India's top 10 corporate taxpayers paid total tax of 36,758 crore. Other than this the remaining indian population and small business firms are providing taxes too.how much tax the govt is collecting every year. Also the The govt should have responsibility to report the citizens how they are spending this tax money. I don't know how much our FM is invested in chettinadu and how many houses he owned.We indians have to think where these money is going. Is it going in the PM's and politicians swiss bank account or using for other investments in other countries like our PM is waisting money for the n-deal and trying to make more indians sick due to the radiations. The govt already tried lot of germs through chicken guinnia,bird flue but the indians are still surviving. So our govt wish to spoil the whole country with radiation technology.For eg. the usage of cell phones and micro wave machines are not good for health.Knowingly we are calling diseases through this eguipments. Education is to utilise your brain and not to spoil like the cultures we can see from top level city cultures like bar party and sharing boy friends, become aids patients and usage of drugs. Modern means doesn't show your body parts with mini midies, instead use your gained knowledge to hide your private parts from others eye sightes. People you should aware what is good for you ,the politicians and Our PM is not aware of the indian citizens they are running behind Swiss banks and businesses.Irrelavant topi
RE:india
by Ashok Kanta on Jul 17, 2008 03:07 PM Permalink
How many acoount do you have in Swiss Bank Prava? If you do not have then do not speculate & crib about others.Second point How much you understand about Nuke deal? If you do not then again do not speculate & crib about the deal. What I mean is there are lot many qualified and patriot people in the current Govt.and outside the Govt. who understand this deal much better than that of LK Advani or Prakash Karat and like. Let this country progress not retard and wait for the benefits of this deal. Don't talk or write no-sense. These very people who opposing for this nuke deal are the guys who once opposed the computerization of Bank & Offices--Do you remember that. If not ask you seniors who are not biased & sensible..
The publicly vitriolic outbursts against USA by Mr Prakash Karat and his ivory tower wife Brinda Karat... was amply proved last month when they found no other place in the world to go on a vacation other than the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA....these communists and especially leaders like Prakash and Brinda Karat are all ivory tower communists a fact which the election-rig-and-win communists of Bengal openly say. They are all blessed with a forked tongue and a pathological desire to work against the country for their foreign mentors in this case China. The heritage of stooges continues thanks to parties like Congress
Left thought they can decide how the govt functions and congress thought they can bend the left for every issue. For the N-deal, Congress sided with the dreaded US and left as usual, put their ideology ahead of India's national intrest. BJP put petty politics over national intrest. The seat was vaccant and SP put entering the ruling side over reservation with congress. SP benefitted the most from drama. Begining of the end of left in india. There wont be any phase in indian future where left will have so much influence (brake power) on the govt. Red Salute and people will show the results of what you guys did.
RE:Has the Left overplayed its hand?
by sibby mathews on Jul 08, 2008 05:29 PM Permalink
Mohammed
The left may secure fewer seats in the coming Lok Sabha elections (in Kerala and Bengal, they are very strongly incumbent in both state and central governments; good enough reason why their tally can only go down - if the Congress had been in a similar position, they would certainly have been wiped out in the coming elections but the fate the left will encounter will be far from being so stark). But that in no way would mean a permanent loss of constituency or loss of potential for it to grow.
In fact, the reality that is India (which is so wholly different from the rosy picture painted by much of the print and electronic media) would yield to idealogies such as that of the left a compelling reason and opportunity to grow multifold in the coming decades, especially when the benefits of literacy and the attendant awareness begins to reach larger sections of the disadvantaged classes that have been hitherto kept fooled and exploited by politicians of various hues.
RE:Has the Left overplayed its hand?
by Marvel on Jul 08, 2008 06:00 PM Permalink
Hey Sibby, You should be joking if you are meaning that Jokers (commies) possess these idealogies that you proclaim. These Karats, Yechuries, Rajas are nothing but Chinese Stooges. To hell with their lopsided ideologies. The rosy picture is that today there is shortage of labour owing to good effect of NREG. The rosy picture is that rural labour are getting Rs.200 per day instead of paltry Rs.30 they used to get 5 years ago. Rosy picture is that it is first time after 1995-2000 that salaries are in 5 & 6 digits. Rosy picture is that there are 250million Middle class and growing. I hope you take these into consideration in your rosy pictures. Left is an abstacle in development. Such ideologies are only slowing down tactics. That is the reason why we find ourselves in this mess that is the Indian polity.
