do you remember what Israel did under such circumstances......they send send their commondos to Lisben in 1981 to free the hostages and Uganda during Idi Ameen's period to free the hostages.....National Interest is Most Important...and BJP freed terrorists like Zargar and Maulana Masood Azar...freed terrorists for Mufti's younger daughter (younger than Mehbooba Mufti)BJP supported this act when they were supporting V.P. Singh's government from outside..... wow what a nationalist party.....great and they are indirectly supporting Student Islamic Movement of India and Maoists movements by their slogans, by thier activities (Gujarat, Indore and many more).... what a nationalist party.....just hiding their incapabilities for Civilian Nuclear Treaty with USA during their government's period by not supporting congress. Congress broght far better deal than what BJP was trying to get......what a nationalist party.....congress lost two of their leaders and many more in terrorists attack and BJP freed the terrorists .....what a nationalist party....
RE:why one should vote BJP
by j j on Jul 06, 2008 05:59 PM Permalink
Israel have fun shooting down Muslim terrorist(what we cannot do with Afzal guru. ha ha ha. What bar cangres and communist govt to finish the court verdict). IdiAmeen is perfect for the human right protector. What a jerk reasoning to tarnish the image of BJP.
Jansangh declared Dr. Shamaprasad Mukherjee a "Shaheed" (considering he was killed by some fanatic during the train journey) but after detailed enquiry he died by falling from the train. So sad Jansangh and BJP. Notlike congress there is a list of shaheeds.
advani is talking of cong sp as an unholy alliance is the biggest joke. perhaps advani who is 80 years old is loosing his memory and perhaps slipping into senility and amnesia. remember BJP aiadmk and ms jayalalitha pulled out in 13 days . when george fernandes and pramod mahajan went to beg for her support , she kept them waiting for hours and stated , " i dont have time for any tom , george and mahajan" the bjp then went to aiadmk's archenemy and tied up with DMK. in the next election the bjp went back to aiadmk. in karnataka even after kumaraswamy refused to share power with bjp , as per their pact , the bjp sough to ally with the infamous gowdas. wasnt the bjp's alliance with the NC in j&k an unholy alliance ?? are they together now. the bjp and ncp share power in a state and are in the opposite camps in the centre. is this a holy alliance. the biggest joke is the coming together of advani and mayawati. its the unholiest alliance after all the venom they spewed on each other over the years. advani is a rank opportunist and will not hesitate to wed mayawati to become a pm. advani did not quit or agree to face a motion of confidence when the NDA/ BJP govt failed in many fronts. be it the intelligence failure in kargil , or the attack on parliament, or when jaswant singh escorted dreaded terrorists to freedom. but at the drop of a hat and even for minor issues he demands manmohan to step down , or face a no confidence motion.
RE:Advani - on unholy alliances a joke !!!!!!!
by shailendra lande on Jul 06, 2008 03:08 PM Permalink
true.....very true. :). BJP declared a list of 6 candidates for election 2009. Premature ejaculation by BJP...
RE:Advani - on unholy alliances a joke !!!!!!!
by j j on Jul 06, 2008 06:02 PM Permalink
Soniaji finally got a chance to say 'THANK YOU' to Mulayam for the back stab. That makes cangress and SP alliance most holy !!!
BJP leader M Venkaiah Naidu hit out at the ruling combine, saying "one unholy alliance has come to an end and preparations are afoot for another one". what a ridiculous statement it is? he has no shame in sharing platform with deve gowda in karnataka, no shame in sharing with karunadhi and now same karunanidhi with congress and who knows tomorrow the same one may be with venkaiah naidu again. and the same bjp & advani now talk about unholy alliances? it was vajpayee who is famous for forging unholy alliances anyway and advani is going to repeat the same thing if bjp wins 180 seats in forth coming elections. the bjp lost all its credibility when it stopped support the US nuclear deal for petty party interests. this example shows that bjp is not a nationalistic party at all, for it is simply a small regionally, electoral interested party which is concerned only about its electoral survival rather than the broader national interest. venkaiah naidu and advani now targetting congress and sp over the nuclear deal do not carry any conviction or credibility. better they shut their mouths shut as they always looked to embarass the federal govt. when it was trying to do a thing which is in the very national interest.
If the tables were turned, and the shoes were on the other foot, I'm sure the noble, goody-two-shoes Kaangress wouldn't have even given a moment's thought to calling for a confidence motion vote. Yeah right!
RE:Cong vents ire on BJP
by Pradip Parekh on Jul 06, 2008 03:53 AM Permalink
commies are likely to be very dramatic because they feel very humilitated: they might withdraw support while mmsingh is is japan. advani may be trying to save pmsingh a humiliation.
