Why isnt this a headline news on Rediff and everywhere??? One IFS officer thats a Indian Foreign service diplomat is killed and a Brigadier from the Indian Army is killed along with 2 Indian soldiers guarding the Indian Embassy. It also killed dozens of Afghani Sinks and Hindus who were waiting outside the embassy to get a Indian Visa.
This is very serious matter, and its a matter of gravest concern for all Indians all over the world. Why are we even having news items of Dhoni, Mulayam and all junk news which is getting top priority? Dont we Indians value the lives of Indians killed abroad doing their duty?
Why isnt this a headline news on Rediff as well as all other portals and news channels?
Isnt Attack on Indian Embessy actually an Attack on Indian soil? Shame on us all. Its Sad we dont value those who are doing the duty for India.
RE:Why isnt this a headline news on Rediff and everywhere???
by Tamil natan on Jul 08, 2008 01:47 AM Permalink
Spot on. I am getting really pissed off with this stupid Congress morons in office. I agree with you, we donot have any value according to them.
RE:Why isnt this a headline news on Rediff and everywhere???
by Pradip Parekh on Jul 08, 2008 05:15 AM Permalink
your post must serve to raise the conciousness of the hindus. for those who know how commie press operates, the indian media is working in a very predictable commie lines of ignoring the most imortant issues for teh mainstream hindus. media kill with silence important issues for the mainstream while they will dwell at great length on things that mean little to them, thus trivilazing thier lives. comie media will elevate nincompoops like raul gandi but come down heavily on serious leaders like modi. this behavior is a sure sign that media are 3m controlled.
RE:Why isnt this a headline news on Rediff and everywhere???
by Parthasarathi Mridha on Jul 07, 2008 11:56 PM Permalink
Thats what is missing from Govt of India. One IFS officer died and no affirmative plan of action from Govt. So who else will be motivated to join administrative service with true sense to serve country. Only inefficient, corrupt people will stay there to make their fortune. Just imagine what Israel would have done it happened to them. We desperately need some change. In democracy, autocracy, military revolution or in whatever way if it come, what is needed for this country to survive and prosper is a good honest leader with some face value and take decision boldly and let history decide what he did is good or bad..
Now it is in hand of a lady who hardly have any intellect or clear vision but got all the political power and have a pull off follower never question her decision. We need leader like Dr. Kalam back in capital with more power. Leftists are curse for Indian politics, it was them who made it a demand they want President with political background. And they kept pleased with an useless lady.
I wish a big change in Indian politics lets abolish all 60 years of baggage we are carrying with independence, rethink and reengineer our political system may be time to reevaluate some ideas which was thrown into grave with Gandhi-Nehru model of building India. We shall overcome!
RE:Nostadamus
by JGN on Jul 07, 2008 07:51 PM Permalink
Ahmed Shaikh, astrology is a pack of lies. There won't be any religions - atleast the violent versions we see today - in anotehr 20 years or so.
Internet in the "last prophet" as we can get information on any subject at the click of a mouse. We cannot fool anybody now telling that such and such is a religion of peace, etc!
RE:Nostadamus
by Raj on Jul 07, 2008 07:55 PM Permalink
Internet actually exposed Islam to a degree that it can longer hide its evil origins, its subsequent existence. Islam in a open world will perish, it is in its last phase.
The flame glows brighter before it is extinguished
RE:Nostadamus
by Guest on Jul 07, 2008 09:44 PM Permalink
Mr.Raj, a hindu with a religion with no base cannot say so against islam...Islam is not wat u see in media. If u want to know the real islam please listen to Dr. Zakir NAik. he is a indian. And u said that islam is in its last phase,go and check the rate of people converting to islam. regards Fahim ( Afghanistan)
Hinduism has a recorded history of at least 3000 years, and despite several attempts over the centuries to destroy it, it is still going strong. But yes, it might be a religion without base.