RE:Has the Left overplayed its hand?
by sibby mathews on Jul 08, 2008 06:18 PM Permalink
Oh no, not so fast.
You mentioned the NREGS. I suppose you might have read a bit about it. Can you tell what exactly you read ? And what was the source ?
The NREGA is an enterprise of the human resource development ministry in association with state governments. It is almost entirely budgeted by the centre and was wrung out of the unwilling hands of the Congress administration by the left (as part of the CMP). As a result, the centre initially marked 200 of the poorer districts of India for coverage and then, under further and relentless pressure from the left, spread it across the entire country.
It would be too elaborate an exercise if I were to go into the full chronology and details of the developments behind this initiative, but if you have read extensively about it, pray tell me whether you did not notice that had it not been for the left, it might not have even been considered at any stage ?
However, as with every poverty eradication or rural development scheme in India, this schmeme too suffers from being affected by that most dominant of our national traits - namely corruption.
The efficacy of every people oriented initiative varies widely across states and varies in consonance with the extent of corruption in those states. Thus, while the NREGS is reported to be the most successful in Kerala (a state that has been named by Transparency Int. the least corrupt in India for several years), the story is entirely different in states like Bihar, U.P.etc
RE:Has the Left overplayed its hand?
by arun patwardhan on Jul 09, 2008 01:58 PM Permalink
What a twisted text! Dumb, NREG is taken by Central govt from REG scheme in MAHArashtra for last 30 years. The success in Kerala is so superficial that despite its claimed success you always se most of the construction labour ( most unprotected job is done by keralite migrants to other states (Including Gulf) Had it been been so successful why the need to migrate for most unprotected and unsettled job for keralite?
The Kerala looks better state not because of Left, but the gulf money ( and to some extent religious conversions) that made teh education and in turn employement affordable. (Thanks to Left for making people migrate for job and not allowing job creation within state)
If Left has that vision and ideology why they could not start the REG scheme in Kerala or WB instead on waiting for center to take it up?
Why WB is not successful like Kerala in NREG scheme?
RE:Has the Left overplayed its hand?
by sibby mathews on Jul 10, 2008 12:41 AM Permalink
Oh, the case of the 6 blind men describing an elephant.......(and going a step further and screeching out to the world that only the dumb will have different descriptions !!)
On your queries:
The NREGS is a massive scheme (unlike the REG scheme of Maharashtra state) and is intended to cover the entire BPL population. Thus, the resources needed are so great that only central allocation can make it happen.
Yes, Kerala workers (drawn from among the poorest) are engaged in construction jobs in the gulf. And they are not working there for nothing. They continue for years there and save enough to achieve a string of personal objectives, education of children, construction of a home (often a higher end bungalow when compared to what their counterparts in other Indian states who cannot make it to the gulf in such large numbers can ever manage !), marry off their children, set themselves up for old age.... So, that only reinforces the point that Kerala is the most accomplished among Indian states in terms of real poverty alleviation.
About other Indian states: Despite being 'blessed' by having been free of left rule, the poor in many of these states wallow in misery, slave on other's lands, avoid sending their children to school and instead make them work along with them to add to the family income, have never seen anything like a decent school or a public health centre in their lives (though these states have earmarked huge allocations for such objectives)
The author is right in many way but also he forgot that Man Mohan Singh has refused to show the IAEA deal to even his cabinet members. Left has asked for it but could not see it. Naturally they smelt rat. The mistake was made by the media who are saying continusly that the Left is against the 123 Deal to please China, but BJP is against it to please India. The media as usual is against the Left, so it has created this image. Also, some statements made by the left leaders to the media was amplified to show left is pro-Chinese, but in reality China is not at all against 123 Treaty but will be very pleased when India will sign its oqn death sentence.
Yes, Left made the mistake. Left should have said the same things as the BJP; in that case media could not misinterpret the Left.
RE:Unfair criticism ???
by Rajan Shah on Jul 08, 2008 10:24 AM Permalink
Hmm, but darling Bose, the left does not even consider China a threat to India. Look what that left wing tosspot, Beijing Bidwai wrote - "China has not so far treated India as a nuclear adversary:"
So as far as left wing tossers are concerned China is not even a threat.
