran Dey on Jul 07, 2008 11:34 AM Permalink
truthandonlytruth -only time will tell- Left never cares as we have our solid ground since 50 years- they will never trust those who have done nothing for Kerala and WB as we don't vote for them
RE:A lot of Congress paid servants call BJP to go with Congress on Nuclear Deal. Congress will recognise after Elections in 4-5 states, BJP has a little bit value remains in Indian politics. Congress will reach there where NDA reached on 2004.
by Vikas on Jul 07, 2008 11:29 AM Permalink
Definitely you havent heard that news that Trinamul and Congress defeated CPM in Bengal municipal election (TC Cong=8, CPM=4, FB=1) ? BJP has increased its seats in Bengal municipal elections.
RE:A lot of Congress paid servants call BJP to go with Congress on Nuclear Deal. Congress will recognise after Elections in 4-5 states, BJP has a little bit value remains in Indian politics. Congress will reach there where NDA reached on 2004.
by saumil shukla on Jul 07, 2008 11:30 AM Permalink
u mean in deep sleep ??
RE:RE:A lot of Congress paid servants call BJP to go with Congress on Nuclear Deal. Congress will recognise after Elections in 4-5 states, BJP has a little bit value remains in Indian politics. Congress will reach there where NDA reached on 2004.
by Kiran Dey on Jul 07, 2008 11:38 AM Permalink
Left always concentrate and win big elections and we will prove it when time will come that's why we want to distance ourselves with congress and communal forces who have cheated India since Independence doing nothing for WB and Kerala.
RE:RE:RE:A lot of Congress paid servants call BJP to go with Congress on Nuclear Deal. Congress will recognise after Elections in 4-5 states, BJP has a little bit value remains in Indian politics. Congress will reach there where NDA reached on 2004.
by Kiran Dey on Jul 07, 2008 11:40 AM Permalink
LEFT IS GOING TO RULE OVER INDIA AS REST HAVE FAILED AGAIN AND AGAIN............LEARN FROM NEPAL .........
RE:A lot of Congress paid servants call BJP to go with Congress on Nuclear Deal. Congress will recognise after Elections in 4-5 states, BJP has a little bit value remains in Indian politics. Congress will reach there where NDA reached on 2004.
by saumil shukla on Jul 07, 2008 11:54 AM Permalink
Dear comrade.. wake up... india is a democracy.. u need to go to north korea and china to spread ur communist ideology...
All those who want to write about the Nuclear Deal may kindly go through the entire matter. Everything is available once you browse the internet. It is not as simple as you think. If you want to go through the entire text of the 123 Nuclear Deal, The Hyde Act and the (para by para)expert comments on the issue, pl send me a mail at yni.anand@rediffmail.com
RE:A Request
by All Right on Jul 07, 2008 10:54 AM Permalink
Knickerwallahs, Read 1-2-3 Agreement Before Commenting
A. If the Agreement works in detriment to India we can Terminate under Article 14
1. Either Party shall have the right to terminate this Agreement prior to its expiration on one year's written notice to the other Party. A Party giving notice of termination shall provide the reasons for seeking such termination. The Agreement shall terminate one year from the date of the written notice, unless the notice has been withdrawn by the providing Party in writing prior to the date of termination.
B. If the Hyde Act is seriously implemented by the US, we can pass our own laws to neutralize the Hyde Act- Article 2
1. The Parties shall cooperate in the use of nuclear energy for peaceful purposes in accordance with the provisions of this Agreement. Each Party shall implement this Agreement in accordance with its respective applicable treaties, national laws, regulations, and license requirements concerning the use of nuclear energy for peaceful purpose
It is to remembered that the deal is only nuclear civilian cooperation.
The US will provide us technological transfers and uranium supplies to reactors for civilian purpose - for this they seek guarantees that enriched uranium will not be diverted for militrary purpose.
