RE:THESE ARE THE FACTS
by huzefa hakimi on Jul 05, 2008 09:46 PM Permalink
topic SP supporting govt and u r bashing Islam (most of stats are false), wow! check it again as get the statistics rite from the Sabha's u r attending or they also have got it all wrong!
When the counties that constructed and operated the nuclear plant made historical nuclear disaster like Chernobyl and Three mile island.
How this country is going to operate the nuclear plant safely. I believe lot of communal reservations are there in nuclear power plant recruitment also.
RE:will india operate it safely
by huzefa hakimi on Jul 05, 2008 10:14 PM Permalink
India has been operating Nuclear for past 35 years. The problem is we not being under agreement with NSG we can not fuel for these reactors even. In India we do not have reserves to sustain production of this energy. Thereby moving forward this is contemplated as one of alternatives
Before the deal gets one the clauses is country should meet the safety standards. So that should be taken care of otherwise we will not get supply for Nuclear reactor if our safety standards do not meet
after Chernobyl all these safety standards were formed and countries operating nuclear reactors have to meet safety standard, which is India is moving towards. And on that line IAEA had inspected the current reactors and had given safety standards approval a year back when they were in India.
RE:RE:Japan is building 1000 MW od solar plant
by Mohammed basheer on Jul 05, 2008 08:36 PM Permalink
We dont need to scrap N-deal to build solar energy plants. Suzlon is already doing it in India and reliance is building the largest factory for solar cell manufacturing. It takes time and whats the problem in using the wasted capacity of our power plants with the uranium from N-deal.
RE:RE:RE:Japan is building 1000 MW od solar plant
by Mohammed basheer on Jul 05, 2008 08:36 PM Permalink
We dont need to scrap N-deal to build solar energy plants. Suzlon is already doing it in India and reliance is building the largest factory for solar cell manufacturing. It takes time and whats the problem in using the wasted capacity of our power plants with the uranium from N-deal.
RE:Japan is building 1000 MW od solar plant
by Zeng on Jul 05, 2008 08:42 PM Permalink
If you dont know anything about energy or physics, keep quite. The biggest solar power plant till 2007 has a capacity of 12 MW!
news.cnet.com/2300-11395_3-6112320-1.html
Solar and win power in no way can contribute more than 2%-3% of total needs. They ar ethe best source, but not practical for large scale production. Dont assume yourself a scientist, and keep your d1rty political views from serious topics.
RE:Japan is building 1000 MW od solar plant
by huzefa hakimi on Jul 05, 2008 09:53 PM Permalink
Yes, the wind flow in is not sufficient to produce viable energy out of it. Solar is pretty expensive to build. UK recently announced to meet their energy needs and as alternative to fossil fuels they are planning to build 40 Nuclear Power Reactors. USA also passed bill to start building new reactors.
may be yesterday the Surya and Vayu Devta's would have given darshan so he is all excited.
RE:Japan is building 1000 MW od solar plant
by Sameer on Jul 05, 2008 10:13 PM Permalink
India at present produces 10000 MW from wind eenrgy and only 3500 MW from nuclear.
I dont need to say whether it works or not. Action speaks for itself.
RE:RE:Japan is building 1000 MW od solar plant
by Loan Shark on Jul 05, 2008 11:16 PM Permalink
India has installed wind capacity of 8000 MW ... that's installed capacity not actual production. actual production due to low wind or no wind on certain days or parts of days can reduce the actual production to 25% of installed capacity.
RE:Japan is building 1000 MW od solar plant
by Mohammed basheer on Jul 05, 2008 08:35 PM Permalink
We dont need to scrap N-deal to build solar energy plants. Suzlon is already doing it in India and reliance is building the largest factory for solar cell manufacturing. It takes time and whats the problem in using the wasted capacity of our power plants with the uranium from N-deal.
RE:Important Question
by Sameer on Jul 05, 2008 08:32 PM Permalink
because nuclear energy does not make sense when there are so many other sources of alternative energy
RE:Important Question
by fun guy on Jul 05, 2008 08:38 PM Permalink
When the counties that constructed and operated the nuclear plant made historical neuclear disaster like Chernobyl and Three mile island.
How this country is going to operate the neuclear plant safely. I beleve lot of commuanl reservations are there in nuclear power plant recruitment also.
RE:RE:Important Question
by huzefa hakimi on Jul 05, 2008 10:05 PM Permalink
India has been operating Nuclear for past 35 years. The problem is we not being under agreement with NSG we can not fuel for these reactors even. In India we do not have reserves to sustain production of this energy. Thereby moving forward this is contemplated as one of alternatives
RE:Important Question
by huzefa hakimi on Jul 05, 2008 10:08 PM Permalink
Also getting clearance from IAEA will mean IAEA will be inspectin nuclear plants and make sure they are safe to operate which is one of the requirements to be connected to NSG.