RE:Unfair criticism ???
by Dipak Bose on Jul 08, 2008 12:31 PM Permalink
Bidwai is not really a left, but a pro-Chinese and against nuclear weapons. However, One need to remember that Natwar Singh was sent to South Africa in 1998 to declare that The Congress Party is against India having nuclear weapons. This is the real issue, not the electricity.
RE:Unfair criticism ???
by Rajan Shah on Jul 09, 2008 10:28 AM Permalink
Bidwai is not REALLY a lefty, interesting. Well here is something else the left wing tosser said (oh yeah he is a lefty all right, despite your attempts to disown him), he said - "Clearly, the God of neo-liberal market-fundamentalism has failed. Rather than dynamic growth, wealth and prosperity, it is producing recession, sleaze, crime and destitution."
Well if that does not sound like a lefty fundy little tosspot, I don't know what does.
The commoners (especially the lower middle classes), convinced by large sections of the media, think that the left in India is just a front for Chinese interests. Cant find fault with them taking such an assumption if one were to read only what they read in some of the 'mainstream' papers.
However, it has also been reported by these same papers and also by the electronic media that China, alongwith other members of the NSG, has agreed to give it's consent for the nuclear deal between India and the US without India signing the NPT (such consent is required by mandate from every member of the NSG) !!!
That is a tough one - China asking it's supposed lackey in India, the left to sabotage the deal, then deciding to become a party to that same deal itself !!!
RE:Unfair criticism ???
by deepak PV on Jul 08, 2008 11:48 PM Permalink
Mr Sibby Mathews,
This is the game played by china..china knew very well that their slaves (left) will sabotage the deal. They did not think that SP will support the deal once left pulled the rug.
RE:Unfair criticism ???
by Rajan Shah on Jul 09, 2008 10:55 AM Permalink
But off course the Chinese can "afford" to support India on this. They know there are enough traitors in India to try and sabotage the whole deal.
Now where is that riddle you were going to give me ?
RE:RE:Unfair criticism ???
by sibby mathews on Jul 10, 2008 12:53 AM Permalink
Traitors do not sabotage something that effectively leads to surrender of the sovereign rights of the nation.
If you are keen to spot traitors, it is not so difficult a job. They are all around us, present in varying degrees in every political party. And, the worst traitors are big time thieves, people who relentlessly impoverish the nation and the people with their corrupt ways. Only, the commoner has not recognised this fact - the way he ought to for his own well being.
RE:Unfair criticism ???
by Dipak Bose on Jul 17, 2008 11:35 AM Permalink
Certainly in the case of Nuclear Deal and also in the case of GATT treaty Man Mohan Singh has betrayed the nation. Nuclear Deal will neutralise India against nuclear armed Pakistan and China. GATT treaty has exposed Indian market for the foreign multinational companies but India could not get the reciprocal treatment from the developed countries as yet. It is difficult for the ordinary people to understand these. That is the reason the Mainstream newspapers has only two weapons: (1) against the Left: they are Chinese agent, although China is supporting the DEAL (2) against BJP: they are playing games only.
The Media is hiding the real issue from the people, as it did before 1962. The Media never said anything about the betrayal by Nehru to the nation.
RE:Unfair criticism ???
by Rajan Shah on Jul 10, 2008 10:58 AM Permalink
"Traitors do not sabotage something that effectively leads to surrender of the sovereign rights....."
Dunno about that one sonny, but here is a very common definition of traitor -
"a person who commits treason by betraying his or her country."
The author has written that left parties have changed their pro Soviet or pro China stand to a pro India one since 1960s onwards. I hope the author remembers the reason for division of communist party into CPI and CPI-M based upon their loyalty to either Soviet Union or China, respectively. Or later support by CPI to emergency during Indira regime because Soviets instructed them so. Even more recently the left parties used their clout in a port project in Andhra Pradesh. Govt of India had refused the work permits to 1000 China nationals, working for a Chinese company, citing India has enough qualified workforce. The left parties using their collective clout forced Govt of India (of course this UPA govt)to issue them the work permits. I am not a supporter of any party, but there is one party for which I have a pathological hatred (you may refer me to a good psychiatrist)and they are communists. I really support their philosophy and in fact was a member of AISA. But these guys are good for nothing wannabes concerned about China (Soviet is no there so they do not have other choice) more than that for India. You may say anything good about left parties and I will accept it (We have freedom expression in India!!!!), but please do not call them nationalists. We cannot group these clowns together with the likes of Bhagat Singh, Ashfaque Ulla Khan, Azad, Rajguru and others. It will tantamount to calling these freedom fighters as traitors.