There is no instability in Government and politics in India, so says Manish Tiwary, the Congress spokesman. Nothing to argue there when the events speak louder than words, and people will make their own mind about this issue. However, it amazes me that it has been the Congress party that over the last 60 years opposed deals with the U.S. and wanted to maintain a distance, only to see it realise that it cannot live in isolation in this age of globalization.
Mr. Adavani have become impatient now. His PM dream is really killing him. He is 84 now and how long he will have to wait to be PM ? Whenever he hopes that UPA will fall , everytime they come out of the danger zone. For 4 years Adavani was telling left to withdraw the support but the moment left has decided to go against UPA , SP has extended their support to UPA now. Advani with the help of Jaswant had made plan to topple UPA and make any Tom , Dick Harry from UNPA the PM of India but unfortunately this plan also failed. He has to learn from congress the survival trick.
RE:All the pilitical parties have become enemy of Adavani
by j j on Jul 06, 2008 09:05 AM Permalink
What a perfect nonsense. The opposition never tried to topple the govt. Only its on partner CPM is rattling all these years.
RE:All the pilitical parties have become enemy of Adavani
by ravi kumar on Jul 06, 2008 09:33 AM Permalink
i wish you would be informed before u use the word nonsense. pls read the papers and you will hear from jaswant singh's own admission to the media that in 2007 the bjp appealed to the UNPA , that they will support any of their leaders to become PM , in order to get their support for electing the BJP's nominee as president.
the BJP is a shameless party . they care 2 hoots for national stability , and are willing to topple a govt for any trivial issue.
RE:All the pilitical parties have become enemy of Adavani
by j j on Jul 06, 2008 11:26 AM Permalink
Ravi Kumar: No need to be a genius to understand what is happening around. Cangress's spin masters words always true for followers not to common man. Can SP comes with solid proof before come in public with their bluffing
RE:All the pilitical parties have become enemy of Adavani
by ravi kumar on Jul 06, 2008 01:24 PM Permalink
read today's papers or watch the news on any news channel of your choice.what more proof do you need !!!!!!!!!!!
Next election: Muslim will give vote to BJP for opposing Nuclear Deal. I dont know why BJP is thinking like uneducated Muslim Mullah... and sticking to its words to harm Nuclear deal. I didn't expect from BJP to behave in such a ir-responsible way.. I had a thinking by heart always BJP thinking about HINDU & HINDUSTAN.. Now I am feeling very sad.
RE:BJP - will come in Power
by lokanath on Jul 05, 2008 07:07 PM Permalink
Bos after bjp suppotring the neculear deal... You want our india to be slave to US... another before Indipendence....
RE:BJP - will come in Power
by Jitendra Kumar on Jul 05, 2008 07:22 PM Permalink
The other countries including China, Russia who have signed the treaty have become slave to USA. Great observation.
RE:BJP - will come in Power
by dhaval vyas on Jul 06, 2008 05:18 AM Permalink
The deal with china is different then the deal with india. Go open your eye first.
RE:BJP - will come in Power
by Mohammed basheer on Jul 05, 2008 08:24 PM Permalink
Vajpayee is 100 times better leader than Advani. Vajpayee always puts National interest over politics and power. He will better sit in opposition and be happy with india's progress rather than getting to power by harming India. Dont know how many slaves US has according to communist terminology. According to them all rich countries like Japan, Germany, UK, australia are slaves of US. Only cuba and venezuela is not slaves. Russia and China can remain as not slaves even with a nuclear deal. No country in the world is a slave of US except Irag and to a lesser extent Afghan. They became slaves not by signing a nuclear deal, but paying the price for their foolish rulers who the communist regard as heros for killing people in the name of opposing US.
RE:BJP - will come in Power
by All Right on Jul 05, 2008 07:27 PM Permalink
Yes. The US keeps mum as Chinese slaves blatantly violates human rights in Tibet.
RE:BJP - will come in Power
by Jitendra Kumar on Jul 05, 2008 07:40 PM Permalink
China has benn voilating human rights right from begining.What is relation of nuclear deal with Tibet?
RE:Cong and left created smoke screen
by j j on Jul 06, 2008 03:39 AM Permalink
All Right: Is Opposition has any right in a democracy. Other wise you saw only Pakistani democracy !
Nuclear deal: Some people including you say BJP has no opinion on the nuke deal. Is BJP, the number 1 political party ever consulted in this deal ? Is this a deal drafted in secret by Man Mohan and US team ? So on what terms BJP has to support such a deal ? If BJP put India as a nuclear nation they have their own plans and path for a better deal to any world nation. Remember this cangress and communist wept on public for putting India on nuke club. Telling a lie million time don't make it a truth . What you saying about UN and Vajpayee is irrelevant. UN is not world court or US is not world police. I am telling again this nuke deal and other political mess is a creation of UPA to get away from their responsibility. If the opposition feels that Govt is a minority they have to right to ask for confidence motion.