RE:RE:Important Question
by huzefa hakimi on Jul 05, 2008 10:02 PM Permalink
May u r missing couple of facts here. USA in 2006 passed bill to start building more reactors in USA.
RE:Important Question
by huzefa hakimi on Jul 05, 2008 10:28 PM Permalink
well the thing is will nuclear treaty be beneficial for India. If it is than India will be benfitted as this treaty is not with US but complete NSG group which cover UK, France, Germany, Japan, Russia, China, Australia and New Zealand. So even their talk is cheap and if get through NSG, I believe India will be profited.
IF things were of this sort why will Brajesh Mishra (national security under NDA govt) and APJ Kalam say that this deal is good for India?
RE:RE:Important Question
by Loan Shark on Jul 05, 2008 11:21 PM Permalink
McCain has put nuclear energy on his agenda ... the thing is that changing economic factors change decisions ... now that oil is expensive, nuclear power is being looked upon as an option .. the same thing was being touted as risky a decade earlier ... now the low cost of nuclear power versus high cost of oil is helping this change in decision making.
RE:Important Question
by huzefa hakimi on Jul 05, 2008 10:01 PM Permalink
May u r missing couple of facts here. UK recently they will be building 40 new nuclear reactors in UK, USA in 2006 passed bill to start building more reactors in USA.
Biofuels is not good alternatively - environment wise (Will lead to large deforestration to grow crop) and biofuels is one of the reason why there is shortage of crop produce all over world as large % of crop is directed to biofuels; hydrogen cells are pretty expensive and at present is not viable economically;
Though as looking into future India is part of 6 countries consortium which is researching on ways to tame fusion reaction (fusing Hydrogen to form Helium and so on). They test reactor for same is under construction in France.
At present Nuclear is temprorary solution to fulfill our needs. And one things India is pretty deficient in energy production and if we do not increase sources of production in next upcoming years it will be difficult to sustain the infrastructure and improve it.
RE:Important Question
by Zeng on Jul 05, 2008 08:46 PM Permalink
There is no silver bullet for energy crisis. Some of the proposed solutions are short term and some are long term. The concerns are both energy security and global warming. Biofules are meant for cleaner exhaust - for vehilces -which helps in fighting global warming.
Even for producing hydrogen, there needs to be electricity. You need to learn more before cribbing and even worse, accusing!
Govt will be relieved by using such nasty politics. But India will relieved only when opportunist politicians like Mulayam Singh, Lallu, Prakash Karat, DavaGowda, Mayawathi, Karunanidhi, Jayalalitha, Sarad Pawar, etc are defeated. But as long as India is having lot of uneducated voters, they are going to win & nullify all our growth.
There goes the middle class support for nuclear deal. So far middle class was ambivalent but with Mulayam back, middle class has started asking the relevance of the deal.
Our politicians need two things corruptions and filling their pockets. The don’t care what is the future of India if they do treaty with USA on nuclear deal? If USA does not even have enough storage of uranium then what kind of nuclear deal is this? I can understand if you tie up with that country that had enough uranium. Then it makes sense. USA is never in favour of India!!! About the gas pipeline through Pakistan.. it would be the worst thinking for future. You think opponent country can let it be smooth if something wrong happens in future?
RE:Nuclear deal and India's future?
by Hate Who divides on Jul 05, 2008 08:30 PM Permalink
logo..............do you know why NSG has formed just to curb Indian nuclear programme or weaponisation ................... if we make an effective foreign policy with Russia or canada or australia we can ensure fuel supply so go and clear the air around you thenn write comment
RE:Nuclear deal and India's future?
by Sanjiv Yadav on Jul 05, 2008 09:43 PM Permalink
Logo ... I think you got the answer of your message!! Thanks to "Hate who divides"
I agrees with direct pipeline if possible and feasible! Cheers!
RE:Nuclear deal and India's future?
by Hate Who divides on Jul 05, 2008 08:19 PM Permalink
Iran India pipeline make some sense .................But will be too costly
RE:Nuclear deal and India's future?
by Vinay Gupta on Jul 05, 2008 08:19 PM Permalink
I agree with u . With dependency on Urnium for energy requirement we shall be blackmailed by US and its allies inthe similar way as OPEC is blackmailing.
So how this deal will make us less prone to blackmailing
I will be the saddest person if SP gets the title of saving the govt in national interest. There is no doubt that N-deal is in national interest. I am disillusioned by the stand taken by the BJP on the N-deal giving priority to politics over N-deal. This created a vacuum for pseudo nationalist parties like SP to hog the limelight and get into history. SP does know what national interest means. I am sure Vajpayee would have taken a different stand on N-deal and would not have opposed the N-deal but would have opposed the other 10,000 things that congress has done.
RE:Sad about SP getting into history for working in National interest
by vinod hegde on Jul 05, 2008 08:40 PM Permalink
Very Very True. BJP has lost a golden opportunity to support the deal. They are looking like fools after SP has stolen the lime light on an issue for which actually foundation was laid during Mr. Vajapayee rule.