RE:a simple contradiction
by Dipak Bose on Jul 08, 2008 09:25 AM Permalink
Among the freedom fighters you have named, there is none who is a Bengali, although 95 percent of the freedom fighters were Bengalis, who also have founded every political parties whether Congress or Jana Sangh or CPI.
RE:a simple contradiction
by parimal samir on Jul 08, 2008 09:26 PM Permalink
please do not go into regional sentiments. I have utmost respect for Bengal's contribution to Indian freedom struggle. I just wanted to make a point about nationalism of communists. Regarding foundation of congress, please do not forget that it was supposed to act as a safety valve for colonists so that emotional pressures developed due to the injustice meted out the masses would result in another 1857. Jansangh parent organizations Hindu Mahasabha and RSS, and CPI/CPIM supported the colonists during the Quit India Movement. If you want to cite Bengal's contribution to freedom struggle you should mention the names of Jatindranath Das, Subhas Chandra Bose, Bankim Chandra and the likes.
RE:a simple contradiction
by prakash mehta on Jul 08, 2008 12:30 PM Permalink
dont confuse Bengali with comminist. Here out discussion is about communist cartoons who destroyed a superb poentially economic superpower state that is Bengal
RE:a simple contradiction
by Dipak Bose on Jul 08, 2008 02:37 PM Permalink
Bengal was destroyed in 1947 when most vile anti-Bengalis Gandhi-Nehru took over India.
RE:a simple contradiction
by rajorshi on Jul 08, 2008 03:15 PM Permalink
That is the typical age old and lame Communist excuse....Communists are like pigeons with eyes shut when it comes to analyzing their acts...which, ofcourse, is a saga of human rights violation and distribution of poverty and conspiracy theories woven into the fabric of historical and dialectical materialism...
RE:a simple contradiction
by Shyam on Jul 08, 2008 09:47 AM Permalink
I fully endorse your views. These are fit for nothing guys, all the time think of China and Russia, never bother about India. In the States ruled by them, the fate of public is much worse and they do pretty nothing to improve it. Rather they expect the entire country to suffer like those States.
RE:a simple contradiction
by Dipak Bose on Jul 17, 2008 11:42 AM Permalink
Quit India movement was opposed by Ambedkar, Savarkar, RSS, Hindu Mahasava, and Gandhi himself, who disassociated himself from the movement only after 4-5 days. Thereafter Gandhi, Nehru, Patel were having regular meetings with the Vice Roy to design how to fight the Azad Hind Fauz. Ambedkar was a member of the Vice-Roy's war council. CPI made the mistake to trust the British Communist Party who advised CPI to oppose the Quit India Movement. But there was no such instructions from the Soviet Communist Party, because Azad Hind Sarkar was recognized by the Soviet Union and there was a consulate of Azad Hind Sarkar in Omsk city. During 1942 CPI was not allowed to have any contact with the Soviet Union, but allowed only to have contact with the British Communist Party, who mislead them.
The argument that the left could have exposed the dangers of 123 agreement and Hyde act is true. They missed the chance during the debate in the Parliament. BJP and LEFT were fooled by the Congress in the Parliament. The Congress is clever!! It is not too late for the BJP and LEFT to come out with arguments-specific and to the point- on all aspects that may be injurious to India. They could have asked for the copy of the 'draft agreement with IAEA. They failed in these aspects. They can come down on the congress again if they take real efforts. Let the people know of the hidden agenda of 'special interests'.
True to word, the left is letting their political aspirations guide them rather than the interest of the nation. BJP is now trying to use this oppurtunity to eat into the pie. BJP presently does not care anything about the nation and just want their hindutva leader as their PM.
The best LEft could do not is support the government to a much better purpose in the name of national interest.
Too tight could choke the nation. People are already feeling the choke.
RE:RE:Has the Left overplayed its hand?
by manish rogi on Jul 08, 2008 01:22 AM Permalink
hahaha... joke is that BJP's attempt to get left to withdraw support for UPA.... well, in politics is there are no untouchables!!