What is the base of Islam? Quran and Hadiths. No need of seeing anything in the media. Study Quran and Hadiths. Do you understand what the Quran and Hadiths say? Do you understand Arabic? If no, try to get a translation in English or your mother tongue and understand what it says. Then you will yourself know if what Dr. Naik tells is the truth or not.
Islam means P E A C E...people has wrong intrepeation on age of ISLAM...Islam from the word beginning...it doesnot came into exist 1400 years ago...it is wrong knowledge.
RE:Nostadamus
by Fahim on Jul 10, 2008 09:35 PM Permalink
Mr.Satya i know Quran and Hadith very well. and i can understand what quran and hadith says. Give me a single irrational say from the quran or hadith. My islam teaches me to respect other religions. My islam teaches me to not worship anyone or anything else except the Almight Allah. My islam teaches me to respect human kind. My islam teaches me to be always peacefull. MY islam teaches me everything that i had to do in this world in a right way. I know what Dr.Zakir nayek says, he says of truth and all truth. regards
RE:Nostadamus
by Ahmed Shaikh on Jul 07, 2008 07:55 PM Permalink
Hindus have predicted the motions of the planets, teh end of the galaxies, speed of light, number of planets in solar system, the age of the earth well before the modern day science. Just type Rugveda in any search engine and you will come to know the truthfullness of what I am saying. How can astrology be pack of lies, it's pure mathematics! It's a shame that my forefathers have given up this gentle religion and have accepted this crap religion as Islam .. I consider myself as a Hindu and not a Muslim!!
RE:Nostadamus
by JGN on Jul 07, 2008 07:58 PM Permalink
Are you confusing "astrology" with "astronomy" ? Both these subjects are entirely different. And whatever achievements were there in ancient India, that did not percolate to the grass-roots level. That was the main drawback of our system.
RE:RE:Nostadamus
by Ahmed Shaikh on Jul 07, 2008 08:01 PM Permalink
Mr. JGN, I think you are result of confusion! The bottom line is that both astrology (and astronomy) are part of science based on mathematical expressions. Just begging 5 times a day is not going to improve your world knowledge!!
RE:Nostadamus
by Muhammad Yusuf on Jul 08, 2008 03:42 PM Permalink
Ahmed Shaikh, Stop pretending to be muslim YoUare a non mulsim/HINDU/REDIff you have created the muslim ID to make impression that a muslim want to leave Islam and want to convert hinduism becorz of Islam barbarism. You are playing games with muslims like your media does. (BBC/CNN/AAJTAK, STARNEWS ETC)
RE:Nostadamus
by Ahmed Shaikh on Jul 07, 2008 07:58 PM Permalink
How can I come back into Hinduism? I am desperate .... I can not live in Islam where killing is a way of life!!
RE:Nostadamus
by Shahnawaz Ali on Jul 07, 2008 10:21 PM Permalink
Hey Ahmed, You are not a muslim, by taking a muslim id one doesnt become Muslim. Practising Islam means you are par above than a non-believer.Atleast I dont see that conviction in you, so better change your id, and take a muslim name, when you understand the meaning of Islam. I will pray for mercy on you. ---Shahnawaz Ali Dubai
RE:RE:Nostadamus
by Fahim on Jul 07, 2008 09:50 PM Permalink
Ahmed, i m so sad for hearing this from you...you should have said so...let me know what hinduism has got and what islam has not.. these acts of killing doesnt mean that they are from muslims. havent u studied the sayings of Our beloved Prophet (PBUH) that a time will come that " a person will be killed, and the killer will not realize y he killed and the person who is killed wont realize why he is killed" this is the period we are going through...and he said we should go with our prayers and hope for Sabr... hope u understand.