RE:Cong and left created smoke screen
by ravi kumar on Jul 06, 2008 09:39 AM Permalink
pls do not forget that it was the BJP and especially jaswant singh as foreign minister in nda , who initiated the nuclear deal with the US govt.
the deal is worth 10's of thousands of crores and bjp leaders would have got a slice of this as commissions and kickbacks.
they are now opposing this deal because they do not get this slush now.
thats why they are opposing the deal on flimsy ground.
advani can never hope to gain the stature of vajpayee who was a great nationalist and statesman.
on the other hand every word advani utters reduces his stature.
RE:Cong and left created smoke screen
by All Right on Jul 07, 2008 10:53 AM Permalink
Hey Ravi:
BJP initiated a nuclear deal with the US govt..
Congress is currently in talks...
Deal is worth 10's of thousands of crores - BJP leaders would have got a slice..
Congress leaders ARE getting the slice already..
That's why Congress leaders are ADAMANT to go ahead even at the risk of a fallen govt.. :-)
That's why they are taking even Mulayam's support (I'm sure Sonia will remember Mulayam.. :-) to see the deal through - when their pet friends Commies saw through this 10's of thousands of crores scam... :-)
Sonia can perhaps hope to gain the stature of Advani... she occasionally comes close to competing.. :-)
RE:Cong and left created smoke screen
by j j on Jul 06, 2008 11:31 AM Permalink
What is the source for this kind of allegation. Other than third rate street talk what is the validity of these claims.
NDA or BJP never convinced of the present form of Nuke deal. There is non transparency in the present form of the deal. Opposition has the right to object the deal if they are not convinced on there own. Many people in these board speaking like BJP or NDA did a crime by not accepting the deal in the present form. What a pity.
RE:Cong and left created smoke screen
by All Right on Jul 05, 2008 07:40 PM Permalink
What is legitimacy of BJP's demand?
Vajpayee in Gen Assembly of the UN declared that India no longer needed to test our nuclear weapons. Through 5 tests conducted by the Vajpayee we created a data base so that we need physically test but test through computer simulation which all nuclear powers are doing. The fact is in the last decade no country exploded a nuclear device.
Now the BJP objects to the deal since it says that we cannot explode a nuclear device
RE:Cong and left created smoke screen
by All Right on Jul 05, 2008 07:46 PM Permalink
What so legitimate about BJP's demand. They object to the deal on the specious argument that it does not permit us to test our nuclear weapons.
The operating word is in the event of nuclear testing. Even here the agreement provides an exception - the right to test if China or Pakistan tests.
No one in the nuclear community believes any more for the need to physically test. They now test through computer simulation using past test data.
This is the reason why Vajpayee government shrewdly went for a series of explosions (5 to be precise) - to generate such a data base.
Having done that Vajpayee gave an assurance to the world through his address to the General Assembly of the UN that India no longer needs to explode any nuclear devise.
So if we are take BJP's present position seriousily, is Vajpayee and BJP at in 2000 lying to the world?
RE:Cong and left created smoke screen
by desikan r on Jul 05, 2008 11:58 PM Permalink
Any reason why we are so opposed to NPT and CTBT? Bcoz we do not want anyone to impose a ban on testing on us. We have a self imposed moratorium. And we know what it means. We and only we will decide if we need to conduct a nuke test or not. And what database are you talking about? The US has conducted hundreds of nuclear tests over 40-50 years. Can we even remotely compare our database to theirs? Or would they part with that data if we dont conduct any test ourselves? We wouldnt know if our computer simulations are actual , ideal probable, possible or unreal. Whom do we consult then? The US? They havent been even remotely fothcoming over the last six decades. Its not Cong or BJP, UPA or NDA. There shall be a Nuke deal and in the near future. But why the hurry and the secrecy? Isnt it something of national importance that everyone be taken into confidence? Can any compromise on any issue be struck with the US without the approval of the Parliament or the people?
RE:Brainless Jokers Party
by Biman Basu on Jul 05, 2008 05:54 PM Permalink
Look ! You are insulting a party that was originally founded by Dr Shyama Prasad Mukherjee having given his life due ti NEHRU BRUTALITY!THE PARTY HAVING BEEN ILLEGALLY BANNED THE NAME IS BJP now!Or else it is JANSANGH! All foreign boot lickers dont want to remain hindu WHY THEN GET ARRACHED TO POWER CENTRE? G E T O U T !
RE:Brainless Jokers Party
by shailendra lande on Jul 06, 2008 03:15 PM Permalink
Jansangh declared Dr. Shamaprasad Mukherjee a "Shaheed" (considering he was killed by some fanatic during the train journey) but after detailed enquiry he died by falling from the train. So sad Jansangh and BJP. Notlike congress there is a list of shaheeds.