What we do with our own or other friendly countries (like Russia) technology or uranium is outside the purview of the Deal
RE:RE:A Request
by All Right on Jul 07, 2008 10:55 AM Permalink
Knickerwallahs point out that 1-2-3 Agreement is over-ridden by the Hyde Act. For one thing, an international treaty over-rides national laws. Even for argument sake the reverse holds true, what does the 1-2-3 Agreement say:
Article 2, Para 1 of the 123 agreement text released on August 3, 2007 clearly states:
"The Parties shall cooperate in the use of nuclear energy for peaceful purposes in accordance with the provisions of this Agreement. Each Party shall implement this Agreement "in accordance with its respective applicable treaties, national laws," regulations, and license requirements concerning the use of nuclear energy for peaceful purposes."
So there is no mention of Hyde Act specifically. Only indirectly through "national laws". But this mention of "national laws" is mutual. This means if Hyde Act is a domestic law of the US, we can have a law exactly reverse of the Hyde Act. In a dispute, we are bound by our national laws while the US is to theirs creating a gridlock.
So the argument of Hyde Act is only a bogey used by commies and Knickerwallahs to confuse the public
Of our 22 reactors, 14 will be placed under IAEA supervision, and 8 can be used for military puposes. but more importantly India has retained the right to develop future breeder reactors for its military program. This is a major concession as it means that Russia can build a few more reactors for us and these will not be monitored.
RE:A Request
by AK on Jul 07, 2008 11:25 AM Permalink
What you have written is all good but you have also missed one crucial point. Once the US Congress ratifies this agreement then Hyde Act is automatically superceded. President Bush may have to answer questions during ratification.
RE:A Request
by saumil shukla on Jul 07, 2008 10:58 AM Permalink
how come the info ur publishing never came on rediff... can you tell me where u got the above things from??? i tried looking at diffferent websites but cudnt find 123
RE:A Request
by All Right on Jul 07, 2008 11:09 AM Permalink
Please Google 123 Agreement and Hyde Act. Somehow when I post the links, it is treated as abuse. Otherwise go to Anand YNI's site
RE:A Request
by vinod v on Jul 07, 2008 11:09 AM Permalink
HI Alright,
I was looking for such writeup which expalains the nuances of the N-Deal.. Thanks.. How come this rediff or News channels dont carry such news they r busy with Arushi murder sensation and khali mania.
Coming back to the point..
1) Will the power generated solve the power defficiancy of the country 2) Still we depend on N-fuel uranium, whats the guarantee they wont hike rates.. in turn costly n-power 3) what the guarantee that the supply will be steady for no of years to come.
RE:RE:A Request
by All Right on Jul 07, 2008 11:21 AM Permalink
1. No it will not solve our power problem per se but will mitigate it to some extent. Even factoring the deal, nuclear power is estimated to constitute 6% (an increase of 100%) by 2020 Our nuclear security strategy depends upon a basket of diversified options - gas, oil, wing, solar, bio-fuels etc. This helps us to avoid risks putting all the eggs in one basket. The real advantage is that India has already invested in uranium based reactors, now operating below 50% for want of spares & fuels. So without further investments we can get additional power from existing investment by upping capacity utilization 2. There is no guarantee. As any commodity it is subject to inflation. As you know after oil, the world is going to shortly experience a gas price spikes as never seen before. But the 8 reactors outside the deal and any future reactor we set up outside US assistance can reprocess the spent fuel. Which means we can recycle the uranium. Besides the thorium based reactors first convert it to uranium before using it as fuel. 3. No guarantee as in life. We need to take one day ayt a time
RE:left
by All Right on Jul 07, 2008 11:02 AM Permalink
The Left always does the wrong things.
This time they messed up their timing. Withdrawing support now, will be only symbolic. With SP, JDS, Lok Dal, TMC plus independents lending support to the UPA, the government cannot fall now.
If the intention of the Left is to embarrass ManMohan while he is attending an international summit, then the Left invites a much more stronger backlash than they are facing now
RE:left
by saumil shukla on Jul 07, 2008 10:48 AM Permalink
he is right now transferring all his money to Bank of China so he could spend his last few years in peace...
RE:G8 is a talking shop and Photo opportunity
by All Right on Jul 07, 2008 10:58 AM Permalink
What do you know of NGOs knickerwallah? The G8 is so important that each time they meet, NGOs internationally target protest. This time will be no different.
If you like to belittle the deal, at least pull something which has a measure of truth.