RE:Nostadamus
by Parthasarathi Mridha on Jul 07, 2008 09:03 PM Permalink
Dear Ahmed,You need to go through any conversion process to follow the hindu philosophy. I think it’s the biggest mistake people do to mix the name HINDUISM with other religion institutes. The closest name should be ‘The Art of living’ . Few basic value systems which have been nurtured under the umbrella of Indian culture from the ancient days, which people spread today in name of Hinduism can be followed by anybody at any place with out changing anything.to give few bullet points on the value system that flows in Indian culture...and people call Hindu philosophy now a days…
• The purpose of life is to make our personality better than with what we were born. • Our better thoughts always overpowered by our illusion about the happiness ( we want to get more fun than joy), that’s call MAYA. All the living beings do have their own maya and the purpose of life is to clear this. If we keep on doing this we start getting more joy and get more content from life. • Third important point is this world was never perfect and will never be perfect, it’s a game of different atmna playing under different level of maya but through this exercise room of world only, we can make ourselves better. • We don’t go from wrong to right in this life but truth to better truth. pl. keep reading good books…and try to live value with your own principle. you will realize the gyan and will be better Mr. Ahmed…..
Defending religion is the best thing, u defend what u believe in...but don't defend terror, I am begging everybody, the time for hate mongering is gone....seriously!!! spread one religion humanity.....for "GOD" sake, we are humans...dogs even don't kill eact other !!!!
RE:To Sameer
by Ravi chandra on Jul 08, 2008 05:55 AM Permalink
Faisal, Im not against or you or any religion!but can you tell me what do these get from killing innocent people(people are dead from all religions). But these terr.rists take name of ISLAM and KORAN for every killing. It was so sad to see kids wounded and killed.
RE:To Sameer
by ANANDA MANDAL on Jul 08, 2008 11:11 AM Permalink
Ahmed Shaikh tu muslim nehi ho sakta, tu to muslim, hindu sabko dokha de ra hei. Girgit ki tara rang kiu badalta hei. nam change kar le.
RE:To Sameer
by JGN on Jul 07, 2008 07:40 PM Permalink
Mr. Faisal, those who are defending religions are defending the indefensible. They are just refusing to see the truth. Btw the atheists are the favourate whipping boys of the beleivers - irrespective of religion!
Pl download and read The Necessity of Atheism by Dr. D.M.Brooks freely available at Project Guternberg. Also visit the web of "Positive Atheism"
RE:To Sameer
by Rationalist on Jul 07, 2008 07:50 PM Permalink
By the way Hinduism does not outrightly ridicule Aethism.Aethism,Agnosism & Theism all are parts of Hinduism, a way of living.
RE:To Sameer
by JGN on Jul 07, 2008 07:54 PM Permalink
Hinduism does not ridicule atheism. Atheists existed even in Vedic periods and were known as "Charvakas or Chaturvedis". I am talking about the Rediff bloggers. I have endured their wrath for a long time!!!!!!!!!
RE:RE:To Sameer
by Rationalist on Jul 07, 2008 07:53 PM Permalink
Though I am an Aethist I do'nt find fun ridiculing theists or rather beleivers as I beleive it is ones own choice until not harming others. And God is like a arbitrary constant in process of human evolution and civilization. As the saying goes "man is the greatest creation of God & God is the greatest imagination of man".
RE:To Sameer
by Raj on Jul 07, 2008 07:51 PM Permalink
Show me something rubbish than Koran, then I will show you in tantamount the evil stupidity that prevails ubiquitously in Koran
The blast at Indian embassy is the handiwork of Pakistan. India must be more circumspect in its future dealings in Afghanistan. There is no point in sacrificing our men in the thankless job of nation building of Afghanistan.
I am a hindu and I have respect for all relegions even though I do not personally endorse of all the practices followed by other relegion but niether do I want others to agree with my relegios thoughts and nor do I want them to convert to Hinduism and I am happy with what they believe and do as long as it does not hurt anyone and I felt the same for my INDIAN MUSLIM BROTHERS....but when I see people defending terrorsists be it kashmir or Afganistan (where 4 Indians have died today) I feel sorry and start having second thoughts about them ....we are from the age when we had Khan chacha in every locality who was all wise and saintly....but now I think if he is chacha he cannot be KHAN if he is KHAN he cannot CHACHA....As Indians we have the same blood we have nothing in common with the AFGAN terrorists....they were just terrorists and how can an INDIAN of any relegious affiliation support such an act in the name of PROPHET etc.....can any one mulsim brother with his hand on the heart plainly condemn the act and say that who ever has attacked INDIAN embassy is a terrorist and my enemy and enmy of INDIA and Its people, and given a CHANCE I WILL FINISH HIM....where are ABDUL HAMEEDS and ASHFAQULLAHS....where are they.. who will be ready to cut that finger which points towards INDIA with equal fury be it PAKISTANI, TALIBANI OR CHINESE so on and so forth....
RE:MR. LAKUBO
by Mind Clear on Jul 07, 2008 07:24 PM Permalink
Organized religion is organized madness. Things will go on as usual. All these talk is time waste. The basic difference between Islam and other religions is that the 'State' does not legalize fundamentalism. For all other religions the State mandates, One-Law, Uniform Civil Code & Gender Equality. Christians, Jews, Parsis, Sikhs, Buddhists and Hindus have the same value system in the 21st century; All of them have modernized. They all believe in One-Law, Gender Equality, Uniform Civil Code, Freedom, Democracy and "True" secularism. What matters in life is the intensity of our work and inner fulfillment. Neither archaic religion, nor pseudo modernity can save humanity. People who will continue to succeed, are one's who will cultivate talent, knowledge, action in themselves and in others and seek equality in laws, principles and values. Rest is all waste of time and energy. Every developed country in the world is secular and excel in life, work, sports, performance and productivity. Islam is stuck in its own rut living and spreading misery. Those who have free oil and US support survive, rest are all into terrorism and blackmail for survival. There are two failed systems - Islam & Communism and are not compatible with Peace & Democracy, till now no Islamic nation can sustain a democracy. Islam is stuck in its own rut, not even knowing what life is about with hallucinatory notions of perfection & spirituality.
RE:MR. LAKUBO
by lakubo on Jul 07, 2008 08:24 PM Permalink
desh joshi, appreciate your open mindedness.
There are million's of abdul hameeds alive and kicking, if need comes they will rise and many have risen.
My q to you is how could you assume indians are not hurt by this bombing irrespective of faith? why do i have to justify myself to be more indian than others? are we not playing into hands of enemies by abusing, where has the sanity gone. why do we have jump at each others throat.
why do we end up abusing religions, religous books, religious figures. Why?
You do not have to justify about being Indian to anyone.
Most people vent their anger and frustration by cursing Muslims and accusing them of being unpatriotic etc. This is very wrong.
Muslims are just as good or bad as the rest of us.
But what can explain the relentless spate of terrorist violence? It is important to understand that. And I believe one can understand if one reads the source material of Islam.
Blaming Muslims is wrong and futile. Understanding and examining Islam is the key. Hope you understand.
RE:MR. LAKUBO
by lakubo on Jul 08, 2008 12:03 AM Permalink
Understanding islam is the key, very true, with right benchmarks, not with blinkered twisted history and biased current situation. The current situation is more of a fight against the western hegemony and imperialism against robbing of resources. West has already subjugated rest of the world, only muslims are standing against. India is caught in crossfire.
RE:MR. LAKUBO
by Raj on Jul 07, 2008 07:58 PM Permalink
I am a hindu and I have no respect for Islam and christianity.rest you casn fill in the blanks.
Killing, killing and more killing. Then they claim Islam is religion of peace. Kill innocent people and go to heaven. Some religion. If you want to know what definition of religion learn from Hindus. Tolerance love and peace.
RE:Do they know anything else
by JGN on Jul 07, 2008 07:25 PM Permalink
Mr. ann, all religions have out lived their utility. The religions were created by vested interests to keep the gullible masses under control.
Hinduism is not a religion in its narrow sense. It is a conglomeration of various beliefs and even non-belief. The only saving grace of hinduism is that the same is dynamitc enough to change with the time.
Beleive in the basic goodness of all humabeings and in the principles of neo-humanism.
Pl visit the web of "Actual Freedom - the third alternative" This is an alternative to organized religions. This will also enrich your knowledge about the reasons for some of our basic traits and how to over come them.
